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[Get Real!]

The eu recognized restrictions are gc generated and supported they use every opportunity to squeeze us into submission...

We are law abiding people...

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

...and apparently, with the exception of Turkey, so is everyone else!

[Malapapa]

Solution has been predicted to occur "by default" in some recent articles.google Cyprus & by default" I'm too busy. Greek Cypriots have a responsibility to earn Turkish Cypriot trust and cooperation. This is not because of blame or who did what to who. It is simply a duty that comes with being a larger portion of the population. Smaller populations will become radicalized and focus on division if they are not offered genuine incentives to cooperate. 1960's Cyprus was too primitive and Levantine to understand the benefits of affirmative action. If Cypriots realized the benefits of winning support and cooperation from all components of the the population I would still be in Kyrenia and there would be no subterfuge Turkey could have used to napalm my all Greekcypriot town. I feel that the public and private sector must be encouraged even obligated to hire/appoint Turkish Cypriots to senior roles. There should be a large number of scholarships for Turkish Cypriots to study at internationally recognized Cypriot Tertiary Institutions. Other good will gestures are required but hopefully you get my point. I would go so far as to provide Turkish Cypriots who wish to work/live in the free areas rent free homes if they can fill skills shortages in regional areas.If it became law that every political party had to appoint at least a number of Turkish Cypriots to senior roles then they would have a reason to cooperate and trust us. In Singapore, political parties must be made up of the ethnic groups represented on the island nation. Even though Singapore is not exactly the most shining example of democracy Cypriots could learn from this multicultural but ridiculously wealthy little island nation and I am not talking about the fantastic Ka-Tong Singapore Laksa. In some ways Cyprus has fewer challenges when you consider the make up of other countries.

Thank you,SKI...Finally, a progressive free thinker who knows what he is talking about...What a pity we wasted 50 odd years chasing stupid nationalist dreams instead of looking at ways of getting on with each other in our tiny homeland...Great to hear too,there is another LAKSA worshipper out there...

Bir, it seems to me that most GCs are oblivious to the TCs needs. They offer this and that and the other while they are tighting the nouse round our necks with their economic suffocation. How about remove isolation. Nothing else is required. Is it that difficult to understand?

This is how isolation can be removed. TC (ie legitimate Cypriot citizen) owned and run businesses trade goods/services, administered by a TC run authority recognised by the Republic (ie. TC Chamber of Commerce) which guarantees any such trade does not infringe on the rights of displaced Cypriots, eg. by trespassing on their land/property.

[Me Ed]

Solution has been predicted to occur "by default" in some recent articles.google Cyprus & by default" I'm too busy. Greek Cypriots have a responsibility to earn Turkish Cypriot trust and cooperation. This is not because of blame or who did what to who. It is simply a duty that comes with being a larger portion of the population. Smaller populations will become radicalized and focus on division if they are not offered genuine incentives to cooperate. 1960's Cyprus was too primitive and Levantine to understand the benefits of affirmative action. If Cypriots realized the benefits of winning support and cooperation from all components of the the population I would still be in Kyrenia and there would be no subterfuge Turkey could have used to napalm my all Greekcypriot town. I feel that the public and private sector must be encouraged even obligated to hire/appoint Turkish Cypriots to senior roles. There should be a large number of scholarships for Turkish Cypriots to study at internationally recognized Cypriot Tertiary Institutions. Other good will gestures are required but hopefully you get my point. I would go so far as to provide Turkish Cypriots who wish to work/live in the free areas rent free homes if they can fill skills shortages in regional areas.If it became law that every political party had to appoint at least a number of Turkish Cypriots to senior roles then they would have a reason to cooperate and trust us. In Singapore, political parties must be made up of the ethnic groups represented on the island nation. Even though Singapore is not exactly the most shining example of democracy Cypriots could learn from this multicultural but ridiculously wealthy little island nation and I am not talking about the fantastic Ka-Tong Singapore Laksa. In some ways Cyprus has fewer challenges when you consider the make up of other countries.

Thank you,SKI...Finally, a progressive free thinker who knows what he is talking about...What a pity we wasted 50 odd years chasing stupid nationalist dreams instead of looking at ways of getting on with each other in our tiny homeland...Great to hear too,there is another LAKSA worshipper out there...

Bir, it seems to me that most GCs are oblivious to the TCs needs. They offer this and that and the other while they are tighting the nouse round our necks with their economic suffocation. How about remove isolation. Nothing else is required. Is it that difficult to understand?

It's quite simple YFred - Turkey gives the GCs back their land then the RoC gives back their TCs land back - your isolation will end overnight.

[aussieturk]

It's quite simple YFred - Turkey gives the GCs back their land then the RoC gives back their TCs land back - your isolation will end overnight.

This will never ever happen, its too late.

Wealthy business men have made money from the current situation, particularly in the South where there are no economic nooses around their necks. These wealthy people are influential and will never give up what they have achieved.

If you think everything will go back to what it was like pre 1974, then you are dreaming, you need to be realistic, the little man loses again.

A solution needs to be found, but your proposal won't happen.

[Me Ed]

It's quite simple YFred - Turkey gives the GCs back their land then the RoC gives back their TCs land back - your isolation will end overnight.

This will never ever happen, its too late.

Wealthy business men have made money from the current situation, particularly in the South where there are no economic nooses around their necks. These wealthy people are influential and will never give up what they have achieved.

