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[bill cobbett]

To Outraged of Aglantsia ....

Those who want entitlements should be asked to contribute the normal monthly insurance to the Republic, all official, legal and nothing to do with Increasingly Isolated Tnucland Regime.

Those that don't should continue to put their faith in Turkey's Guarantees for their well-being and healthcare.

[EPSILON]

My husband is a Cypriot Born in the UK. Moved to cyprus 8 years. Did his army and was training to become a lawyer. I have been living here for 9 years and earn good money and pay high taxes and SI.

My husband has MS (He was diagnosed 4 years ago) and is currently suffering in a wheelchair. We get NO govt help. Every 2 years we have to reapply for a hospital card and my husband is means tested. He doesn't work, he can't! Yet he is means tested?

For me anyway it's not about the percentage of the budget or how much is spent on TC healthcare. My argument is why should my husband, who has done all that has been asked from him, have to PROVE that he is entitled to Free Healthcare?

I understand that the govt. doesn't want to accept TC docs to decide if they are entitled to HC or not, but then if they have documents proving that one of their citizens has a chronic illness, should the same curtesy not be extended to them? Why is My husband means tested and TC's are not?!!

Beacuse your husband was never an Ottoman protected person and most important he is not belonging to the most clever rase of Earth, the Turks.

[Gasman]

I can see why, if RoC insists it is all one Cyprus and they are the only government and all TCs and GCs are Cypriots, they are allowed to avail themselves of the healthcare offered by the legitimate government.

I take more issue with the ex pat Brit carpetbaggers who exist over there on 90 day visas, going back and forth, badmouthing all things GC and praying for the day they will be annexed to Turkey (a non EU country) while availing themselves of healthcare in the RoC under the European Health Care reciprocal scheme.

Talk about two faced. Sorry - but I think it is one of the worst examples of it. Far worse than them proclaiming to love the TRNC and their life there but coming over regularly to shop in Carrefour and IKEA and stocking up on the stuff they cannot find over there (which is quite a lot of stuff!) they profess to love this rogue state but don't put any money into it. And, if they don't live there full time but just use their homes there as holiday homes, they invariably fly into LCA because it is much cheaper.

[EricSeans]

I can see why, if RoC insists it is all one Cyprus and they are the only government and all TCs and GCs are Cypriots, they are allowed to avail themselves of the healthcare offered by the legitimate government.

I take more issue with the ex pat Brit carpetbaggers who exist over there on 90 day visas, going back and forth, badmouthing all things GC and praying for the day they will be annexed to Turkey (a non EU country) while availing themselves of healthcare in the RoC under the European Health Care reciprocal scheme.

Talk about two faced. Sorry - but I think it is one of the worst examples of it. Far worse than them proclaiming to love the TRNC and their life there but coming over regularly to shop in Carrefour and IKEA and stocking up on the stuff they cannot find over there (which is quite a lot of stuff!) they profess to love this rogue state but don't put any money into it. And, if they don't live there full time but just use their homes there as holiday homes, they invariably fly into LCA because it is much cheaper.

I couldn't agree more. It's blatant fraud and the crumblier the carpetbagger - which in many cases is pretty darned crumbly - the more likely they are to be a drain on the RoC health service. The Ministry of Health should consider spot checks along with police. Anyone suspected of residing in the north through car registrations, documentation or other intelligence should be treated as a suspected fraudster would in the UK and taken into custody if needs be to appear in court the next day.

[silverash]

The Ex pat brits over there are treading on very sticky ground now as the British health care system is clamping down on people living abroad .Computers in the UK health care system are now linked to the immigration system and if they suspect that you have been living abroad you can be made to sign a document saying you will pay the costs incurred before care is given .Lets not forget that health care in the UK is based on your residency in any 1 year,ie no more than 90 days per year and not where you pay your taxes.Why cant the health care system here in the ROC not adopt the same system.
Gasman I wonder if the businessmen in the ROC would agree with your sentiments and would like to see a ban put on any trade from the other side.Someone could no doubt enlighten us with the figures how much is spent.Sorry Chara this doesn't help your plight I hope your husband gets a better deal of the cards.

[silverash]

Should have made that a bit more clearer "No more than 90 days in anyone year out of the UK"

[Me Ed]

I say let them have it.

It will only go towards the goodwill demonstrated about the GCs of today and dispelling the myth spread by certain TCs that we actually want to butcher them.

[silverash]

So how would you deal with an Ex-brit living in a TC Title deed house.??

Perhaps in the UK we need to adopt your way of thinking for foreigners living abroad but using NHS facilities ??

Where do you get your treatment Eric ??

Remember its how long you live in the UK not where you pay your taxes ??

[cyprusgrump]

The Ex pat brits over there are treading on very sticky ground now as the British health care system is clamping down on people living abroad .Computers in the UK health care system are now linked to the immigration system and if they suspect that you have been living abroad you can be made to sign a document saying you will pay the costs incurred before care is given .Lets not forget that health care in the UK is based on your residency in any 1 year,ie no more than 90 days per year and not where you pay your taxes.Why cant the health care system here in the ROC not adopt the same system.
Gasman I wonder if the businessmen in the ROC would agree with your sentiments and would like to see a ban put on any trade from the other side.Someone could no doubt enlighten us with the figures how much is spent.Sorry Chara this doesn't help your plight I hope your husband gets a better deal of the cards.

[Gasman]

Yes, I too have wondered how the new rules being brought in early this year will affect the ex pat Brits in the North.

I believe one of the changes is going to be that, instead of you carrying a UK issued EHIC to receive essential medical treatment here in Cyprus under the reciprocal scheme, if you are out of the UK for more than 3 months you now have to get an EHIC From the country you are residing in (i.e. Cyprus) and use that if you want to avail yourself of NHS treatment in the UK.

Of course I can't see how any of this affects those living in TRNC but claiming their treatment in RoC?

The ones it will affect are those who spend part of the year in TRNC (more than 3 months). I suppose, if they have any sense, they will make sure they have pukka private cover.

It is a difficult one, while RoC maintains its stance as being the govt for the whole island, but the fact is that some of these Brits are OPTING to live 'outside the EU' (and proclaiming loudly that they'd prefer to live outside the EU) whilst at the same time availing themselves of the benefits of being in 'another EU Country' based on the RoC (where they do not consider they are) being in the EU.

When I go to Egypt, I am outside the EU and not able to use the EHIC scheme and I know it. Thing is, would so many of them happily have settled in any other NON EU country? I somehow doubt it.

Lots of them keep calling for the crossings to be closed again. I think ex pat Brits would be the worse affected if they were. Would be interesting to see then how popular a destination it was and how many of them would be happy to stay there if they could not fly into and out of the South, could not cross over for shops and health care, etc.

Reminds me of Americans and Cuba. Not allowed to travel there, not supposed to buy any goods from there and so on. All they do is fly out to the Caribbean first and go from there!

I wonder just how much incentive there is for those in the North to want any unification while some of them appear to have the best of both worlds.