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[YFred]

Except a few greedy lawyers and die-hard nationalists on both sides,the present economic and social problems will deteriorate and more and more Cypriots will go abroad in hope of a better future on both sides of the dividing line!The worse-case scenario will become reality......
Let's try to dwell on the optimstic one instead,while there is still time?

What? Cyprus isn't some developing nation where people have to leave to "find a better future". In case you missed it CYprus is a destination for 1000's of legal and illegal immigrants looking for a better future.

Don't compare what is happening in the isolated occupied territories with what is happening in an EU state.

DT everyone who has been to the south can say with certainty that it aint all that if you think the TRNC is bad then your side is to far away, national figures are very misleading as the Greeks can confirm.

Then why are you willing to give up your "state" in exchange for a lifting of this isolation?

If things are not too bad, then what exactly is the reason talat is in talks right now?

I know why we're at the table, we want our land back and for this country to be re-unified...what are you doing there?

Becasue it is better and more profitable to live in peace with your neighbour than than at war.
Because Talat is a decent man and would like to resolve to problem to most people's satisfaction.
You are selfish and blind to the facts distorting anything and averything to suit your fascistic mentality.

[londoner]

Except a few greedy lawyers and die-hard nationalists on both sides,the present economic and social problems will deteriorate and more and more Cypriots will go abroad in hope of a better future on both sides of the dividing line!The worse-case scenario will become reality......
Let's try to dwell on the optimstic one instead,while there is still time?

What? Cyprus isn't some developing nation where people have to leave to "find a better future". In case you missed it CYprus is a destination for 1000's of legal and illegal immigrants looking for a better future.

Don't compare what is happening in the isolated occupied territories with what is happening in an EU state.

DT everyone who has been to the south can say with certainty that it aint all that if you think the TRNC is bad then your side is to far away, national figures are very misleading as the Greeks can confirm.

Then why are you willing to give up your "state" in exchange for a lifting of this isolation?

If things are not too bad, then what exactly is the reason talat is in talks right now?.

Both communities have lost land and homes - its a falsehood to claim anything else.

[Malapapa]

Except a few greedy lawyers and die-hard nationalists on both sides,the present economic and social problems will deteriorate and more and more Cypriots will go abroad in hope of a better future on both sides of the dividing line!The worse-case scenario will become reality......
Let's try to dwell on the optimstic one instead,while there is still time?

What? Cyprus isn't some developing nation where people have to leave to "find a better future". In case you missed it CYprus is a destination for 1000's of legal and illegal immigrants looking for a better future.

Don't compare what is happening in the isolated occupied territories with what is happening in an EU state.

DT everyone who has been to the south can say with certainty that it aint all that if you think the TRNC is bad then your side is to far away, national figures are very misleading as the Greeks can confirm.

Then why are you willing to give up your "state" in exchange for a lifting of this isolation?

If things are not too bad, then what exactly is the reason talat is in talks right now?

I know why we're at the table, we want our land back and for this country to be re-unified...what are you doing there?

Becasue it is better and more profitable to live in peace with your neighbour than than at war.

Now that it's no longer profitable to 'sell' your neighbour's stolen land to trespassers? If you want peace, give your neighbour his land back. Otherwise your neighbour is going to court and, only after he's had satisfaction will you have peace.

Because Talat is a decent man and would like to resolve to problem to most people's satisfaction.

A decent man who rather than accept and then reciprocate the gesture of goodwill that Christofias made with his apology, through it back in his face.

You are selfish and blind to the facts distorting anything and averything to suit your fascistic mentality.

You're just nuts.

[YFred]

Except a few greedy lawyers and die-hard nationalists on both sides,the present economic and social problems will deteriorate and more and more Cypriots will go abroad in hope of a better future on both sides of the dividing line!The worse-case scenario will become reality......
Let's try to dwell on the optimstic one instead,while there is still time?

What? Cyprus isn't some developing nation where people have to leave to "find a better future". In case you missed it CYprus is a destination for 1000's of legal and illegal immigrants looking for a better future.

Don't compare what is happening in the isolated occupied territories with what is happening in an EU state.

