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[DT.]

Like I said I am posting from a mobile but will pick this up tonight and explian all my points bur until then why don't you guys suggest compromises to rmove guarntorship- which remember is a huge red line for us- maybe the same kind of consession as you granting independance to the trnc as a seperate state which as I understand is something alot of you will never do or do under extremely favourable circumstances - well that is how we feel about our guarentor.

If you're not ready to let go of outside interference in your own country then perhaps you're not ready to come out of isolation yet.

[EPSILON]

Its the GCs that have put a spanner in The works to end the talks not the TCs you need to question your own motives as to why sucu a step was taken so late in the stage of the negotiations.

For the simple reason you will need other 3 generations before you understand/accept a democratic state.

[DTA]

Like I said I am posting from a mobile but will pick this up tonight and explian all my points bur until then why don't you guys suggest compromises to rmove guarntorship- which remember is a huge red line for us- maybe the same kind of consession as you granting independance to the trnc as a seperate state which as I understand is something alot of you will never do or do under extremely favourable circumstances - well that is how we feel about our guarentor.

If you're not ready to let go of outside interference in your own country then perhaps you're not ready to come out of isolation yet.

that is a complete disreguard to our feelings about guarentors, I want the guarentor to remain but was asked what it would take for me to allow this not to happen. You don't like my suggestions, fine make some of your own otherwise why would the tcs give up one of their if not their biggest red line.

Like I said make some suggestions

[DT.]

Like I said I am posting from a mobile but will pick this up tonight and explian all my points bur until then why don't you guys suggest compromises to rmove guarntorship- which remember is a huge red line for us- maybe the same kind of consession as you granting independance to the trnc as a seperate state which as I understand is something alot of you will never do or do under extremely favourable circumstances - well that is how we feel about our guarentor.

If you're not ready to let go of outside interference in your own country then perhaps you're not ready to come out of isolation yet.

that is a complete disreguard to our feelings about guarentors, I want the guarentor to remain but was asked what it would take for me to allow this not to happen. You don't like my suggestions, fine make some of your own otherwise why would the tcs give up one of their if not their biggest red line.

Like I said make some suggestions

DTA, I have made a suggestion. If 80,000 people are not ready to live in a country free of outside meddling then I do not see why 800,000 should live in a country WITH outside meddling.

[DTA]

No compromise from you equals no compromise from us. So fine.

[BirKibrisli]

so you are the problem not us

No you are the risk thats why guaratees are necessary you are not to be trusted

VP, the only guarantees and securities you will ever need to be safe in Cyprus from the revenge seeking GCs, is to have a Swiss girlfriend to protect you. It worked for me when I went to the RoC couple of years ago, therefore it is "bullet proof" to work for you and for all TCs. I'm sure both you and Bir will attest to the above suggestion as being very real.!

Now you are talking!!!
I will go along with your suggestion,Kikapu,if you guarantee every TC a Swiss girl/boyfriend!! No,your guarantee will not be good enough,I want the EU and the UN to guarantee every TC a personal Swiss bodyguard of the opposite sex!!! I knew we would get there if we talked long enough....

[SKI-preo]

Solution has been predicted to occur "by default" in some recent articles.google Cyprus & by default" I'm too busy. Greek Cypriots have a responsibility to earn Turkish Cypriot trust and cooperation. This is not because of blame or who did what to who. It is simply a duty that comes with being a larger portion of the population. Smaller populations will become radicalized and focus on division if they are not offered genuine incentives to cooperate. 1960's Cyprus was too primitive and Levantine to understand the benefits of affirmative action. If Cypriots realized the benefits of winning support and cooperation from all components of the the population I would still be in Kyrenia and there would be no subterfuge Turkey could have used to napalm my all Greekcypriot town. I feel that the public and private sector must be encouraged even obligated to hire/appoint Turkish Cypriots to senior roles. There should be a large number of scholarships for Turkish Cypriots to study at internationally recognized Cypriot Tertiary Institutions. Other good will gestures are required but hopefully you get my point. I would go so far as to provide Turkish Cypriots who wish to work/live in the free areas rent free homes if they can fill skills shortages in regional areas.If it became law that every political party had to appoint at least a number of Turkish Cypriots to senior roles then they would have a reason to cooperate and trust us. In Singapore, political parties must be made up of the ethnic groups represented on the island nation. Even though Singapore is not exactly the most shining example of democracy Cypriots could learn from this multicultural but ridiculously wealthy little island nation and I am not talking about the fantastic Ka-Tong Singapore Laksa. In some ways Cyprus has fewer challenges when you consider the make up of other countries.

