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Postby fwnh » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:37 am

its' clear enough... both statements are clear enough but when you put them together they are far from...

Because what you say 'stays' on this forum you have to adress your saying with seriousness and honesty otherwise people like me will manipulate them even if its with good intensions and use them against you. If you are sensire and strongly feel that your opinion is !pure! you will not be put in this situation again
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Postby DTA » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:28 am

fwnh wrote:its' clear enough... both statements are clear enough but when you put them together they are far from...

Because what you say 'stays' on this forum you have to adress your saying with seriousness and honesty otherwise people like me will manipulate them even if its with good intensions and use them against you. If you are sensire and strongly feel that your opinion is !pure! you will not be put in this situation again


I think you are reasonable, but you are not really offering us anything in terms of compromise, all you are doing is repeating your point of view that we (the TC) dont need protection, well that is not the view of the TC. And if we are to be brothers once more you need to think of our views, wants, desires and fears as equal to yours.

I believe that you are being genuine and you want us to live together again as brothers, and if all GC were like you then maybe there would never have been any problems in the first place.

While you are reasonable there are other GC who arn't, just look at Oracle and Get real, amongst many others in this forum

So I will ask you again - what is your idea of an acceptable compromise and remember this is such huge issue to the TC so your compromise must be huge as well?
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Postby fwnh » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:00 am

an acceptable compromise on regarding safety... It's for your own safety, why do you want me to offer you a compromise?! this is why i have been repeating myself, because my argument has been repeatedly countered with the same thing... 'We don't trust you'... why do you want me to find a solution to that problem then? so you can reject it again?
If you really feel threated lets find a point to start talking on... if i just come up with ideas in my mind it would definately be one-sided.
I start with this then...
Do you feel you need security as a person? that gc's will attack you because you are tc? or as a community, that tc's will be targeted as one and attacked?
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Postby DTA » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:14 am

fwnh wrote:an acceptable compromise on regarding safety... It's for your own safety, why do you want me to offer you a compromise?! this is why i have been repeating myself, because my argument has been repeatedly countered with the same thing... 'We don't trust you'... why do you want me to find a solution to that problem then? so you can reject it again?
If you really feel threated lets find a point to start talking on... if i just come up with ideas in my mind it would definately be one-sided.
I start with this then...
Do you feel you need security as a person? that gc's will attack you because you are tc? or as a community, that tc's will be targeted as one and attacked?


I Assume it would be TC as a community as obviously at some point I am sure there will be issolated individual incidences which should be handled and severely by the law... However that is a point in itself I have heard that there is a high level of nationalism with GC police (would you say this is true).... this may be the case as well with TC police.
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Re: If no solution is found... what's next?

Postby free_cyprus » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:16 am

georgios100 wrote:In case the current negotiations fail to produce a solution, what's to happen next?

Is this good news or bad news?

Any predictions for the future of the island?

Georgios100


they should put me in charge of the negotiations i can solve Cyprus problem in one single session
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Postby apc2010 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:19 am

Is it a big bomb?
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Postby fwnh » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:23 am

DTA wrote:
fwnh wrote:an acceptable compromise on regarding safety... It's for your own safety, why do you want me to offer you a compromise?! this is why i have been repeating myself, because my argument has been repeatedly countered with the same thing... 'We don't trust you'... why do you want me to find a solution to that problem then? so you can reject it again?
If you really feel threated lets find a point to start talking on... if i just come up with ideas in my mind it would definately be one-sided.
I start with this then...
Do you feel you need security as a person? that gc's will attack you because you are tc? or as a community, that tc's will be targeted as one and attacked?


I Assume it would be TC as a community as obviously at some point I am sure there will be issolated individual incidences which should be handled and severely by the law... However that is a point in itself I have heard that there is a high level of nationalism with GC police (would you say this is true).... this may be the case as well with TC police.


Yes i would say there is a high level of nationalism with GC police, however i can only assume that 'patriots' like them would not apply for a position in a central goverment police force that employes both TC's and GC's and i think it will be only logical that (for example) 2 GC policemen would not enter the north state by themselves (that is not accompanied by a TC policeman)
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Re: If no solution is found... what's next?

Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:23 am

free_cyprus wrote:
georgios100 wrote:In case the current negotiations fail to produce a solution, what's to happen next?

Is this good news or bad news?

Any predictions for the future of the island?

Georgios100


they should put me in charge of the negotiations i can solve Cyprus problem in one single session

They’d have a problem figuring out what you’re on about and throw you out the room! :lol:
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Re: If no solution is found... what's next?

Postby free_cyprus » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:28 am

Get Real! wrote:
free_cyprus wrote:
georgios100 wrote:In case the current negotiations fail to produce a solution, what's to happen next?

Is this good news or bad news?

Any predictions for the future of the island?

Georgios100


they should put me in charge of the negotiations i can solve Cyprus problem in one single session

They’d have a problem figuring out what you’re on about and throw you out the room! :lol:


they might throw me out from the room for making suggestions that they cannot even think themselves ....but the funny thing is at least i get to be there and say my peace .......................but you get real they wont even let you near the building lol
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Postby DTA » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:29 am

fwnh wrote:
DTA wrote:
fwnh wrote:an acceptable compromise on regarding safety... It's for your own safety, why do you want me to offer you a compromise?! this is why i have been repeating myself, because my argument has been repeatedly countered with the same thing... 'We don't trust you'... why do you want me to find a solution to that problem then? so you can reject it again?
If you really feel threated lets find a point to start talking on... if i just come up with ideas in my mind it would definately be one-sided.
I start with this then...
Do you feel you need security as a person? that gc's will attack you because you are tc? or as a community, that tc's will be targeted as one and attacked?


I Assume it would be TC as a community as obviously at some point I am sure there will be issolated individual incidences which should be handled and severely by the law... However that is a point in itself I have heard that there is a high level of nationalism with GC police (would you say this is true).... this may be the case as well with TC police.


Yes i would say there is a high level of nationalism with GC police, however i can only assume that 'patriots' like them would not apply for a position in a central goverment police force that employes both TC's and GC's and i think it will be only logical that (for example) 2 GC policemen would not enter the north state by themselves (that is not accompanied by a TC policeman)


Policing I think will be an issue to be hones,t and we must work very hard to make sure that it is absolutely clear that any police abusing their position on both sides will be dealt in the most severe manner.

The police must not only be absolutely fair for both side but they must be seen as being completely fair.


but anyway back to your question, safety as a community.
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