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[YFred]

from the same link:

Turkish Cypriots (TC) and Greek Cypriots(GC) still managed to live together. Fast forward 40 years to opening of Green Line in 2005, when tens of thousands of Cypriots crossed without incident.

IF what you say is genuine, which is why i doubt you... then why not accept a UN army to look after both sides?

UN army is in control of the Permenant members of the secutity council. Do you really think the TCS will trust Russia and the damn frogs for their protection. Pleas pull the other one the middle one has bells on it. We don't need the Turkish armu in Cyprus, but without the gurantee there will never be peace. You will understand it eventually, in about 10 thousand years.

I fail to understand the logic in your argument.

Why does the invader require a guarantee to remain in Cyprus ! Please kindly explain.

The invader does not require a guarantee to stay...It requires a guarantee to leave...To realise how totally useless the UN forces are anywhere you only need to look at the Rowandan situation not so long ago...More than 500,000 people were slaughtered while the UN forces practically stood and watched...
The TCs will not accept anyone else'e guarantee,only Turkey's...That is one of their red lines...No guarantee no agreement....In don't like it any more than you do,Byron...But that is the reality given our bloody past....Take it or leave it...

Bir, there is the NATO forces that can protect any one in Cyprus. It was the NATO forces that gave Kosovo their liberation from the Serbs. It is the NATO forces who are fighting and dying in Afghanistan. In both the cases, they are fighting/fought to save the non Christians, so if the UN is not up to the job, what's the reason why NATO can't do the job.? Is this not the perfect compromise where each side will have Turks and Greeks as well as other NATO members on the streets of Cyprus to provide what ever security that may be needed for all Cypriots.?

What? They are fighting for who? you lost it sunshine. America and all those who could not resist them joined in the attack of Afghanistan. They are not fighting for Afghans, not when they are killing innocent civilians indescreminently from their play station cubby holes. Amercinas and their allies will be defeated in Afghanistan just like they were in Vietnam. The irony of all this is that it was the stupid yanks who created, armed and trained the talliban. Fnacy that?

[Kikapu]

from the same link:

Turkish Cypriots (TC) and Greek Cypriots(GC) still managed to live together. Fast forward 40 years to opening of Green Line in 2005, when tens of thousands of Cypriots crossed without incident.

IF what you say is genuine, which is why i doubt you... then why not accept a UN army to look after both sides?

UN army is in control of the Permenant members of the secutity council. Do you really think the TCS will trust Russia and the damn frogs for their protection. Pleas pull the other one the middle one has bells on it. We don't need the Turkish armu in Cyprus, but without the gurantee there will never be peace. You will understand it eventually, in about 10 thousand years.

I fail to understand the logic in your argument.

Why does the invader require a guarantee to remain in Cyprus ! Please kindly explain.

The invader does not require a guarantee to stay...It requires a guarantee to leave...To realise how totally useless the UN forces are anywhere you only need to look at the Rowandan situation not so long ago...More than 500,000 people were slaughtered while the UN forces practically stood and watched...
The TCs will not accept anyone else'e guarantee,only Turkey's...That is one of their red lines...No guarantee no agreement....In don't like it any more than you do,Byron...But that is the reality given our bloody past....Take it or leave it...

Bir, there is the NATO forces that can protect any one in Cyprus. It was the NATO forces that gave Kosovo their liberation from the Serbs. It is the NATO forces who are fighting and dying in Afghanistan. In both the cases, they are fighting/fought to save the non Christians, so if the UN is not up to the job, what's the reason why NATO can't do the job.? Is this not the perfect compromise where each side will have Turks and Greeks as well as other NATO members on the streets of Cyprus to provide what ever security that may be needed for all Cypriots.?

What? They are fighting for who? you lost it sunshine. America and all those who could not resist them joined in the attack of Afghanistan. They are not fighting for Afghans, not when they are killing innocent civilians indescreminently from their play station cubby holes. Amercinas and their allies will be defeated in Afghanistan just like they were in Vietnam. The irony of all this is that it was the stupid yanks who created, armed and trained the talliban. Fnacy that?

