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Re: TRNC’S FOREIGN TRADE

Postby Kikapu » Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:46 pm

halil wrote:Total TRNC imports last year were 1 billion 241 million dollars, and exports 71 million 73 thousand dollars, according to the figures released by the Trade Department.


TCs often praise Turkey for everything, even to their existence, and yet, Turkey imports approximately ONLY $37 million dollars worth of goods. The question I have is, why isn't the 70+ million Turks not buying more from the "trnc" to help them get on their own two feet so not to depend on the money directly given to them by Turkey to help with their so called economy. The average Turks imports a little over 50 cents (half a dollar) worth of products from the north. So what are the problem,

a) are the products from the north too expensive for the Turks

b) the Turks do not want products from the "trnc"

c) the products from the north does not appeal to the Turks

d) if (c) is correct, then why would it appeal to any other country if their own "motherland" is not supporting them.?

e) the north has not too much to offer to the Turks or anyone else for that matter

f) if the north does not have too much to offer, then where is the problem of being "isolated" when they have 70+ million market in Turkey who can buy more, if the north had more to sell.

I find it very interesting, that Turkey, who wants everything for the north from the international community as far as lifting the embargoes are not prepared to buy all there is to buy from the north to support their economy, rather than giving them hard cash instead. On the other hand, Turkey sells almost everything to the "trnc", so that all the hard cash they give to the north with one hand, they take it back with the other, and for this, the north believes that Turkey is looking after their best interests.

The hard cash that Turkey gives the north with one hand and takes it back with the other by selling them their goods reminds me of a joke of what the Jewish hooker said, "You have it, you sell it, you still have it. Oh, what a business".! :lol:
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Re: TRNC’S FOREIGN TRADE

Postby YFred » Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:41 pm

Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:Total TRNC imports last year were 1 billion 241 million dollars, and exports 71 million 73 thousand dollars, according to the figures released by the Trade Department.


TCs often praise Turkey for everything, even to their existence, and yet, Turkey imports approximately ONLY $37 million dollars worth of goods. The question I have is, why isn't the 70+ million Turks not buying more from the "trnc" to help them get on their own two feet so not to depend on the money directly given to them by Turkey to help with their so called economy. The average Turks imports a little over 50 cents (half a dollar) worth of products from the north. So what are the problem,

a) are the products from the north too expensive for the Turks

b) the Turks do not want products from the "trnc"

c) the products from the north does not appeal to the Turks

d) if (c) is correct, then why would it appeal to any other country if their own "motherland" is not supporting them.?

e) the north has not too much to offer to the Turks or anyone else for that matter

f) if the north does not have too much to offer, then where is the problem of being "isolated" when they have 70+ million market in Turkey who can buy more, if the north had more to sell.

I find it very interesting, that Turkey, who wants everything for the north from the international community as far as lifting the embargoes are not prepared to buy all there is to buy from the north to support their economy, rather than giving them hard cash instead. On the other hand, Turkey sells almost everything to the "trnc", so that all the hard cash they give to the north with one hand, they take it back with the other, and for this, the north believes that Turkey is looking after their best interests.

The hard cash that Turkey gives the north with one hand and takes it back with the other by selling them their goods reminds me of a joke of what the Jewish hooker said, "You have it, you sell it, you still have it. Oh, what a business".! :lol:

How many times do I have to tell you TRNC cannot compete with Turkey on any front. Turkey can produce cheaper and better quality than TRNC. That is one of the reasons why the EU is a little woried about letting Turkey into EU. Don't get me wrong, that is not necessarily a good thing. It means that the workers are not getting a fair deal and their health and safety leaves a lot to be desired, but you are barking up the wrong tree sunshine. The real problem is economic suffocation by the roc and will be removed sooner rather than later with or without their consent of the roc. Get it?
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Re: TRNC’S FOREIGN TRADE

Postby Kikapu » Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:53 pm

YFred wrote:
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halil wrote:Total TRNC imports last year were 1 billion 241 million dollars, and exports 71 million 73 thousand dollars, according to the figures released by the Trade Department.


