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[Oracle]

I get the impression Bagis doesn't like Eroglu. Or, is it another ploy to force their "Blackmailed Solution" upon us?




Turkey's chief negotiator for European Union talks has urged Turkish and Greek Cypriot leaders to reach a settlement by April this year.

"There are leaders on the both sides who are eager for a solution, which had yet to come. I am hoping that they will come up with a settlement by April because that is when Turkish Cypriot President Mehmet Ali Talat's term ends. And it seems unlikely that he can get re-elected," Egemen Bagis told a seminar in Tallinn.

Bagis rejected the Cyprus issue as "a pre-condition" for Turkey's membership in the EU, saying that the EU should not have allowed the Greek Cypriot administration into the Union before it had solved its border disputes.

Bagis also criticized the Greek Cypriot administration for blocking the opening of further policy chapters in Turkey's accession talks.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=54670

[cymart]

Eroglu and Denktash senior have similar mindsets,even though their profiles appear to differ....There are people on the Turkish political scene who really want change on many issues,not just Cyprus and old 'dinosaurs' like those two are just an impediment.
I also believe not only Christophias and Talat,but also Greece,Turkey and Britain could sort out at least the final outlines of a deal on the Cyprus issue by April if they all put their minds to it,but some of the parties are dragging their feet.Christophias spent a week in intensive talks with the DIKO until only a few days ago,rather than on the Cyprus issue,while Papandreou admittedly,is in very serious trouble with the E.U. over his economy right now so perhaps he can be excused?But I just hope the chance for a solution does not slip through their fingers here,just like on previous occasions and they all realise when its too late!

[YFred]

Eroglu and Denktash senior have similar mindsets,even though their profiles appear to differ....There are people on the Turkish political scene who really want change on many issues,not just Cyprus and old 'dinosaurs' like those two are just an impediment.
I also believe not only Christophias and Talat,but also Greece,Turkey and Britain could sort out at least the final outlines of a deal on the Cyprus issue by April if they all put their minds to it,but some of the parties are dragging their feet.Christophias spent a week in intensive talks with the DIKO until only a few days ago,rather than on the Cyprus issue,while Papandreou admittedly,is in very serious trouble with the E.U. over his economy right now so perhaps he can be excused?But I just hope the chance for a solution does not slip through their fingers here,just like on previous occasions and they all realise when its too late!

I fear the worst, it has been lost in the last 14 months.

[paliometoxo]

we better do as they say if we dont accept partition by the time talat is gone then we will get another tc leader who still wants partition :S

[Malapapa]

we better do as they say if we dont accept partition by the time talat is gone then we will get another tc leader who still wants partition :S

We can't say they didn't warn us about the realities we face.

[B25]

I don't why everyone keeps bleating on about a solution, a solution, when Turkey insists or guarantor rights and the RoC, the EU and the rest of the international community say otherwise.

Cymart, do you accept to give these guarantor rights to Turkey, given her history?? Seriously, now.

All this talk about April this and that, it is just a load of Bull, it is pressure ton us to force something through. it is a pseudo timeframe placed upon us with the threat of Eroglu.

Well, heres my answer to Eroglu and the rest of the TCs who are threatening us with him, F Him. Makes no difference to us, as has been stated before by myself and many others, mickey mouse or donald duck is the same rubbish, Turkey is calling the shots here and Eroglu will do as he is told. Turkey will get him in and turkey can get him out. For as long as Turkey is paying their way their arse belongs to Turkey.

Therefore, please cut the crap about Eroglu, your threats are empty and in all honesty, YOU stand to loose the most.

Have a nice life.

[Gasman]

Or, is it another ploy to force their "Blackmailed Solution" upon us?

How is any side going to 'force' a solution upon the other side?

Doesn't any 'solution' reached (if at all) then have to go to a referendum on both sides too?

[Malapapa]

Or, is it another ploy to force their "Blackmailed Solution" upon us?

How is any side going to 'force' a solution upon the other side?

Doesn't any 'solution' reached (if at all) then have to go to a referendum on both sides too?

Yes, but non Cypriot citizens will be entitled to vote on a solution in the north so the whole thing is a sham anyway.

[YFred]

Or, is it another ploy to force their "Blackmailed Solution" upon us?

How is any side going to 'force' a solution upon the other side?

Doesn't any 'solution' reached (if at all) then have to go to a referendum on both sides too?

Yes, but non Cypriot citizens will be entitled to vote on a solution in the north so the whole thing is a sham anyway.

Reality check. Non-citizens by who's rules? stop kidding yourselves and hope that the vote is a yes.

[Gasman]

Right Malapapa. So these referendums. If they should take place of course.

Are you saying that the votes cast will be counted all together as a whole? And that if enough people vote yes both N and S it counts as a yes?

Or do BOTH SIDES have to have a majority yes (or no) vote?

Just your mention of who will be entitled to vote that has me puzzled. Wondering why you are bothered about who can vote in the TRNC.

I haven't thought much about the referendums at all. I have assumed they won't reach agreement anyway as they seem to have irreconcilable differences already. The troops, guarantors, the flag, and waddever!