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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby BirKibrisli » Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:55 am

GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
Gasman wrote:The article did not mention WHY Czechoslovakia split into two separate states or make comparisons. Just said that Cyprus could become the same - two separate states.

And I am not responsible for what other countries print in their news about Cyprus. But it is obvious from a quick google that quite a lot of other countries are saying stuff along the same lines.

Cypriots seem to imagine the rest of the world should be interested. Then, when there is any mention of the problem (unless it is condemning Turkey which it isn't very often) they just dismiss it!


Czechoslavakia is completly different to the situation in Cyrpus. Why bother posting crap like this when it has no relevance.


Cyprus has been invaded by Turkey 200,000 people have been force to quit their home by the rasist TC's and Turks.

If you cant understand the differnce then you are an idiot. Do you believe by posting shit like thats its going to make the rest of the world change its mind about the puppet state you have created.


Here is something relevant...During the 1963/64 intercommunal "troubles" 35,000 Turkish Cypriots became refugees...They left their homes and sought shelter in safer TC enclaves because they felt their lives were in danger from their compatriot GCs...
With a few notable exceptions no GC ever talks about this unless to try to justify it blaming it on the TMT pressure...It seems that in most GC minds 1974 is modern history while 1963 is ancient... :)
I know it is painful but I will keep reminding you of all the realities of Cyprus,not just the selective ones you want to remember... :twisted:
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:14 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
Gasman wrote:The article did not mention WHY Czechoslovakia split into two separate states or make comparisons. Just said that Cyprus could become the same - two separate states.

And I am not responsible for what other countries print in their news about Cyprus. But it is obvious from a quick google that quite a lot of other countries are saying stuff along the same lines.

Cypriots seem to imagine the rest of the world should be interested. Then, when there is any mention of the problem (unless it is condemning Turkey which it isn't very often) they just dismiss it!


Czechoslavakia is completly different to the situation in Cyrpus. Why bother posting crap like this when it has no relevance.


Cyprus has been invaded by Turkey 200,000 people have been force to quit their home by the rasist TC's and Turks.

If you cant understand the differnce then you are an idiot. Do you believe by posting shit like thats its going to make the rest of the world change its mind about the puppet state you have created.


Here is something relevant...During the 1963/64 intercommunal "troubles" 35,000 Turkish Cypriots became refugees...They left their homes and sought shelter in safer TC enclaves because they felt their lives were in danger from their compatriot GCs...
With a few notable exceptions no GC ever talks about this unless to try to justify it blaming it on the TMT pressure...It seems that in most GC minds 1974 is modern history while 1963 is ancient... :)
I know it is painful but I will keep reminding you of all the realities of Cyprus,not just the selective ones you want to remember... :twisted:

Time you started paying attention to some of the self confessions on here...

I owe my exile to Australia to the TMT more than the EOKA...
This does not mean that TMT did nothing good for the TCs...or that all members were murderous thugs...


http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus11396-10.html
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Postby Me Ed » Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:47 am

We must never stop communicating, we must stop co-operating.

The generation that put cyprus in its current state will go down in history as the half-witted generation of shame.

As long as you buffoons are alive there will be no solution.

The solution will only come about by the generations to come and not the idiots that caused that created the problem in the first place.

I don't believe the cyprob will be solve in my lifetime, and will be solved when the generation of shame is long gone.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:54 am

Me Ed wrote:We must never stop communicating, we must stop co-operating.

The generation that put cyprus in its current state will go down in history as the half-witted generation of shame.

As long as you buffoons are alive there will be no solution.

The solution will only come about by the generations to come and not the idiots that caused that created the problem in the first place.

I don't believe the cyprob will be solve in my lifetime, and will be solved when the generation of shame is long gone.


Curiously was thinking about this just this afternoon Me Ed.

Came up with ... one generation contributed to it, the next generation was too traumatised by it to do anything about it, so perhaps it falls to the next perhaps more educated, perhaps more articulate generation to come to a settlement.

In any event, yes, perhaps a generational thing.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:18 am

Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
Gasman wrote:The article did not mention WHY Czechoslovakia split into two separate states or make comparisons. Just said that Cyprus could become the same - two separate states.

And I am not responsible for what other countries print in their news about Cyprus. But it is obvious from a quick google that quite a lot of other countries are saying stuff along the same lines.

Cypriots seem to imagine the rest of the world should be interested. Then, when there is any mention of the problem (unless it is condemning Turkey which it isn't very often) they just dismiss it!


Czechoslavakia is completly different to the situation in Cyrpus. Why bother posting crap like this when it has no relevance.


Cyprus has been invaded by Turkey 200,000 people have been force to quit their home by the rasist TC's and Turks.

If you cant understand the differnce then you are an idiot. Do you believe by posting shit like thats its going to make the rest of the world change its mind about the puppet state you have created.


Here is something relevant...During the 1963/64 intercommunal "troubles" 35,000 Turkish Cypriots became refugees...They left their homes and sought shelter in safer TC enclaves because they felt their lives were in danger from their compatriot GCs...
With a few notable exceptions no GC ever talks about this unless to try to justify it blaming it on the TMT pressure...It seems that in most GC minds 1974 is modern history while 1963 is ancient... :)
I know it is painful but I will keep reminding you of all the realities of Cyprus,not just the selective ones you want to remember... :twisted:

Time you started paying attention to some of the self confessions on here...