What does the above have anything to do with what we are talking about.??

Did Turkey not stand by and left the TCs in enclaves for 11 whole years from 1963 until 1974.??

[YFred]

from the same link:

Turkish Cypriots (TC) and Greek Cypriots(GC) still managed to live together. Fast forward 40 years to opening of Green Line in 2005, when tens of thousands of Cypriots crossed without incident.

IF what you say is genuine, which is why i doubt you... then why not accept a UN army to look after both sides?

UN army is in control of the Permenant members of the secutity council. Do you really think the TCS will trust Russia and the damn frogs for their protection. Pleas pull the other one the middle one has bells on it. We don't need the Turkish armu in Cyprus, but without the gurantee there will never be peace. You will understand it eventually, in about 10 thousand years.

I fail to understand the logic in your argument.

Why does the invader require a guarantee to remain in Cyprus ! Please kindly explain.

The invader does not require a guarantee to stay...It requires a guarantee to leave...To realise how totally useless the UN forces are anywhere you only need to look at the Rowandan situation not so long ago...More than 500,000 people were slaughtered while the UN forces practically stood and watched...
The TCs will not accept anyone else'e guarantee,only Turkey's...That is one of their red lines...No guarantee no agreement....In don't like it any more than you do,Byron...But that is the reality given our bloody past....Take it or leave it...

Bir, there is the NATO forces that can protect any one in Cyprus. It was the NATO forces that gave Kosovo their liberation from the Serbs. It is the NATO forces who are fighting and dying in Afghanistan. In both the cases, they are fighting/fought to save the non Christians, so if the UN is not up to the job, what's the reason why NATO can't do the job.? Is this not the perfect compromise where each side will have Turks and Greeks as well as other NATO members on the streets of Cyprus to provide what ever security that may be needed for all Cypriots.?

What? They are fighting for who? you lost it sunshine. America and all those who could not resist them joined in the attack of Afghanistan. They are not fighting for Afghans, not when they are killing innocent civilians indescreminently from their play station cubby holes. Amercinas and their allies will be defeated in Afghanistan just like they were in Vietnam. The irony of all this is that it was the stupid yanks who created, armed and trained the talliban. Fnacy that?

What does the above have anything to do with what we are talking about.??

Did Turkey not stand by and left the TCs in enclaves for 11 whole years from 1963 until 1974.??

I could have sworn you were talking about America and Afghanistan, just goes to show you haven't a clue to what you are talking about.

[Kikapu]

from the same link:

Turkish Cypriots (TC) and Greek Cypriots(GC) still managed to live together. Fast forward 40 years to opening of Green Line in 2005, when tens of thousands of Cypriots crossed without incident.

IF what you say is genuine, which is why i doubt you... then why not accept a UN army to look after both sides?

UN army is in control of the Permenant members of the secutity council. Do you really think the TCS will trust Russia and the damn frogs for their protection. Pleas pull the other one the middle one has bells on it. We don't need the Turkish armu in Cyprus, but without the gurantee there will never be peace. You will understand it eventually, in about 10 thousand years.

I fail to understand the logic in your argument.

Why does the invader require a guarantee to remain in Cyprus ! Please kindly explain.

The invader does not require a guarantee to stay...It requires a guarantee to leave...To realise how totally useless the UN forces are anywhere you only need to look at the Rowandan situation not so long ago...More than 500,000 people were slaughtered while the UN forces practically stood and watched...
The TCs will not accept anyone else'e guarantee,only Turkey's...That is one of their red lines...No guarantee no agreement....In don't like it any more than you do,Byron...But that is the reality given our bloody past....Take it or leave it...

