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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby YFred » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:10 am

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SKI-preo wrote:Solution has been predicted to occur "by default" in some recent articles.google Cyprus & by default" I'm too busy. Greek Cypriots have a responsibility to earn Turkish Cypriot trust and cooperation. This is not because of blame or who did what to who. It is simply a duty that comes with being a larger portion of the population. Smaller populations will become radicalized and focus on division if they are not offered genuine incentives to cooperate. 1960's Cyprus was too primitive and Levantine to understand the benefits of affirmative action. If Cypriots realized the benefits of winning support and cooperation from all components of the the population I would still be in Kyrenia and there would be no subterfuge Turkey could have used to napalm my all Greekcypriot town. I feel that the public and private sector must be encouraged even obligated to hire/appoint Turkish Cypriots to senior roles. There should be a large number of scholarships for Turkish Cypriots to study at internationally recognized Cypriot Tertiary Institutions. Other good will gestures are required but hopefully you get my point. I would go so far as to provide Turkish Cypriots who wish to work/live in the free areas rent free homes if they can fill skills shortages in regional areas.If it became law that every political party had to appoint at least a number of Turkish Cypriots to senior roles then they would have a reason to cooperate and trust us. In Singapore, political parties must be made up of the ethnic groups represented on the island nation. Even though Singapore is not exactly the most shining example of democracy Cypriots could learn from this multicultural but ridiculously wealthy little island nation and I am not talking about the fantastic Ka-Tong Singapore Laksa. In some ways Cyprus has fewer challenges when you consider the make up of other countries.


Thank you,SKI...Finally, a progressive free thinker who knows what he is talking about...What a pity we wasted 50 odd years chasing stupid nationalist dreams instead of looking at ways of getting on with each other in our tiny homeland...Great to hear too,there is another LAKSA worshipper out there... :wink: :)

Bir, it seems to me that most GCs are oblivious to the TCs needs. They offer this and that and the other while they are tighting the nouse round our necks with their economic suffocation. How about remove isolation. Nothing else is required. Is it that difficult to understand?

It's quite simple YFred - Turkey gives the GCs back their land then the RoC gives back their TCs land back - your isolation will end overnight.

That's a very interesting concept. You steal our land because somebody else stole yours. Strange how International law allows such thievery, you thieving pigletts.
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Postby Me Ed » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:23 am

YFred wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
YFred wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
SKI-preo wrote:Solution has been predicted to occur "by default" in some recent articles.google Cyprus & by default" I'm too busy. Greek Cypriots have a responsibility to earn Turkish Cypriot trust and cooperation. This is not because of blame or who did what to who. It is simply a duty that comes with being a larger portion of the population. Smaller populations will become radicalized and focus on division if they are not offered genuine incentives to cooperate. 1960's Cyprus was too primitive and Levantine to understand the benefits of affirmative action. If Cypriots realized the benefits of winning support and cooperation from all components of the the population I would still be in Kyrenia and there would be no subterfuge Turkey could have used to napalm my all Greekcypriot town. I feel that the public and private sector must be encouraged even obligated to hire/appoint Turkish Cypriots to senior roles. There should be a large number of scholarships for Turkish Cypriots to study at internationally recognized Cypriot Tertiary Institutions. Other good will gestures are required but hopefully you get my point. I would go so far as to provide Turkish Cypriots who wish to work/live in the free areas rent free homes if they can fill skills shortages in regional areas.If it became law that every political party had to appoint at least a number of Turkish Cypriots to senior roles then they would have a reason to cooperate and trust us. In Singapore, political parties must be made up of the ethnic groups represented on the island nation. Even though Singapore is not exactly the most shining example of democracy Cypriots could learn from this multicultural but ridiculously wealthy little island nation and I am not talking about the fantastic Ka-Tong Singapore Laksa. In some ways Cyprus has fewer challenges when you consider the make up of other countries.


Thank you,SKI...Finally, a progressive free thinker who knows what he is talking about...What a pity we wasted 50 odd years chasing stupid nationalist dreams instead of looking at ways of getting on with each other in our tiny homeland...Great to hear too,there is another LAKSA worshipper out there... :wink: :)

Bir, it seems to me that most GCs are oblivious to the TCs needs. They offer this and that and the other while they are tighting the nouse round our necks with their economic suffocation. How about remove isolation. Nothing else is required. Is it that difficult to understand?

It's quite simple YFred - Turkey gives the GCs back their land then the RoC gives back their TCs land back - your isolation will end overnight.

That's a very interesting concept. You steal our land because somebody else stole yours. Strange how International law allows such thievery, you thieving pigletts.

Allow me to enlighten you.

Turkey gives back the GCs their properties and airport back in the north.

