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TC Right to Healthcare in Govt. controlled areas

Postby Chara » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:41 pm

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/32-mi ... s/20100224

I read this article in the CM today. To put it mildly i find it very unfair. I have no problem with free healthcare for TC's or anyone residing in any part of Cyprus. My problem is that it should be the same for everyone. Why should a TC be entitled to free healthcare and it not be means tested, yet I, who pay tax and have a husband who is Chronically ill be tested?

Reverse descrimination?!!!
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Re: TC Right to Healthcare in Govt. controlled areas

Postby EPSILON » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:51 pm

Chara wrote:http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/32-million-health-care-turkish-cypriots/20100224

I read this article in the CM today. To put it mildly i find it very unfair. I have no problem with free healthcare for TC's or anyone residing in any part of Cyprus. My problem is that it should be the same for everyone. Why should a TC be entitled to free healthcare and it not be means tested, yet I, who pay tax and have a husband who is Chronically ill be tested?

Reverse descrimination?!!!


Stupilidy of the looser of the war - the victim of the war seems to like this role of..victim.
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:32 pm

No such thing as "free" healthcare or free anything else and so much for "isolations".

Someone has to pay for it. In the case of healthcare by progressive social insurance schemes.

Everyone should be treated equally. If there's a means test for "free" state healthcare, it should be applied fairly to all. Any unfair approach is challengeable in the Usual Courts.

Where does the "no question asked" racist, freebie approach end? ... Unemployment Benefits ? State Pensions ? .... For those on the take, take and more take, and who have contributed nothing to state insurance schemes?
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Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:04 pm

And now the EU decides who is eligible for benefits. :evil:

Daily Mail wrote:Standing proudly with her arm draped over her 36in television, this is the Somali woman who must be given a council house even though she has no right to live in Britain.

Nimco Hassan Ibrahim - who lives with her four children on benefit handouts - was granted the right to the home by EU judges yesterday because she was once married to a Danish citizen who briefly worked in this country.
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Postby Chara » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:26 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:And now the EU decides who is eligible for benefits. :evil:

Daily Mail wrote:Standing proudly with her arm draped over her 36in television, this is the Somali woman who must be given a council house even though she has no right to live in Britain.

Nimco Hassan Ibrahim - who lives with her four children on benefit handouts - was granted the right to the home by EU judges yesterday because she was once married to a Danish citizen who briefly worked in this country.


Working hard and trying to live honestly and withing the "Rules" and being a constructive member of society obviously doesnt' pay off anymore.....
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Postby CBBB » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:31 pm

bill cobbett wrote:No such thing as "free" healthcare or free anything else and so much for "isolations".

Someone has to pay for it. In the case of healthcare by progressive social insurance schemes.

Everyone should be treated equally. If there's a means test for "free" state healthcare, it should be applied fairly to all. Any unfair approach is challengeable in the Usual Courts.

Where does the "no question asked" racist, freebie approach end? ... Unemployment Benefits ? State Pensions ? .... For those on the take, take and more take, and who have contributed nothing to state insurance schemes?


The problem is Bill, that the only way we can verify that TC citizens of the RoC are eligible for free health care is by recognising documents issued by the pseudo-state, such as pseudo "Social Insurance" statements. Our government decided that rather than do this, all TCs are eligible.

Another point I noticed is that although they tell us how much it has cost over the last 6 years to look after TCs, nobody is telling us what percentage that is of the whole healthcare budget over that period.

I do understand the outrage people feel about this (including me, as somebody who has to pay), but I would still like a bit more information before deciding how outraged to be!
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:32 pm

Those who don’t pay taxes in the RoC should NOT have any entitlements!

Just throw out all gypsies…
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Postby DT. » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:32 pm

CBBB wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:No such thing as "free" healthcare or free anything else and so much for "isolations".

Someone has to pay for it. In the case of healthcare by progressive social insurance schemes.

Everyone should be treated equally. If there's a means test for "free" state healthcare, it should be applied fairly to all. Any unfair approach is challengeable in the Usual Courts.

Where does the "no question asked" racist, freebie approach end? ... Unemployment Benefits ? State Pensions ? .... For those on the take, take and more take, and who have contributed nothing to state insurance schemes?


The problem is Bill, that the only way we can verify that TC citizens of the RoC are eligible for free health care is by recognising documents issued by the pseudo-state, such as pseudo "Social Insurance" statements. Our government decided that rather than do this, all TCs are eligible.

Another point I noticed is that although they tell us how much it has cost over the last 6 years to look after TCs, nobody is telling us what percentage that is of the whole healthcare budget over that period.

I do understand the outrage people feel about this (including me, as somebody who has to pay), but I would still like a bit more information before deciding how outraged to be!


Poushtoengleze.... :roll: Requesting more information so as to determine how angry he should be :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby CBBB » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:38 pm

Get Real! wrote:Those who don’t pay taxes in the RoC should NOT have any entitlements!

Just throw out all gypsies…


It's those who don't earn enough to pay taxes that are entitled to free healthcare, like doctors, lawyers, accountants, etc.!!!!!!

Sorry, I forgot to mention the un-civil servants who do pay taxes, but not on their main business's they run when they are supposed to be serving the public!
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Postby Chara » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:49 pm

My husband is a Cypriot Born in the UK. Moved to cyprus 8 years. Did his army and was training to become a lawyer. I have been living here for 9 years and earn good money and pay high taxes and SI.

My husband has MS (He was diagnosed 4 years ago) and is currently suffering in a wheelchair. We get NO govt help. Every 2 years we have to reapply for a hospital card and my husband is means tested. He doesn't work, he can't! Yet he is means tested?

For me anyway it's not about the percentage of the budget or how much is spent on TC healthcare. My argument is why should my husband, who has done all that has been asked from him, have to PROVE that he is entitled to Free Healthcare?

I understand that the govt. doesn't want to accept TC docs to decide if they are entitled to HC or not, but then if they have documents proving that one of their citizens has a chronic illness, should the same curtesy not be extended to them? Why is My husband means tested and TC's are not?!!
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