[DTA]

Solution has been predicted to occur "by default" in some recent articles.google Cyprus & by default" I'm too busy. Greek Cypriots have a responsibility to earn Turkish Cypriot trust and cooperation. This is not because of blame or who did what to who. It is simply a duty that comes with being a larger portion of the population. Smaller populations will become radicalized and focus on division if they are not offered genuine incentives to cooperate. 1960's Cyprus was too primitive and Levantine to understand the benefits of affirmative action. If Cypriots realized the benefits of winning support and cooperation from all components of the the population I would still be in Kyrenia and there would be no subterfuge Turkey could have used to napalm my all Greekcypriot town. I feel that the public and private sector must be encouraged even obligated to hire/appoint Turkish Cypriots to senior roles. There should be a large number of scholarships for Turkish Cypriots to study at internationally recognized Cypriot Tertiary Institutions. Other good will gestures are required but hopefully you get my point. I would go so far as to provide Turkish Cypriots who wish to work/live in the free areas rent free homes if they can fill skills shortages in regional areas.If it became law that every political party had to appoint at least a number of Turkish Cypriots to senior roles then they would have a reason to cooperate and trust us. In Singapore, political parties must be made up of the ethnic groups represented on the island nation. Even though Singapore is not exactly the most shining example of democracy Cypriots could learn from this multicultural but ridiculously wealthy little island nation and I am not talking about the fantastic Ka-Tong Singapore Laksa. In some ways Cyprus has fewer challenges when you consider the make up of other countries.

Good post. I am sorry for any losses you have had

[EPSILON]

Solution has been predicted to occur "by default" in some recent articles.google Cyprus & by default" I'm too busy. Greek Cypriots have a responsibility to earn Turkish Cypriot trust and cooperation. This is not because of blame or who did what to who. It is simply a duty that comes with being a larger portion of the population. Smaller populations will become radicalized and focus on division if they are not offered genuine incentives to cooperate. 1960's Cyprus was too primitive and Levantine to understand the benefits of affirmative action. If Cypriots realized the benefits of winning support and cooperation from all components of the the population I would still be in Kyrenia and there would be no subterfuge Turkey could have used to napalm my all Greekcypriot town. I feel that the public and private sector must be encouraged even obligated to hire/appoint Turkish Cypriots to senior roles. There should be a large number of scholarships for Turkish Cypriots to study at internationally recognized Cypriot Tertiary Institutions. Other good will gestures are required but hopefully you get my point. I would go so far as to provide Turkish Cypriots who wish to work/live in the free areas rent free homes if they can fill skills shortages in regional areas.If it became law that every political party had to appoint at least a number of Turkish Cypriots to senior roles then they would have a reason to cooperate and trust us. In Singapore, political parties must be made up of the ethnic groups represented on the island nation. Even though Singapore is not exactly the most shining example of democracy Cypriots could learn from this multicultural but ridiculously wealthy little island nation and I am not talking about the fantastic Ka-Tong Singapore Laksa. In some ways Cyprus has fewer challenges when you consider the make up of other countries.

If you want me to give you fair and reasonable solutions for Afghanistan or Iraq or Iran, believe me you will be surprised by my logic.But , my friend, Cyprus is my homeland and logic is sereously been affected by my personal life and experiances . Pls therefore put aside what you thing logical and right and start to investigate what is FAIR!!!!

[DT.]

No compromise from you equals no compromise from us. So fine.

fine!