TCs often praise Turkey for everything, even to their existence, and yet, Turkey imports approximately ONLY $37 million dollars worth of goods. The question I have is, why isn't the 70+ million Turks not buying more from the "trnc" to help them get on their own two feet so not to depend on the money directly given to them by Turkey to help with their so called economy. The average Turks imports a little over 50 cents (half a dollar) worth of products from the north. So what are the problem,

a) are the products from the north too expensive for the Turks

b) the Turks do not want products from the "trnc"

c) the products from the north does not appeal to the Turks

d) if (c) is correct, then why would it appeal to any other country if their own "motherland" is not supporting them.?

e) the north has not too much to offer to the Turks or anyone else for that matter

f) if the north does not have too much to offer, then where is the problem of being "isolated" when they have 70+ million market in Turkey who can buy more, if the north had more to sell.

I find it very interesting, that Turkey, who wants everything for the north from the international community as far as lifting the embargoes are not prepared to buy all there is to buy from the north to support their economy, rather than giving them hard cash instead. On the other hand, Turkey sells almost everything to the "trnc", so that all the hard cash they give to the north with one hand, they take it back with the other, and for this, the north believes that Turkey is looking after their best interests.

The hard cash that Turkey gives the north with one hand and takes it back with the other by selling them their goods reminds me of a joke of what the Jewish hooker said, "You have it, you sell it, you still have it. Oh, what a business".! :lol:

How many times do I have to tell you TRNC cannot compete with Turkey on any front. Turkey can produce cheaper and better quality than TRNC. That is one of the reasons why the EU is a little woried about letting Turkey into EU. Don't get me wrong, that is not necessarily a good thing. It means that the workers are not getting a fair deal and their health and safety leaves a lot to be desired, but you are barking up the wrong tree sunshine. The real problem is economic suffocation by the roc and will be removed sooner rather than later with or without their consent of the roc. Get it?


No, I don't get it, because if what you say it's true that what the "trnc" products are more costly than what the Turks can produce, hardly to believe by the way, given the non existence economy in the north, then why doesn't Turkey subsidize the products from the "trnc" and sell the products at a discount to the Turks in Turkey. Surely it is better than giving the "trnc" hard cash, isn't it.?? As a matter of fact, it will be much cheaper for them than giving hard cash.!
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EU wont allow it.
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Re: TRNC’S FOREIGN TRADE

Postby YFred » Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:05 pm

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:Total TRNC imports last year were 1 billion 241 million dollars, and exports 71 million 73 thousand dollars, according to the figures released by the Trade Department.


TCs often praise Turkey for everything, even to their existence, and yet, Turkey imports approximately ONLY $37 million dollars worth of goods. The question I have is, why isn't the 70+ million Turks not buying more from the "trnc" to help them get on their own two feet so not to depend on the money directly given to them by Turkey to help with their so called economy. The average Turks imports a little over 50 cents (half a dollar) worth of products from the north. So what are the problem,

a) are the products from the north too expensive for the Turks

b) the Turks do not want products from the "trnc"

c) the products from the north does not appeal to the Turks

d) if (c) is correct, then why would it appeal to any other country if their own "motherland" is not supporting them.?

e) the north has not too much to offer to the Turks or anyone else for that matter

f) if the north does not have too much to offer, then where is the problem of being "isolated" when they have 70+ million market in Turkey who can buy more, if the north had more to sell.

I find it very interesting, that Turkey, who wants everything for the north from the international community as far as lifting the embargoes are not prepared to buy all there is to buy from the north to support their economy, rather than giving them hard cash instead. On the other hand, Turkey sells almost everything to the "trnc", so that all the hard cash they give to the north with one hand, they take it back with the other, and for this, the north believes that Turkey is looking after their best interests.