Bir, there is the NATO forces that can protect any one in Cyprus. It was the NATO forces that gave Kosovo their liberation from the Serbs. It is the NATO forces who are fighting and dying in Afghanistan. In both the cases, they are fighting/fought to save the non Christians, so if the UN is not up to the job, what's the reason why NATO can't do the job.? Is this not the perfect compromise where each side will have Turks and Greeks as well as other NATO members on the streets of Cyprus to provide what ever security that may be needed for all Cypriots.?

What? They are fighting for who? you lost it sunshine. America and all those who could not resist them joined in the attack of Afghanistan. They are not fighting for Afghans, not when they are killing innocent civilians indescreminently from their play station cubby holes. Amercinas and their allies will be defeated in Afghanistan just like they were in Vietnam. The irony of all this is that it was the stupid yanks who created, armed and trained the talliban. Fnacy that?

What does the above have anything to do with what we are talking about.??

Did Turkey not stand by and left the TCs in enclaves for 11 whole years from 1963 until 1974.??

I could have sworn you were talking about America and Afghanistan, just goes to show you haven't a clue to what you are talking about.

No, I was talking about NATO.!

So you do not want to answer the question............again.!

[YFred]

from the same link:

Turkish Cypriots (TC) and Greek Cypriots(GC) still managed to live together. Fast forward 40 years to opening of Green Line in 2005, when tens of thousands of Cypriots crossed without incident.

IF what you say is genuine, which is why i doubt you... then why not accept a UN army to look after both sides?

UN army is in control of the Permenant members of the secutity council. Do you really think the TCS will trust Russia and the damn frogs for their protection. Pleas pull the other one the middle one has bells on it. We don't need the Turkish armu in Cyprus, but without the gurantee there will never be peace. You will understand it eventually, in about 10 thousand years.

I fail to understand the logic in your argument.

Why does the invader require a guarantee to remain in Cyprus ! Please kindly explain.

The invader does not require a guarantee to stay...It requires a guarantee to leave...To realise how totally useless the UN forces are anywhere you only need to look at the Rowandan situation not so long ago...More than 500,000 people were slaughtered while the UN forces practically stood and watched...
The TCs will not accept anyone else'e guarantee,only Turkey's...That is one of their red lines...No guarantee no agreement....In don't like it any more than you do,Byron...But that is the reality given our bloody past....Take it or leave it...

Bir, there is the NATO forces that can protect any one in Cyprus. It was the NATO forces that gave Kosovo their liberation from the Serbs. It is the NATO forces who are fighting and dying in Afghanistan. In both the cases, they are fighting/fought to save the non Christians, so if the UN is not up to the job, what's the reason why NATO can't do the job.? Is this not the perfect compromise where each side will have Turks and Greeks as well as other NATO members on the streets of Cyprus to provide what ever security that may be needed for all Cypriots.?

What? They are fighting for who? you lost it sunshine. America and all those who could not resist them joined in the attack of Afghanistan. They are not fighting for Afghans, not when they are killing innocent civilians indescreminently from their play station cubby holes. Amercinas and their allies will be defeated in Afghanistan just like they were in Vietnam. The irony of all this is that it was the stupid yanks who created, armed and trained the talliban. Fnacy that?

What does the above have anything to do with what we are talking about.??

Did Turkey not stand by and left the TCs in enclaves for 11 whole years from 1963 until 1974.??

I could have sworn you were talking about America and Afghanistan, just goes to show you haven't a clue to what you are talking about.

No, I was talking about NATO.!

So you do not want to answer the question............again.!

So it was Nato that decided to go to Afghanistan not America. I don't know what it is you take but can you please post me some? It must be bliss living in your ignorance.

[Kikapu]

from the same link:

Turkish Cypriots (TC) and Greek Cypriots(GC) still managed to live together. Fast forward 40 years to opening of Green Line in 2005, when tens of thousands of Cypriots crossed without incident.

IF what you say is genuine, which is why i doubt you... then why not accept a UN army to look after both sides?

