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Should Downer Stay or Go?

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Should Downer step down from office?

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Should Downer Stay or Go?

Postby Oracle » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:19 pm

OK ... Let's have another Forum Poll :D



Hostility towards Downer grows in Cyprus

HELENA SMITH

February 22, 2010

Before he took up his post as special United Nations envoy to Cyprus, Alexander Downer enthusiastically declared that he would ''fix up'' the ''untidy'' problem of reuniting Greeks and Turks on the island.

Almost 18 months later, the former Australian foreign affairs minister has discovered - like so many before him - that it might not be so easy.

He faces calls for his resignation amid accusations of favouritism and complaints he does not spend enough time on the island.

''Barely a day goes by without some difference of view being aired … but as for the issue of being here all the time, I was employed on a part-time basis and I'm not paid full-time.''

Hostility towards the 57-year-old peaked this month after a diplomatic faux pas.

The gaffe, for which Mr Downer has been squarely blamed, came when the UN Secretary-General, Ban Ki-moon, flew in on a highly publicised visit. As the third UN chief to tour the Mediterranean island - nearly 36 years after it was invaded by Turkey in response to a Greek-led coup - Mr Ban had hoped his presence would help re-energise the peace process.

Instead, the South Korean sparked a furore after unexpectedly agreeing, in a last-minute switch of locale, to meet the Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat in his official office rather than his home.

Mr Downer played down the change as having ''no political significance''.

''We have a problem and it's called Downer,'' said Rikos Erotokritou, vice-president of the small but hardline European Party. ''It is our belief that he should step down. He misled the Secretary-General on purpose because he is biased. He gives the impression that his only concern is money and that he doesn't know his work. It is incredible that he still hasn't set up permanent residence in Cyprus. How can the negotiations be fruitful if he is here for a few days and then flies off?''

Marios Garoyian, the leader of the Democratic Party, put it another way: ''There is a Downer issue. It's not the first time he operates beyond his mandate [or] in a way which puts the Republic of Cyprus in a difficult position.''

Inaugurating the negotiations only weeks after his departure from the hurly burly of politics back home, Mr Downer called it a ''historic day'' for Cyprus.

But with little headway made, analysts are asking whether the Australian can weather the storm.

''Downer's image here was never good but after the Ban visit it has really suffered,'' said Hubert Faustmann, a seasoned Cyprus watcher who teaches political science at Nicosia University. ''What happened in the north was not only a huge blow for Greek Cypriots, it was highly offensive. He has lost a lot of points by being seen as the mastermind behind Ban's visit to the 'presidential' palace …

''Greek Cypriots consider him ignorant and arrogant and there's a perception that he only wants a solution for his own glory.''


http://www.smh.com.au/world/hostility-t ... -oo08.html
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Postby Gasman » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:27 pm

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Postby Gasman » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:27 pm

Read this first yesterday on Northern Cyprus forums.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:33 pm

Good for you. I don't get around as much.

What did they think?

It may be worthwhile to compare notes ...
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Postby Gasman » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:59 pm

Good for you. I don't get around as much.


Well you wouldn't would you? You could save time if you made all your posts just normal looking posts.

As for what they think. Go find out for yourself. They'd been debating it for some time before you put the link.

I was going to link to a thread about it last night - YOU and no one else, dissuaded me from doing so.

You are not interested in debate.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:18 pm

Gasman wrote:
Good for you. I don't get around as much.

Well you wouldn't would you? You could save time if you made all your posts just normal looking posts.


What do you (newbie) deem as "normal" looking posts, here on CF?

Do you speak without inflection, perhaps. :roll:

As for what they think. Go find out for yourself. They'd been debating it for some time before you put the link.


We've been debating Downer for some time, also, but this analysis just came out today and seems to have moved the call further.

I don't need to go to your home-ground forum; but since you do, you could make yourself useful with some news instead of merely trolling my posts to complain about women, fonts or just bully me to do your bidding and leave the forum. :roll:

I was going to link to a thread about it last night - YOU and no one else, dissuaded me from doing so. You are not interested in debate.


Really? Am I so persuasive in your choice of what ideas see the light of day?

As for debate... you have certainly managed to ransack a number!
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Postby Gasman » Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:29 pm

Really? Am I so persuasive in your choice of what ideas see the light of day?


Yes you are. Not because (unlike you) I feel bullied by you (I am sure some do tho') but because you are so PREDICTABLE.

It's almost as if you cannot bear to see the words Turk or Turkish on your monitor screen!

How can the Cyprob be debated without the inclusion of both?
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Postby halil » Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:34 pm

BLACKMAILING ...............BLACKMAILING...............BLACKMAILING.........
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Postby B25 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:38 pm

Downer needs to go, he is biased no doubt. His company works for Turkey alegedly he is not involved, er, does he get salary or dividen payments ???

Then there is his coffee mornings with the likes of Halil and Bananiot, what more proof can you need, his brains have been washed with defeatists ideas. God help us if Bir ever attended those meetings imagine the sticky end :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby halil » Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:40 pm

The Greek Cypriot Side has struck another blow to the Cyprus negotiation process.

The Greek Cypriot House of Representatives has unanimously approved a resolution that rejects guarantorship in Cyprus.

Another disrupting move came from the Greek Cypriot Side which constantly aims to dilute the rights of guarantorship and unilateral intervention on the negotiation table.

The Greek Cypriot resolution argues that guarantorship rights, which were granted during the establishment of the independent Republic of Cyprus in 1960, are unacceptable.

The Greek Cypriot AKEL party had earlier asked for the postponement of today’s approval session but its request was turned down.

The resolution was approved as it was, although a long dispute was made on possible amendments.
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