I owe my exile to Australia to the TMT more than the EOKA...
This does not mean that TMT did nothing good for the TCs...or that all members were murderous thugs...


http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus11396-10.html


And time for you to read my old posts carefully...Where do I say that the TMT was responsible for driving the TCs out of their homes in 1963???
Find me a line where I put all the blame on the TMT and I will stop posting in this forum...I was talking about my personal case...At the time I believed it was the TMT which forced my father out of Cyprus..I was wrong..So stop trying to twist what I said in the past...The gauntlet is thrown at you,Tiberius..Find a post where I put all the blame for 1963 on the TMT,and you won't have me to worry about any longer... :twisted:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:25 am

bill cobbett wrote:
Me Ed wrote:We must never stop communicating, we must stop co-operating.

The generation that put cyprus in its current state will go down in history as the half-witted generation of shame.

As long as you buffoons are alive there will be no solution.

The solution will only come about by the generations to come and not the idiots that caused that created the problem in the first place.

I don't believe the cyprob will be solve in my lifetime, and will be solved when the generation of shame is long gone.


Curiously was thinking about this just this afternoon Me Ed.

Came up with ... one generation contributed to it, the next generation was too traumatised by it to do anything about it, so perhaps it falls to the next perhaps more educated, perhaps more articulate generation to come to a settlement.

In any event, yes, perhaps a generational thing.


Where is this more educated ,more articulate generation going to come from,Bill??? Out of the internet age???The generation growing up on computer games,Nintendos and Play stations know only two things: Violence and aggression...They couldn't write or speak a proper sentence,let alone think realistically....If our generation cannot solve it,forget it...The status qou will be the permanent solution,agreed or not... :(
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Postby Me Ed » Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:42 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Me Ed wrote:We must never stop communicating, we must stop co-operating.

The generation that put cyprus in its current state will go down in history as the half-witted generation of shame.

As long as you buffoons are alive there will be no solution.

The solution will only come about by the generations to come and not the idiots that caused that created the problem in the first place.

I don't believe the cyprob will be solve in my lifetime, and will be solved when the generation of shame is long gone.


Curiously was thinking about this just this afternoon Me Ed.

Came up with ... one generation contributed to it, the next generation was too traumatised by it to do anything about it, so perhaps it falls to the next perhaps more educated, perhaps more articulate generation to come to a settlement.

In any event, yes, perhaps a generational thing.


Where is this more educated ,more articulate generation going to come from,Bill??? Out of the internet age???The generation growing up on computer games,Nintendos and Play stations know only two things: Violence and aggression...They couldn't write or speak a proper sentence,let alone think realistically....If our generation cannot solve it,forget it...The status qou will be the permanent solution,agreed or not... :(

Bir,

Your ludricous comments above confirm why your generation will never solve the cyprob.

You dismiss the younger generation as dumb, but its your generation that f*cked cyprus up.

You really think your older and wiser? No, step aside, with your baggage and outmoded thoughts, to those of us who are more amenable to a solution.
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Re: It will be a 'lose-lose' situation for all the Cypriots.

Postby DT. » Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:28 am

cymart wrote:Except a few greedy lawyers and die-hard nationalists on both sides,the present economic and social problems will deteriorate and more and more Cypriots will go abroad in hope of a better future on both sides of the dividing line!The worse-case scenario will become reality......
Let's try to dwell on the optimstic one instead,while there is still time?


What? :? Cyprus isn't some developing nation where people have to leave to "find a better future". In case you missed it CYprus is a destination for 1000's of legal and illegal immigrants looking for a better future.

Don't compare what is happening in the isolated occupied territories with what is happening in an EU state.
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Re: It will be a 'lose-lose' situation for all the Cypriots.

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:40 am

DT. wrote:
cymart wrote:Except a few greedy lawyers and die-hard nationalists on both sides,the present economic and social problems will deteriorate and more and more Cypriots will go abroad in hope of a better future on both sides of the dividing line!The worse-case scenario will become reality......
Let's try to dwell on the optimstic one instead,while there is still time?


What? :? Cyprus isn't some developing nation where people have to leave to "find a better future". In case you missed it CYprus is a destination for 1000's of legal and illegal immigrants looking for a better future.

Don't compare what is happening in the isolated occupied territories with what is happening in an EU state.


DT everyone who has been to the south can say with certainty that it aint all that if you think the TRNC is bad then your side is to far away, national figures are very misleading as the Greeks can confirm.
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Re: It will be a 'lose-lose' situation for all the Cypriots.

Postby DT. » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:23 am

Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
cymart wrote:Except a few greedy lawyers and die-hard nationalists on both sides,the present economic and social problems will deteriorate and more and more Cypriots will go abroad in hope of a better future on both sides of the dividing line!The worse-case scenario will become reality......
Let's try to dwell on the optimstic one instead,while there is still time?


What? :? Cyprus isn't some developing nation where people have to leave to "find a better future". In case you missed it CYprus is a destination for 1000's of legal and illegal immigrants looking for a better future.

Don't compare what is happening in the isolated occupied territories with what is happening in an EU state.


DT everyone who has been to the south can say with certainty that it aint all that if you think the TRNC is bad then your side is to far away, national figures are very misleading as the Greeks can confirm.


Then why are you willing to give up your "state" in exchange for a lifting of this isolation?

If things are not too bad, then what exactly is the reason talat is in talks right now?

I know why we're at the table, we want our land back and for this country to be re-unified...what are you doing there?
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