UN army is in control of the Permenant members of the secutity council. Do you really think the TCS will trust Russia and the damn frogs for their protection. Pleas pull the other one the middle one has bells on it. We don't need the Turkish armu in Cyprus, but without the gurantee there will never be peace. You will understand it eventually, in about 10 thousand years.

I fail to understand the logic in your argument.

Why does the invader require a guarantee to remain in Cyprus ! Please kindly explain.

The invader does not require a guarantee to stay...It requires a guarantee to leave...To realise how totally useless the UN forces are anywhere you only need to look at the Rowandan situation not so long ago...More than 500,000 people were slaughtered while the UN forces practically stood and watched...
The TCs will not accept anyone else'e guarantee,only Turkey's...That is one of their red lines...No guarantee no agreement....In don't like it any more than you do,Byron...But that is the reality given our bloody past....Take it or leave it...

Bir, there is the NATO forces that can protect any one in Cyprus. It was the NATO forces that gave Kosovo their liberation from the Serbs. It is the NATO forces who are fighting and dying in Afghanistan. In both the cases, they are fighting/fought to save the non Christians, so if the UN is not up to the job, what's the reason why NATO can't do the job.? Is this not the perfect compromise where each side will have Turks and Greeks as well as other NATO members on the streets of Cyprus to provide what ever security that may be needed for all Cypriots.?

What? They are fighting for who? you lost it sunshine. America and all those who could not resist them joined in the attack of Afghanistan. They are not fighting for Afghans, not when they are killing innocent civilians indescreminently from their play station cubby holes. Amercinas and their allies will be defeated in Afghanistan just like they were in Vietnam. The irony of all this is that it was the stupid yanks who created, armed and trained the talliban. Fnacy that?

What does the above have anything to do with what we are talking about.??

Did Turkey not stand by and left the TCs in enclaves for 11 whole years from 1963 until 1974.??

I could have sworn you were talking about America and Afghanistan, just goes to show you haven't a clue to what you are talking about.

No, I was talking about NATO.!

So you do not want to answer the question............again.!

So it was Nato that decided to go to Afghanistan not America. I don't know what it is you take but can you please post me some? It must be bliss living in your ignorance.

Another case of Cyberspace waste from, YFred.!

[YFred]

from the same link:

Turkish Cypriots (TC) and Greek Cypriots(GC) still managed to live together. Fast forward 40 years to opening of Green Line in 2005, when tens of thousands of Cypriots crossed without incident.

IF what you say is genuine, which is why i doubt you... then why not accept a UN army to look after both sides?

UN army is in control of the Permenant members of the secutity council. Do you really think the TCS will trust Russia and the damn frogs for their protection. Pleas pull the other one the middle one has bells on it. We don't need the Turkish armu in Cyprus, but without the gurantee there will never be peace. You will understand it eventually, in about 10 thousand years.

I fail to understand the logic in your argument.

Why does the invader require a guarantee to remain in Cyprus ! Please kindly explain.

The invader does not require a guarantee to stay...It requires a guarantee to leave...To realise how totally useless the UN forces are anywhere you only need to look at the Rowandan situation not so long ago...More than 500,000 people were slaughtered while the UN forces practically stood and watched...
The TCs will not accept anyone else'e guarantee,only Turkey's...That is one of their red lines...No guarantee no agreement....In don't like it any more than you do,Byron...But that is the reality given our bloody past....Take it or leave it...

Bir, there is the NATO forces that can protect any one in Cyprus. It was the NATO forces that gave Kosovo their liberation from the Serbs. It is the NATO forces who are fighting and dying in Afghanistan. In both the cases, they are fighting/fought to save the non Christians, so if the UN is not up to the job, what's the reason why NATO can't do the job.? Is this not the perfect compromise where each side will have Turks and Greeks as well as other NATO members on the streets of Cyprus to provide what ever security that may be needed for all Cypriots.?