The hard cash that Turkey gives the north with one hand and takes it back with the other by selling them their goods reminds me of a joke of what the Jewish hooker said, "You have it, you sell it, you still have it. Oh, what a business".! :lol:

How many times do I have to tell you TRNC cannot compete with Turkey on any front. Turkey can produce cheaper and better quality than TRNC. That is one of the reasons why the EU is a little woried about letting Turkey into EU. Don't get me wrong, that is not necessarily a good thing. It means that the workers are not getting a fair deal and their health and safety leaves a lot to be desired, but you are barking up the wrong tree sunshine. The real problem is economic suffocation by the roc and will be removed sooner rather than later with or without their consent of the roc. Get it?


No, I don't get it, because if what you say it's true that what the "trnc" products are more costly than what the Turks can produce, hardly to believe by the way, given the non existence economy in the north, then why doesn't Turkey subsidize the products from the "trnc" and sell the products at a discount to the Turks in Turkey. Surely it is better than giving the "trnc" hard cash, isn't it.?? As a matter of fact, it will be much cheaper for them than giving hard cash.!

You have no hope. If you go to any shops near military bases you will see the prices from Turkish goods are considerably cheaper compared to the rest. It actually makes economic sense to get TCs to buy Turkish goods whilst the embargo is on. When It is removed, TCs will be very rich just from selling Turkish goods to the EU. Trust me on this one. There is an example in a village called Pile. They are able to buy Turkish goods and freely sell it to the GCs, and they are very wealthy?
Do you now get it?
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Re: TRNC’S FOREIGN TRADE

Postby Kikapu » Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:11 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:Total TRNC imports last year were 1 billion 241 million dollars, and exports 71 million 73 thousand dollars, according to the figures released by the Trade Department.


TCs often praise Turkey for everything, even to their existence, and yet, Turkey imports approximately ONLY $37 million dollars worth of goods. The question I have is, why isn't the 70+ million Turks not buying more from the "trnc" to help them get on their own two feet so not to depend on the money directly given to them by Turkey to help with their so called economy. The average Turks imports a little over 50 cents (half a dollar) worth of products from the north. So what are the problem,

a) are the products from the north too expensive for the Turks

b) the Turks do not want products from the "trnc"

c) the products from the north does not appeal to the Turks

d) if (c) is correct, then why would it appeal to any other country if their own "motherland" is not supporting them.?

e) the north has not too much to offer to the Turks or anyone else for that matter

f) if the north does not have too much to offer, then where is the problem of being "isolated" when they have 70+ million market in Turkey who can buy more, if the north had more to sell.

I find it very interesting, that Turkey, who wants everything for the north from the international community as far as lifting the embargoes are not prepared to buy all there is to buy from the north to support their economy, rather than giving them hard cash instead. On the other hand, Turkey sells almost everything to the "trnc", so that all the hard cash they give to the north with one hand, they take it back with the other, and for this, the north believes that Turkey is looking after their best interests.

The hard cash that Turkey gives the north with one hand and takes it back with the other by selling them their goods reminds me of a joke of what the Jewish hooker said, "You have it, you sell it, you still have it. Oh, what a business".! :lol:

How many times do I have to tell you TRNC cannot compete with Turkey on any front. Turkey can produce cheaper and better quality than TRNC. That is one of the reasons why the EU is a little woried about letting Turkey into EU. Don't get me wrong, that is not necessarily a good thing. It means that the workers are not getting a fair deal and their health and safety leaves a lot to be desired, but you are barking up the wrong tree sunshine. The real problem is economic suffocation by the roc and will be removed sooner rather than later with or without their consent of the roc. Get it?


No, I don't get it, because if what you say it's true that what the "trnc" products are more costly than what the Turks can produce, hardly to believe by the way, given the non existence economy in the north, then why doesn't Turkey subsidize the products from the "trnc" and sell the products at a discount to the Turks in Turkey. Surely it is better than giving the "trnc" hard cash, isn't it.?? As a matter of fact, it will be much cheaper for them than giving hard cash.!

