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greece and italy are recognised worldwide.. is the trnc? would the trnc flood with turks if they let them in the eu and turkey not? they cant stand on their own two feet without turkey pumping milliong per year and not while they ignore all eu and un laws and so many other factors that would not give trnc a chance in a trillion years, there is more chance for it to rain money then that to happen...

when we re unite the tcs will enjoy the eu benefits .. as they do now anyway they just come and take id cards and passports with no problems. your dreaming if you think that will happen

without a solution im willing to fight my corner for recognition as long as it takes we are here for the long haul.

[fwnh]

VP is right on that, it only takes a few idiots- hence why I support the Turkish troops being withdrawn SLOWLY. Also a good mixed militia, either police or a new infantry. Let's not forget that (a) we have a lot of shotguns and (b) both EOKA and TMT managed to get hold of guns.

YFred, I honestly don't want to get into an argument with you because you have very strong, inflexible ideas and it will degenerate into an argument- you don't want to see a middle ground. Don't take it the wrong way, there's 'GC' forum members of the same style. Sorry dude. All I was saying is that red line should have been traced out earlier, and as far as the RoC is concerned, it wasnt a red line 60 yrs ago because we werent mature enough as a country to let go of Greece's apron strings and we hadn't been invaded by the Turkish army. Again, don't jump down my throat- whether it was right or wrong is irrelevant to what I'm trying to say, but the fact is 99.9 % of GC would not want Turkey to have the right to unilateral intervention in any solution.

But re liontari who fed the guns to EOKA and TMT?? ... the guarantor states this is the whole argument we are making about no guarantors....

[bill cobbett]

greece and italy are recognised worldwide.. is the trnc? would the trnc flood with turks if they let them in the eu and turkey not? they cant stand on their own two feet without turkey pumping milliong per year and not while they ignore all eu and un laws and so many other factors that would not give trnc a chance in a trillion years, there is more chance for it to rain money then that to happen...

when we re unite the tcs will enjoy the eu benefits .. as they do now anyway they just come and take id cards and passports with no problems. your dreaming if you think that will happen

without a solution im willing to fight my corner for recognition as long as it takes we are here for the long haul.

So you're walking away from the talks???

[fwnh]

greece and italy are recognised worldwide.. is the trnc? would the trnc flood with turks if they let them in the eu and turkey not? they cant stand on their own two feet without turkey pumping milliong per year and not while they ignore all eu and un laws and so many other factors that would not give trnc a chance in a trillion years, there is more chance for it to rain money then that to happen...

when we re unite the tcs will enjoy the eu benefits .. as they do now anyway they just come and take id cards and passports with no problems. your dreaming if you think that will happen

without a solution im willing to fight my corner for recognition as long as it takes we are here for the long haul.

so you are willing to stand your ground firmly rather than work on a solution so you don't have to be troubled abour it?

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No bill the GCs Will

[Malapapa]

greece and italy are recognised worldwide.. is the trnc? would the trnc flood with turks if they let them in the eu and turkey not? they cant stand on their own two feet without turkey pumping milliong per year and not while they ignore all eu and un laws and so many other factors that would not give trnc a chance in a trillion years, there is more chance for it to rain money then that to happen...

when we re unite the tcs will enjoy the eu benefits .. as they do now anyway they just come and take id cards and passports with no problems. your dreaming if you think that will happen

without a solution im willing to fight my corner for recognition as long as it takes we are here for the long haul.

Without a solution, it's survival you'll be fighting for. Your corner is besieged and will remain so until surrender, as long as it takes. We are here for the long haul.

[Liontaroui]

VP is right on that, it only takes a few idiots- hence why I support the Turkish troops being withdrawn SLOWLY. Also a good mixed militia, either police or a new infantry. Let's not forget that (a) we have a lot of shotguns and (b) both EOKA and TMT managed to get hold of guns.

YFred, I honestly don't want to get into an argument with you because you have very strong, inflexible ideas and it will degenerate into an argument- you don't want to see a middle ground. Don't take it the wrong way, there's 'GC' forum members of the same style. Sorry dude. All I was saying is that red line should have been traced out earlier, and as far as the RoC is concerned, it wasnt a red line 60 yrs ago because we werent mature enough as a country to let go of Greece's apron strings and we hadn't been invaded by the Turkish army. Again, don't jump down my throat- whether it was right or wrong is irrelevant to what I'm trying to say, but the fact is 99.9 % of GC would not want Turkey to have the right to unilateral intervention in any solution.

But re liontari who fed the guns to EOKA and TMT?? ... the guarantor states this is the whole argument we are making about no guarantors....

Were they guarantors at the time? They could STILL feed weapons in. I agree on no guarantors, but we need a very secure mechanism to ensure that TC's are effectively secure and so are GC, and feel it too. Look, I personally don't think that these days the TC have much to worry about but what I think is irrelevant, both sides need to feel a security if they are to enter any kind of partnership in good faith. That's why I made my suggestion- I'm sure there's an even better way.

[paliometoxo]

greece and italy are recognised worldwide.. is the trnc? would the trnc flood with turks if they let them in the eu and turkey not? they cant stand on their own two feet without turkey pumping milliong per year and not while they ignore all eu and un laws and so many other factors that would not give trnc a chance in a trillion years, there is more chance for it to rain money then that to happen...

when we re unite the tcs will enjoy the eu benefits .. as they do now anyway they just come and take id cards and passports with no problems. your dreaming if you think that will happen

without a solution im willing to fight my corner for recognition as long as it takes we are here for the long haul.

im not putting that to question but Yfred says the trnc would become a member of europe, im saying that is impossible, even if the trnc where to be recognised tomorrow it just not meet eu standards, if turkey does not by far no way will trnc :..L/

[paliometoxo]

VP is right on that, it only takes a few idiots- hence why I support the Turkish troops being withdrawn SLOWLY. Also a good mixed militia, either police or a new infantry. Let's not forget that (a) we have a lot of shotguns and (b) both EOKA and TMT managed to get hold of guns.

YFred, I honestly don't want to get into an argument with you because you have very strong, inflexible ideas and it will degenerate into an argument- you don't want to see a middle ground. Don't take it the wrong way, there's 'GC' forum members of the same style. Sorry dude. All I was saying is that red line should have been traced out earlier, and as far as the RoC is concerned, it wasnt a red line 60 yrs ago because we werent mature enough as a country to let go of Greece's apron strings and we hadn't been invaded by the Turkish army. Again, don't jump down my throat- whether it was right or wrong is irrelevant to what I'm trying to say, but the fact is 99.9 % of GC would not want Turkey to have the right to unilateral intervention in any solution.

But re liontari who fed the guns to EOKA and TMT?? ... the guarantor states this is the whole argument we are making about no guarantors....

america helped turkey a lot to invade and they gave them the weapons, they are not a garantore power as you know

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Mala anything is better than being forces to live as a minority in a gc state run by gcs