What? They are fighting for who? you lost it sunshine. America and all those who could not resist them joined in the attack of Afghanistan. They are not fighting for Afghans, not when they are killing innocent civilians indescreminently from their play station cubby holes. Amercinas and their allies will be defeated in Afghanistan just like they were in Vietnam. The irony of all this is that it was the stupid yanks who created, armed and trained the talliban. Fnacy that?

What does the above have anything to do with what we are talking about.??

Did Turkey not stand by and left the TCs in enclaves for 11 whole years from 1963 until 1974.??

I could have sworn you were talking about America and Afghanistan, just goes to show you haven't a clue to what you are talking about.

No, I was talking about NATO.!

So you do not want to answer the question............again.!

So it was Nato that decided to go to Afghanistan not America. I don't know what it is you take but can you please post me some? It must be bliss living in your ignorance.

Another case of Cyberspace waste from, YFred.!

So Nato felt threatened by Taliban and asked for a meeting of nato forces and requested America sacrifices yanke troops on their behalf?
Have you any idea how tthese things work. How much Amercia has to bribe the nato nations to go along with crack crackpot ideas? That's what happens when stupid people ellect an even more stupid president.

[Kikapu]

from the same link:

Turkish Cypriots (TC) and Greek Cypriots(GC) still managed to live together. Fast forward 40 years to opening of Green Line in 2005, when tens of thousands of Cypriots crossed without incident.

IF what you say is genuine, which is why i doubt you... then why not accept a UN army to look after both sides?

UN army is in control of the Permenant members of the secutity council. Do you really think the TCS will trust Russia and the damn frogs for their protection. Pleas pull the other one the middle one has bells on it. We don't need the Turkish armu in Cyprus, but without the gurantee there will never be peace. You will understand it eventually, in about 10 thousand years.

I fail to understand the logic in your argument.

Why does the invader require a guarantee to remain in Cyprus ! Please kindly explain.

The invader does not require a guarantee to stay...It requires a guarantee to leave...To realise how totally useless the UN forces are anywhere you only need to look at the Rowandan situation not so long ago...More than 500,000 people were slaughtered while the UN forces practically stood and watched...
The TCs will not accept anyone else'e guarantee,only Turkey's...That is one of their red lines...No guarantee no agreement....In don't like it any more than you do,Byron...But that is the reality given our bloody past....Take it or leave it...

Bir, there is the NATO forces that can protect any one in Cyprus. It was the NATO forces that gave Kosovo their liberation from the Serbs. It is the NATO forces who are fighting and dying in Afghanistan. In both the cases, they are fighting/fought to save the non Christians, so if the UN is not up to the job, what's the reason why NATO can't do the job.? Is this not the perfect compromise where each side will have Turks and Greeks as well as other NATO members on the streets of Cyprus to provide what ever security that may be needed for all Cypriots.?

What? They are fighting for who? you lost it sunshine. America and all those who could not resist them joined in the attack of Afghanistan. They are not fighting for Afghans, not when they are killing innocent civilians indescreminently from their play station cubby holes. Amercinas and their allies will be defeated in Afghanistan just like they were in Vietnam. The irony of all this is that it was the stupid yanks who created, armed and trained the talliban. Fnacy that?

What does the above have anything to do with what we are talking about.??

Did Turkey not stand by and left the TCs in enclaves for 11 whole years from 1963 until 1974.??

I could have sworn you were talking about America and Afghanistan, just goes to show you haven't a clue to what you are talking about.

No, I was talking about NATO.!

So you do not want to answer the question............again.!

So it was Nato that decided to go to Afghanistan not America. I don't know what it is you take but can you please post me some? It must be bliss living in your ignorance.

Another case of Cyberspace waste from, YFred.!

So Nato felt threatened by Taliban and asked for a meeting of nato forces and requested America sacrifices yanke troops on their behalf?
Have you any idea how tthese things work. How much Amercia has to bribe the nato nations to go along with crack crackpot ideas? That's what happens when stupid people ellect an even more stupid president.