If you think everything will go back to what it was like pre 1974, then you are dreaming, you need to be realistic, the little man loses again.

A solution needs to be found, but your proposal won't happen.

aussieturk, that is a long way to state that you don't believe in the restoration of rights for all Cypriots - remove the Turks, remove your isolation.

[Get Real!]

It's quite simple YFred - Turkey gives the GCs back their land then the RoC gives back their TCs land back - your isolation will end overnight.

This will never ever happen, its too late.

Wealthy business men have made money from the current situation, particularly in the South where there are no economic nooses around their necks. These wealthy people are influential and will never give up what they have achieved.

If you think everything will go back to what it was like pre 1974, then you are dreaming, you need to be realistic, the little man loses again.

A solution needs to be found, but your proposal won't happen.

You WISH you could go back to 1974! These days we’re looking more at 1570...

I mean let’s face it… Ottomans have been history since 1923, and now “Turkish Cypriots” are history since amalgamating with Turkey for the last 35 years, so what on earth are Turks doing in Cyprus I ask?

They’ve got no legs to stand on, that’s what…

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

[aussieturk]

It's quite simple YFred - Turkey gives the GCs back their land then the RoC gives back their TCs land back - your isolation will end overnight.

This will never ever happen, its too late.

Wealthy business men have made money from the current situation, particularly in the South where there are no economic nooses around their necks. These wealthy people are influential and will never give up what they have achieved.

If you think everything will go back to what it was like pre 1974, then you are dreaming, you need to be realistic, the little man loses again.

A solution needs to be found, but your proposal won't happen.

aussieturk, that is a long way to state that you don't believe in the restoration of rights for all Cypriots - remove the Turks, remove your isolation.

Did I say that, no.

All I believe is that people of influence think about themselves first and don't give a stuff about their country or the people that live in it. Thats why communism failed, thats why we have capitalist countries with a small % of the population being richer than the rest of the population and the same goes for Cyprus. There are a small % of the population who have influence over the whole country and are happy to not change, otherwise a solution would have been reached some 20 plus years ago and that goes for both sides.

[aussieturk]

It's quite simple YFred - Turkey gives the GCs back their land then the RoC gives back their TCs land back - your isolation will end overnight.

This will never ever happen, its too late.

Wealthy business men have made money from the current situation, particularly in the South where there are no economic nooses around their necks. These wealthy people are influential and will never give up what they have achieved.

If you think everything will go back to what it was like pre 1974, then you are dreaming, you need to be realistic, the little man loses again.

A solution needs to be found, but your proposal won't happen.

You WISH you could go back to 1974! These days we’re looking more at 1570...

I mean let’s face it… Ottomans have been history since 1923, and now “Turkish Cypriots” are history since amalgamating with Turkey for the last 35 years, so what on earth are Turks doing in Cyprus I ask?

They’ve got no legs to stand on, that’s what…

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

You are such a racist pig, for god sakes, get over the Ottomans, The Venetians the Romans and all the other civilizations that have raided Cyprus, we are now supposedly in the modern era.

Your continual negativity towards TC's leads me to believe the GC's cannot be trusted and that is why I am happy for 35000 troops to remain on the Island.

[wyoming cowboy]

The Turkish army is keeping you under submission.....and you know it. Back in 1990 when the internet first came out why was it delayed in the occuppied areas, and under pressure finally allowed to use a computer..You have allowed people that have no concept of freedom to rule you..and you want to keep them there after a solution is found...are you crazy...no free thinking human would ever accept that... and all along you complain while sitting on stolen Gc lands...The UN sponsored embargo is there so one day justice will be served on Cyprus. Do you or dont you have the right to return to your homes wherever you are, Why is the Gc not allowed to claim his rightful property...and you complain....If you cant open up your mind and see that the world has changed in the past 36 years then i have no hope for you...

The eu recognized restrictions are gc generated and supported they use every opportunity to squeeze us into submission but are still unable to understand that we would rather starve than give into such underhand low life tactics. The TA is clearly the only reason for the last 36 years of peaceful exsistence without them there would probably be No TCs left as was the policy of gcs to get rid of tcs one way or another.

[wyoming cowboy]

Again you bring up the wealth that the Gc's have accumulated, while you were eating your self imposed embargo....I think its not about guarantees but rather about economy.....

It's quite simple YFred - Turkey gives the GCs back their land then the RoC gives back their TCs land back - your isolation will end overnight.

This will never ever happen, its too late.

Wealthy business men have made money from the current situation, particularly in the South where there are no economic nooses around their necks. These wealthy people are influential and will never give up what they have achieved.

If you think everything will go back to what it was like pre 1974, then you are dreaming, you need to be realistic, the little man loses again.

A solution needs to be found, but your proposal won't happen.

You WISH you could go back to 1974! These days we’re looking more at 1570...

I mean let’s face it… Ottomans have been history since 1923, and now “Turkish Cypriots” are history since amalgamating with Turkey for the last 35 years, so what on earth are Turks doing in Cyprus I ask?

They’ve got no legs to stand on, that’s what…

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

You are such a racist pig, for god sakes, get over the Ottomans, The Venetians the Romans and all the other civilizations that have raided Cyprus, we are now supposedly in the modern era.

Your continual negativity towards TC's leads me to believe the GC's cannot be trusted and that is why I am happy for 35000 troops to remain on the Island.