As the GCs vacate the land and property land they were forced to use as a direct result of the invasion, the rightful TC owner can then aquire their land and property..

I really couldn't much simpler - and your alleged imbargos will vanish like a puff of smoke.
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Postby YFred » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:27 am

Me Ed wrote:
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Me Ed wrote:
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SKI-preo wrote:Solution has been predicted to occur "by default" in some recent articles.google Cyprus & by default" I'm too busy. Greek Cypriots have a responsibility to earn Turkish Cypriot trust and cooperation. This is not because of blame or who did what to who. It is simply a duty that comes with being a larger portion of the population. Smaller populations will become radicalized and focus on division if they are not offered genuine incentives to cooperate. 1960's Cyprus was too primitive and Levantine to understand the benefits of affirmative action. If Cypriots realized the benefits of winning support and cooperation from all components of the the population I would still be in Kyrenia and there would be no subterfuge Turkey could have used to napalm my all Greekcypriot town. I feel that the public and private sector must be encouraged even obligated to hire/appoint Turkish Cypriots to senior roles. There should be a large number of scholarships for Turkish Cypriots to study at internationally recognized Cypriot Tertiary Institutions. Other good will gestures are required but hopefully you get my point. I would go so far as to provide Turkish Cypriots who wish to work/live in the free areas rent free homes if they can fill skills shortages in regional areas.If it became law that every political party had to appoint at least a number of Turkish Cypriots to senior roles then they would have a reason to cooperate and trust us. In Singapore, political parties must be made up of the ethnic groups represented on the island nation. Even though Singapore is not exactly the most shining example of democracy Cypriots could learn from this multicultural but ridiculously wealthy little island nation and I am not talking about the fantastic Ka-Tong Singapore Laksa. In some ways Cyprus has fewer challenges when you consider the make up of other countries.


Thank you,SKI...Finally, a progressive free thinker who knows what he is talking about...What a pity we wasted 50 odd years chasing stupid nationalist dreams instead of looking at ways of getting on with each other in our tiny homeland...Great to hear too,there is another LAKSA worshipper out there... :wink: :)

Bir, it seems to me that most GCs are oblivious to the TCs needs. They offer this and that and the other while they are tighting the nouse round our necks with their economic suffocation. How about remove isolation. Nothing else is required. Is it that difficult to understand?

It's quite simple YFred - Turkey gives the GCs back their land then the RoC gives back their TCs land back - your isolation will end overnight.

That's a very interesting concept. You steal our land because somebody else stole yours. Strange how International law allows such thievery, you thieving pigletts.

Allow me to enlighten you.

Turkey gives back the GCs their properties and airport back in the north.

As the GCs vacate the land and property land they were forced to use as a direct result of the invasion, the rightful TC owner can then aquire their land and property..

I really couldn't much simpler - and your alleged imbargos will vanish like a puff of smoke.

So it's alright to steal somebody elses land so long as anybody else has stolen ours. It must me the new teaching of the GO church.
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Postby Me Ed » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:52 am

YFred wrote:
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YFred wrote:
Me Ed wrote:
YFred wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
SKI-preo wrote:Solution has been predicted to occur "by default" in some recent articles.google Cyprus & by default" I'm too busy. Greek Cypriots have a responsibility to earn Turkish Cypriot trust and cooperation. This is not because of blame or who did what to who. It is simply a duty that comes with being a larger portion of the population. Smaller populations will become radicalized and focus on division if they are not offered genuine incentives to cooperate. 1960's Cyprus was too primitive and Levantine to understand the benefits of affirmative action. If Cypriots realized the benefits of winning support and cooperation from all components of the the population I would still be in Kyrenia and there would be no subterfuge Turkey could have used to napalm my all Greekcypriot town. I feel that the public and private sector must be encouraged even obligated to hire/appoint Turkish Cypriots to senior roles. There should be a large number of scholarships for Turkish Cypriots to study at internationally recognized Cypriot Tertiary Institutions. Other good will gestures are required but hopefully you get my point. I would go so far as to provide Turkish Cypriots who wish to work/live in the free areas rent free homes if they can fill skills shortages in regional areas.If it became law that every political party had to appoint at least a number of Turkish Cypriots to senior roles then they would have a reason to cooperate and trust us. In Singapore, political parties must be made up of the ethnic groups represented on the island nation. Even though Singapore is not exactly the most shining example of democracy Cypriots could learn from this multicultural but ridiculously wealthy little island nation and I am not talking about the fantastic Ka-Tong Singapore Laksa. In some ways Cyprus has fewer challenges when you consider the make up of other countries.