You have no hope. If you go to any shops near military bases you will see the prices from Turkish goods are considerably cheaper compared to the rest. It actually makes economic sense to get TCs to buy Turkish goods whilst the embargo is on. When It is removed, TCs will be very rich just from selling Turkish goods to the EU. Trust me on this one. There is an example in a village called Pile. They are able to buy Turkish goods and freely sell it to the GCs, and they are very wealthy?
Do you now get it?
:lol: :lol: :lol:


I'm sorry, YFred, but you seem to have a comprehension problems, not that I have not raised this issue with you before.!

If all those in Pile are getting rich, then why aren't the TCs selling all their goods through the RoC to anywhere in the EU rather than only the $7 million dollars worth to the RoC..??
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Re: TRNC’S FOREIGN TRADE

Postby YFred » Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:16 pm

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:Total TRNC imports last year were 1 billion 241 million dollars, and exports 71 million 73 thousand dollars, according to the figures released by the Trade Department.


TCs often praise Turkey for everything, even to their existence, and yet, Turkey imports approximately ONLY $37 million dollars worth of goods. The question I have is, why isn't the 70+ million Turks not buying more from the "trnc" to help them get on their own two feet so not to depend on the money directly given to them by Turkey to help with their so called economy. The average Turks imports a little over 50 cents (half a dollar) worth of products from the north. So what are the problem,

a) are the products from the north too expensive for the Turks

b) the Turks do not want products from the "trnc"

c) the products from the north does not appeal to the Turks

d) if (c) is correct, then why would it appeal to any other country if their own "motherland" is not supporting them.?

e) the north has not too much to offer to the Turks or anyone else for that matter

f) if the north does not have too much to offer, then where is the problem of being "isolated" when they have 70+ million market in Turkey who can buy more, if the north had more to sell.

I find it very interesting, that Turkey, who wants everything for the north from the international community as far as lifting the embargoes are not prepared to buy all there is to buy from the north to support their economy, rather than giving them hard cash instead. On the other hand, Turkey sells almost everything to the "trnc", so that all the hard cash they give to the north with one hand, they take it back with the other, and for this, the north believes that Turkey is looking after their best interests.

The hard cash that Turkey gives the north with one hand and takes it back with the other by selling them their goods reminds me of a joke of what the Jewish hooker said, "You have it, you sell it, you still have it. Oh, what a business".! :lol:

How many times do I have to tell you TRNC cannot compete with Turkey on any front. Turkey can produce cheaper and better quality than TRNC. That is one of the reasons why the EU is a little woried about letting Turkey into EU. Don't get me wrong, that is not necessarily a good thing. It means that the workers are not getting a fair deal and their health and safety leaves a lot to be desired, but you are barking up the wrong tree sunshine. The real problem is economic suffocation by the roc and will be removed sooner rather than later with or without their consent of the roc. Get it?


No, I don't get it, because if what you say it's true that what the "trnc" products are more costly than what the Turks can produce, hardly to believe by the way, given the non existence economy in the north, then why doesn't Turkey subsidize the products from the "trnc" and sell the products at a discount to the Turks in Turkey. Surely it is better than giving the "trnc" hard cash, isn't it.?? As a matter of fact, it will be much cheaper for them than giving hard cash.!

You have no hope. If you go to any shops near military bases you will see the prices from Turkish goods are considerably cheaper compared to the rest. It actually makes economic sense to get TCs to buy Turkish goods whilst the embargo is on. When It is removed, TCs will be very rich just from selling Turkish goods to the EU. Trust me on this one. There is an example in a village called Pile. They are able to buy Turkish goods and freely sell it to the GCs, and they are very wealthy?
Do you now get it?
:lol: :lol: :lol:


I'm sorry, YFred, but you seem to have a comprehension problems, not that I have not raised this issue with you before.!

If all those in Pile are getting rich, then why aren't the TCs selling all their goods through the RoC to anywhere in the EU rather than only the $7 million dollars worth to the RoC..??

I see your problem.