DT everyone who has been to the south can say with certainty that it aint all that if you think the TRNC is bad then your side is to far away, national figures are very misleading as the Greeks can confirm.

Then why are you willing to give up your "state" in exchange for a lifting of this isolation?

If things are not too bad, then what exactly is the reason talat is in talks right now?

I know why we're at the table, we want our land back and for this country to be re-unified...what are you doing there?

Becasue it is better and more profitable to live in peace with your neighbour than than at war.

Now that it's no longer profitable to 'sell' your neighbour's stolen land to trespassers? If you want peace, give your neighbour his land back. Otherwise your neighbour is going to court and, only after he's had satisfaction will you have peace.

Because Talat is a decent man and would like to resolve to problem to most people's satisfaction.

A decent man who rather than accept and then reciprocate the gesture of goodwill that Christofias made with his apology, through it back in his face.

You are selfish and blind to the facts distorting anything and averything to suit your fascistic mentality.

You're just nuts.

Mal please, I am allergic to nuts, so cannot be nuts? you mentioning it and I start itching, Get it?

[Viewpoint]

İ would like to add that our loses of land and homes started much earlier but it only becomes important when the losses are gc losses this must tell you how racist you people really are.

With regards to DTs question of why we are at the table i thought this was obviously but ill repeat for those of you who have great difficulty understanding us, we are there for a solution which is also supported by the UN which is a BBF with political equality of the two states, but all we can see so far is the same old tactics of the gc side of trying to impose their own set of semanda which Will give them the upper hand they so long for, their constamtics tactics of trying to alter the parameters is well known by the world the last imposition being their insulting move to weaken their leaders hand when negotiating such an important issue as guarantees. Önce again they have been successful in taking the Wind out of the sales of a possible solution.

[YFred]

İ would like to add that our loses of land and homes started much earlier but it only becomes important when the losses are gc losses this must tell you how racist you people really are.

With regards to DTs question of why we are at the table i thought this was obviously but ill repeat for those of you who have great difficulty understanding us, we are there for a solution which is also supported by the UN which is a BBF with political equality of the two states, but all we can see so far is the same old tactics of the gc side of trying to impose their own set of semanda which Will give them the upper hand they so long for, their constamtics tactics of trying to alter the parameters is well known by the world the last imposition being their insulting move to weaken their leaders hand when negotiating such an important issue as guarantees. Önce again they have been successful in taking the Wind out of the sales of a possible solution.

Does anybody have any figures of percentage of lost by TCs and GCs in 63?

[BirKibrisli]

We must never stop communicating, we must stop co-operating.

The generation that put cyprus in its current state will go down in history as the half-witted generation of shame.

As long as you buffoons are alive there will be no solution.

The solution will only come about by the generations to come and not the idiots that caused that created the problem in the first place.

I don't believe the cyprob will be solve in my lifetime, and will be solved when the generation of shame is long gone.

Curiously was thinking about this just this afternoon Me Ed.

Came up with ... one generation contributed to it, the next generation was too traumatised by it to do anything about it, so perhaps it falls to the next perhaps more educated, perhaps more articulate generation to come to a settlement.

In any event, yes, perhaps a generational thing.

Where is this more educated ,more articulate generation going to come from,Bill??? Out of the internet age???The generation growing up on computer games,Nintendos and Play stations know only two things: Violence and aggression...They couldn't write or speak a proper sentence,let alone think realistically....If our generation cannot solve it,forget it...The status qou will be the permanent solution,agreed or not...

Bir,

Your ludricous comments above confirm why your generation will never solve the cyprob.

You dismiss the younger generation as dumb, but its your generation that f*cked cyprus up.

You really think your older and wiser? No, step aside, with your baggage and outmoded thoughts, to those of us who are more amenable to a solution.

And what solution would that be...??? The status quo...???
And you are wrong about my generation...I was not even a teenager in 1963...My generation is the one who sufered most from the stupidity of the generation before ours...We were not even allowed to be children...They stole our innocents and our future...And your generation could not even agree on why we are in the mess we are in...How will you solve anything if you are not even prepared to realistically analyse what went wrong...You are in your computer-age-induced false sense of self-aggrandisement...You fail to see you have been passified,your thinking capacity reduced by the gadgets you grew up with...I am not sure why I bother talking to you...you are not capable of understanding what I am talking about...