Thank you,SKI...Finally, a progressive free thinker who knows what he is talking about...What a pity we wasted 50 odd years chasing stupid nationalist dreams instead of looking at ways of getting on with each other in our tiny homeland...Great to hear too,there is another LAKSA worshipper out there... :wink: :)

Bir, it seems to me that most GCs are oblivious to the TCs needs. They offer this and that and the other while they are tighting the nouse round our necks with their economic suffocation. How about remove isolation. Nothing else is required. Is it that difficult to understand?

It's quite simple YFred - Turkey gives the GCs back their land then the RoC gives back their TCs land back - your isolation will end overnight.

That's a very interesting concept. You steal our land because somebody else stole yours. Strange how International law allows such thievery, you thieving pigletts.

Allow me to enlighten you.

Turkey gives back the GCs their properties and airport back in the north.

As the GCs vacate the land and property land they were forced to use as a direct result of the invasion, the rightful TC owner can then aquire their land and property..

I really couldn't much simpler - and your alleged imbargos will vanish like a puff of smoke.

So it's alright to steal somebody elses land so long as anybody else has stolen ours. It must me the new teaching of the GO church.

YFred, you can keep up this nonsense if you like and I know from your posts that you like to pretend that you don't understand, but I know that you are more intelligent than that.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:49 pm

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Me Ed wrote: It's quite simple YFred - Turkey gives the GCs back their land then the RoC gives back their TCs land back - your isolation will end overnight.


This will never ever happen, its too late.

Wealthy business men have made money from the current situation, particularly in the South where there are no economic nooses around their necks. These wealthy people are influential and will never give up what they have achieved.

If you think everything will go back to what it was like pre 1974, then you are dreaming, you need to be realistic, the little man loses again.

A solution needs to be found, but your proposal won't happen.


You WISH you could go back to 1974! These days we’re looking more at 1570...

I mean let’s face it… Ottomans have been history since 1923, and now “Turkish Cypriots” are history since amalgamating with Turkey for the last 35 years, so what on earth are Turks doing in Cyprus I ask?

They’ve got no legs to stand on, that’s what…

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm


You are such a racist pig, for god sakes, get over the Ottomans, The Venetians the Romans and all the other civilizations that have raided Cyprus, we are now supposedly in the modern era.

Your continual negativity towards TC's leads me to believe the GC's cannot be trusted and that is why I am happy for 35000 troops to remain on the Island.

You found the wrong person to play the “trust card” with because I for one couldn’t care less whom you trust, and know for sure that nobody can EVER trust YOU!
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Postby wallace » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:58 pm

DTA wrote:Post the new thread or I will not answer you why is that so difficult to understand?

You don't abide by my rules and I do t abide by yours, but you are the one asking the question, do you see the parrellel there?


Dictating to post a new thread ah? You're a lost case! And you will not answer me in this or a new thread.....and the reason is because you CAN'T answer my question, is that so difficult to understand? :roll: :arrow:
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Postby YFred » Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:00 pm

wallace wrote:
DTA wrote:Post the new thread or I will not answer you why is that so difficult to understand?

You don't abide by my rules and I do t abide by yours, but you are the one asking the question, do you see the parrellel there?


Dictating to post a new thread ah? You're a lost case! And you will not answer me in this or a new thread.....and the reason is because you CAN'T answer my question, is that so difficult to understand? :roll: :arrow: Next dumb fuck please :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dumb Fuck? is that your level of understanding? Wally baby.
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Postby Gasman » Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:06 pm

Imagine how difficult it is for the leaders of both sides to engage in these talks when they presumably have to keep things on a civilised, polite level for months on end. You can't manage it for two minutes.
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Postby wallace » Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:07 pm

YFred wrote:
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DTA wrote:Post the new thread or I will not answer you why is that so difficult to understand?

You don't abide by my rules and I do t abide by yours, but you are the one asking the question, do you see the parrellel there?


Dictating to post a new thread ah? You're a lost case! And you will not answer me in this or a new thread.....and the reason is because you CAN'T answer my question, is that so difficult to understand? :roll: :arrow: Next dumb fuck please :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dumb Fuck? is that your level of understanding? Wally baby.


Who asked you fred? But while you're ad it.....why don't you answer my simple question......what did the TC's and Turks compromise up untill now? :lol: :lol: :wink:
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Postby yorgozlu » Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:50 pm

wallace wrote:
DTA wrote:Post the new thread or I will not answer you why is that so difficult to understand?

You don't abide by my rules and I do t abide by yours, but you are the one asking the question, do you see the parrellel there?


Dictating to post a new thread ah? You're a lost case! And you will not answer me in this or a new thread.....and the reason is because you CAN'T answer my question, is that so difficult to understand? :roll: :arrow: Next dumb fuck please :lol: :lol: :lol:



Dictating a post :?: :?: :?:

Why dont you just start the thread then?or,are you worried that you might hear the inevitable?
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