Have you ever tried pumping a million gallons of water via a garden hose pipe?

Are you seriously suggesting that the whole of the TRNC econmy can be channelled via Pile. You forget the racism against TCs else where. The rest of Cyprus is not like Pile unfortunately.
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Re: TRNC’S FOREIGN TRADE

Postby Kikapu » Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:24 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:Total TRNC imports last year were 1 billion 241 million dollars, and exports 71 million 73 thousand dollars, according to the figures released by the Trade Department.


TCs often praise Turkey for everything, even to their existence, and yet, Turkey imports approximately ONLY $37 million dollars worth of goods. The question I have is, why isn't the 70+ million Turks not buying more from the "trnc" to help them get on their own two feet so not to depend on the money directly given to them by Turkey to help with their so called economy. The average Turks imports a little over 50 cents (half a dollar) worth of products from the north. So what are the problem,

a) are the products from the north too expensive for the Turks

b) the Turks do not want products from the "trnc"

c) the products from the north does not appeal to the Turks

d) if (c) is correct, then why would it appeal to any other country if their own "motherland" is not supporting them.?

e) the north has not too much to offer to the Turks or anyone else for that matter

f) if the north does not have too much to offer, then where is the problem of being "isolated" when they have 70+ million market in Turkey who can buy more, if the north had more to sell.

I find it very interesting, that Turkey, who wants everything for the north from the international community as far as lifting the embargoes are not prepared to buy all there is to buy from the north to support their economy, rather than giving them hard cash instead. On the other hand, Turkey sells almost everything to the "trnc", so that all the hard cash they give to the north with one hand, they take it back with the other, and for this, the north believes that Turkey is looking after their best interests.

The hard cash that Turkey gives the north with one hand and takes it back with the other by selling them their goods reminds me of a joke of what the Jewish hooker said, "You have it, you sell it, you still have it. Oh, what a business".! :lol:

How many times do I have to tell you TRNC cannot compete with Turkey on any front. Turkey can produce cheaper and better quality than TRNC. That is one of the reasons why the EU is a little woried about letting Turkey into EU. Don't get me wrong, that is not necessarily a good thing. It means that the workers are not getting a fair deal and their health and safety leaves a lot to be desired, but you are barking up the wrong tree sunshine. The real problem is economic suffocation by the roc and will be removed sooner rather than later with or without their consent of the roc. Get it?


No, I don't get it, because if what you say it's true that what the "trnc" products are more costly than what the Turks can produce, hardly to believe by the way, given the non existence economy in the north, then why doesn't Turkey subsidize the products from the "trnc" and sell the products at a discount to the Turks in Turkey. Surely it is better than giving the "trnc" hard cash, isn't it.?? As a matter of fact, it will be much cheaper for them than giving hard cash.!

You have no hope. If you go to any shops near military bases you will see the prices from Turkish goods are considerably cheaper compared to the rest. It actually makes economic sense to get TCs to buy Turkish goods whilst the embargo is on. When It is removed, TCs will be very rich just from selling Turkish goods to the EU. Trust me on this one. There is an example in a village called Pile. They are able to buy Turkish goods and freely sell it to the GCs, and they are very wealthy?
Do you now get it?
:lol: :lol: :lol:


I'm sorry, YFred, but you seem to have a comprehension problems, not that I have not raised this issue with you before.!

If all those in Pile are getting rich, then why aren't the TCs selling all their goods through the RoC to anywhere in the EU rather than only the $7 million dollars worth to the RoC..??

I see your problem.

Have you ever tried pumping a million gallons of water via a garden hose pipe?

Are you seriously suggesting that the whole of the TRNC econmy can be channelled via Pile. You forget the racism against TCs else where. The rest of Cyprus is not like Pile unfortunately.


I'll give up with you.!:lol: :lol: :lol:

I didn't realise that Pile was the ONLY point of trade to be had under the "Green Line Agreements".! :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: TRNC’S FOREIGN TRADE

Postby YFred » Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:28 pm

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:Total TRNC imports last year were 1 billion 241 million dollars, and exports 71 million 73 thousand dollars, according to the figures released by the Trade Department.