[bill cobbett]

We must never stop communicating, we must stop co-operating.

The generation that put cyprus in its current state will go down in history as the half-witted generation of shame.

As long as you buffoons are alive there will be no solution.

The solution will only come about by the generations to come and not the idiots that caused that created the problem in the first place.

I don't believe the cyprob will be solve in my lifetime, and will be solved when the generation of shame is long gone.

Curiously was thinking about this just this afternoon Me Ed.

Came up with ... one generation contributed to it, the next generation was too traumatised by it to do anything about it, so perhaps it falls to the next perhaps more educated, perhaps more articulate generation to come to a settlement.

In any event, yes, perhaps a generational thing.

Where is this more educated ,more articulate generation going to come from,Bill??? Out of the internet age???The generation growing up on computer games,Nintendos and Play stations know only two things: Violence and aggression...They couldn't write or speak a proper sentence,let alone think realistically....If our generation cannot solve it,forget it...The status qou will be the permanent solution,agreed or not...

Bir,

Your ludricous comments above confirm why your generation will never solve the cyprob.

You dismiss the younger generation as dumb, but its your generation that f*cked cyprus up.

You really think your older and wiser? No, step aside, with your baggage and outmoded thoughts, to those of us who are more amenable to a solution.

And what solution would that be...??? The status quo...???
And you are wrong about my generation...I was not even a teenager in 1963...My generation is the one who sufered most from the stupidity of the generation before ours...We were not even allowed to be children...They stole our innocents and our future...And your generation could not even agree on why we are in the mess we are in...How will you solve anything if you are not even prepared to realistically analyse what went wrong...You are in your computer-age-induced false sense of self-aggrandisement...You fail to see you have been passified,your thinking capacity reduced by the gadgets you grew up with...I am not sure why I bother talking to you...you are not capable of understanding what I am talking about...

Really Bir, am very disappointed to read of your pessimism, and over-generalisation of the younger generation.

[bill cobbett]

İ would like to add that our loses of land and homes started much earlier but it only becomes important when the losses are gc losses this must tell you how racist you people really are.

With regards to DTs question of why we are at the table i thought this was obviously but ill repeat for those of you who have great difficulty understanding us, we are there for a solution which is also supported by the UN which is a BBF with political equality of the two states, but all we can see so far is the same old tactics of the gc side of trying to impose their own set of semanda which Will give them the upper hand they so long for, their constamtics tactics of trying to alter the parameters is well known by the world the last imposition being their insulting move to weaken their leaders hand when negotiating such an important issue as guarantees. Önce again they have been successful in taking the Wind out of the sales of a possible solution.

As ever VP, you home in on those aspects of the UN Parameters which it suits you to do, with your devious interpretations to suit. You choose to turn a blind eye to All the Other UN Parameters which don't suit, those where you can't offer your ludicrous misinterpretations.

When are you turning up at the talks within all the UN Parameters??????

[Viewpoint]

İ would like to add that our loses of land and homes started much earlier but it only becomes important when the losses are gc losses this must tell you how racist you people really are.

With regards to DTs question of why we are at the table i thought this was obviously but ill repeat for those of you who have great difficulty understanding us, we are there for a solution which is also supported by the UN which is a BBF with political equality of the two states, but all we can see so far is the same old tactics of the gc side of trying to impose their own set of semanda which Will give them the upper hand they so long for, their constamtics tactics of trying to alter the parameters is well known by the world the last imposition being their insulting move to weaken their leaders hand when negotiating such an important issue as guarantees. Önce again they have been successful in taking the Wind out of the sales of a possible solution.

As ever VP, you home in on those aspects of the UN Parameters which it suits you to do, with your devious interpretations to suit. You choose to turn a blind eye to All the Other UN Parameters which don't suit, those where you can't offer your ludicrous misinterpretations.

When are you turning up at the talks within all the UN Parameters??????

They are all on the table but if you continously try to chnage the agenda by taking decisions that ties your leaders hands behins his back then that makes a mockery of negotiating in goodfaith just as was the case with Papadielostopolous.