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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:27 pm

fwnh wrote:
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fwnh wrote:so you are the problem not us


No you are the risk thats why guaratees are necessary you are not to be trusted


then why do you wanna live with us?


who Said we do?
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Postby fwnh » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:28 pm

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fwnh wrote:and this is how it will be reflected in the EU.. so in the end you don't get what you want , which is to remove the embargo at the north and i don't get what i want which is to free my country


We are prepared to take that risk as the alternative is not possible.


i see... you are just another hardliner just from the other side, no matter how many arguments or nagotiations we bring forward your stance will not change because what you trully want is what lays behind your statement of fear and thet turkey should be a guarantor, which is for Turkey to be able to interfere with the state's politics and affairs.

you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem

this is how i see you and i hope you can take it as it is
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Postby fwnh » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:29 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
fwnh wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
fwnh wrote:so you are the problem not us


No you are the risk thats why guaratees are necessary you are not to be trusted


then why do you wanna live with us?


who Said we do?


then your negotiations was a farse :lol: THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING
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Postby YFred » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:29 pm

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fwnh wrote:WE DO NOT NEED GUARANTORS

Don't worry,you don't have to have them. We are not forcing you to have them. Get who ever you want. But please don't start telling us who we can hav and who we cannot. We an make our own minds on the matter.
You see, I am not that unreasonable, am I?


keyword = WE.... as in me and you

if i was expecting you to post someone else's thoughts i would not be posting in the first place, its your opinion i wanna hear... so far your only argument on the subject is that you fear for your safety, and i tell you that you do not have to fear for X amount of reasons....

OK lets have a go from a different angle shall we. You can have any guarantor you want mainly EU. However when you start telling me what I should have, that's when things fall appart. There is no we and has not been whilst the GCs been suffocating and still are suffocating the TCs with love. Let's get to the stage where we can stand on our own two feet and then we can start negotiating about guarantors and such like. In the mean time we have far more urgent matters to consider like how we are going to feed our families. But before you start saying that Turkey feeds us just consider the people who are not part of the civil service which get no handouts from anybody.
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Postby fwnh » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:29 pm

be sure to remember your own words when they ask 'Who broke the negotiations'!
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:30 pm

no vp is for re uniting the land if the terms are right, even for having turkey as a garantore for X amount of years i think thats fair to both sides, both get what they want, army police schools would be a tuff one to decide what to do with
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Postby fwnh » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:32 pm

YFred wrote:
fwnh wrote:
YFred wrote:
fwnh wrote:WE DO NOT NEED GUARANTORS

Don't worry,you don't have to have them. We are not forcing you to have them. Get who ever you want. But please don't start telling us who we can hav and who we cannot. We an make our own minds on the matter.
You see, I am not that unreasonable, am I?


keyword = WE.... as in me and you

if i was expecting you to post someone else's thoughts i would not be posting in the first place, its your opinion i wanna hear... so far your only argument on the subject is that you fear for your safety, and i tell you that you do not have to fear for X amount of reasons....

OK lets have a go from a different angle shall we. You can have any guarantor you want mainly EU. However when you start telling me what I should have, that's when things fall appart. There is no we and has not been whilst the GCs been suffocating and still are suffocating the TCs with love. Let's get to the stage where we can stand on our own two feet and then we can start negotiating about guarantors and such like. In the mean time we have far more urgent matters to consider like how we are going to feed our families. But before you start saying that Turkey feeds us just consider the people who are not part of the civil service which get no handouts from anybody.


but i don't want a guarantor, ANY guarantor!! i wanna be a free man that can cast its vote freely without anyone interfering or dictating my elected officials what to do
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:33 pm

fwnh wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
fwnh wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
fwnh wrote:so you are the problem not us


No you are the risk thats why guaratees are necessary you are not to be trusted


then why do you wanna live with us?


who Said we do?


then your negotiations was a farse :lol: THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING


we are talking BBF as backed by the un which is not what you consider living together
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Postby fwnh » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:34 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
fwnh wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
fwnh wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
fwnh wrote:so you are the problem not us


No you are the risk thats why guaratees are necessary you are not to be trusted


then why do you wanna live with us?


who Said we do?


then your negotiations was a farse :lol: THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING


we are talking BBF as backed by the un which is not what you consider living together


ofcourse it is because i will buy a house right next to you and live their for ever!! and so will my grandchildren
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Postby fwnh » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:37 pm

YFred wrote:
fwnh wrote:
YFred wrote:
fwnh wrote:WE DO NOT NEED GUARANTORS

Don't worry,you don't have to have them. We are not forcing you to have them. Get who ever you want. But please don't start telling us who we can hav and who we cannot. We an make our own minds on the matter.
You see, I am not that unreasonable, am I?


keyword = WE.... as in me and you

if i was expecting you to post someone else's thoughts i would not be posting in the first place, its your opinion i wanna hear... so far your only argument on the subject is that you fear for your safety, and i tell you that you do not have to fear for X amount of reasons....

OK lets have a go from a different angle shall we. You can have any guarantor you want mainly EU. However when you start telling me what I should have, that's when things fall appart. There is no we and has not been whilst the GCs been suffocating and still are suffocating the TCs with love. Let's get to the stage where we can stand on our own two feet and then we can start negotiating about guarantors and such like. In the mean time we have far more urgent matters to consider like how we are going to feed our families. But before you start saying that Turkey feeds us just consider the people who are not part of the civil service which get no handouts from anybody.


... the fact that you cannot stand on your own two feet is why turkey is allowing you to negotiate a solution to the problem... remember?
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