TCs often praise Turkey for everything, even to their existence, and yet, Turkey imports approximately ONLY $37 million dollars worth of goods. The question I have is, why isn't the 70+ million Turks not buying more from the "trnc" to help them get on their own two feet so not to depend on the money directly given to them by Turkey to help with their so called economy. The average Turks imports a little over 50 cents (half a dollar) worth of products from the north. So what are the problem,

a) are the products from the north too expensive for the Turks

b) the Turks do not want products from the "trnc"

c) the products from the north does not appeal to the Turks

d) if (c) is correct, then why would it appeal to any other country if their own "motherland" is not supporting them.?

e) the north has not too much to offer to the Turks or anyone else for that matter

f) if the north does not have too much to offer, then where is the problem of being "isolated" when they have 70+ million market in Turkey who can buy more, if the north had more to sell.

I find it very interesting, that Turkey, who wants everything for the north from the international community as far as lifting the embargoes are not prepared to buy all there is to buy from the north to support their economy, rather than giving them hard cash instead. On the other hand, Turkey sells almost everything to the "trnc", so that all the hard cash they give to the north with one hand, they take it back with the other, and for this, the north believes that Turkey is looking after their best interests.

The hard cash that Turkey gives the north with one hand and takes it back with the other by selling them their goods reminds me of a joke of what the Jewish hooker said, "You have it, you sell it, you still have it. Oh, what a business".! :lol:

How many times do I have to tell you TRNC cannot compete with Turkey on any front. Turkey can produce cheaper and better quality than TRNC. That is one of the reasons why the EU is a little woried about letting Turkey into EU. Don't get me wrong, that is not necessarily a good thing. It means that the workers are not getting a fair deal and their health and safety leaves a lot to be desired, but you are barking up the wrong tree sunshine. The real problem is economic suffocation by the roc and will be removed sooner rather than later with or without their consent of the roc. Get it?


No, I don't get it, because if what you say it's true that what the "trnc" products are more costly than what the Turks can produce, hardly to believe by the way, given the non existence economy in the north, then why doesn't Turkey subsidize the products from the "trnc" and sell the products at a discount to the Turks in Turkey. Surely it is better than giving the "trnc" hard cash, isn't it.?? As a matter of fact, it will be much cheaper for them than giving hard cash.!

You have no hope. If you go to any shops near military bases you will see the prices from Turkish goods are considerably cheaper compared to the rest. It actually makes economic sense to get TCs to buy Turkish goods whilst the embargo is on. When It is removed, TCs will be very rich just from selling Turkish goods to the EU. Trust me on this one. There is an example in a village called Pile. They are able to buy Turkish goods and freely sell it to the GCs, and they are very wealthy?
Do you now get it?
:lol: :lol: :lol:


I'm sorry, YFred, but you seem to have a comprehension problems, not that I have not raised this issue with you before.!

If all those in Pile are getting rich, then why aren't the TCs selling all their goods through the RoC to anywhere in the EU rather than only the $7 million dollars worth to the RoC..??

I see your problem.

Have you ever tried pumping a million gallons of water via a garden hose pipe?

Are you seriously suggesting that the whole of the TRNC econmy can be channelled via Pile. You forget the racism against TCs else where. The rest of Cyprus is not like Pile unfortunately.


I'll give up with you.!:lol: :lol: :lol:

I didn't realise that Pile was the ONLY point of trade to be had under the "Green Line Agreements".! :roll: :roll: :roll:

That's the whole point. Pile was not part of the Green Line Agreement. The green Line agreement is not working. Where have you been. They tried getting £19.50 worth of brick to the south and it took 4 hours. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:31 pm

Kikapu you need to talk to local TC businessmen about why they are unable to sell or go through the south its has a lot to do with GC scaremongering and persecution if caught.
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