You seem to forget, that United states is also a NATO member, and if one NATO member is attacked, the rest suppose to help out....no.?? You know, the "all for one and one for all" deal.!

In any case, stick to the topic, which is, why can't NATO secure security in Cyprus rather than giving it to the Invading Occupying force of Turkey who has a track record of not meeting her guarantor obligation, but in fact violating them many times over and also not coming to the aid of the TCs from 1963 to 1974.??.??

[YFred]

from the same link:

Turkish Cypriots (TC) and Greek Cypriots(GC) still managed to live together. Fast forward 40 years to opening of Green Line in 2005, when tens of thousands of Cypriots crossed without incident.

IF what you say is genuine, which is why i doubt you... then why not accept a UN army to look after both sides?

UN army is in control of the Permenant members of the secutity council. Do you really think the TCS will trust Russia and the damn frogs for their protection. Pleas pull the other one the middle one has bells on it. We don't need the Turkish armu in Cyprus, but without the gurantee there will never be peace. You will understand it eventually, in about 10 thousand years.

I fail to understand the logic in your argument.

Why does the invader require a guarantee to remain in Cyprus ! Please kindly explain.

The invader does not require a guarantee to stay...It requires a guarantee to leave...To realise how totally useless the UN forces are anywhere you only need to look at the Rowandan situation not so long ago...More than 500,000 people were slaughtered while the UN forces practically stood and watched...
The TCs will not accept anyone else'e guarantee,only Turkey's...That is one of their red lines...No guarantee no agreement....In don't like it any more than you do,Byron...But that is the reality given our bloody past....Take it or leave it...

Bir, there is the NATO forces that can protect any one in Cyprus. It was the NATO forces that gave Kosovo their liberation from the Serbs. It is the NATO forces who are fighting and dying in Afghanistan. In both the cases, they are fighting/fought to save the non Christians, so if the UN is not up to the job, what's the reason why NATO can't do the job.? Is this not the perfect compromise where each side will have Turks and Greeks as well as other NATO members on the streets of Cyprus to provide what ever security that may be needed for all Cypriots.?

What? They are fighting for who? you lost it sunshine. America and all those who could not resist them joined in the attack of Afghanistan. They are not fighting for Afghans, not when they are killing innocent civilians indescreminently from their play station cubby holes. Amercinas and their allies will be defeated in Afghanistan just like they were in Vietnam. The irony of all this is that it was the stupid yanks who created, armed and trained the talliban. Fnacy that?

What does the above have anything to do with what we are talking about.??

Did Turkey not stand by and left the TCs in enclaves for 11 whole years from 1963 until 1974.??

I could have sworn you were talking about America and Afghanistan, just goes to show you haven't a clue to what you are talking about.

No, I was talking about NATO.!

So you do not want to answer the question............again.!

So it was Nato that decided to go to Afghanistan not America. I don't know what it is you take but can you please post me some? It must be bliss living in your ignorance.

Another case of Cyberspace waste from, YFred.!

So Nato felt threatened by Taliban and asked for a meeting of nato forces and requested America sacrifices yanke troops on their behalf?
Have you any idea how tthese things work. How much Amercia has to bribe the nato nations to go along with crack crackpot ideas? That's what happens when stupid people ellect an even more stupid president.

You seem to forget, that United states is also a NATO member, and if one NATO member is attacked, the rest suppose to help out....no.?? You know, the "all for one and one for all" deal.!

In any case, stick to the topic, which is, why can't NATO secure security in Cyprus rather than giving it to the Invading Occupying force of Turkey who has a track record of not meeting her guarantor obligation, but in fact violating them many times over and also not coming to the aid of the TCs from 1963 to 1974.??.??

But surely Turkey is a start memebr of Nato only second to UK always obliging to help, what are you worried about?
You see we have a guarantee from Nato already in a round about way so no need to change is there?

[Viewpoint]

You know fulları well why Turkey could not come to the rescue of the TCs in 1963 thank god we able to make for the delay in 1974.