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[B25]

The GCs have done it again...the only road left is status quo and a relaxation of isolation on the TRNC leading to recognition and return of refugee rights.

VP, My fellow TCs and the 'TRNC' government officials, do you and did you expect the legitimate RoC government and its people to accept any agreement that would unilaterally give guarantor rights to Turkey??

i mean seriously, are you really that surprised at this resolution?? This is a long time coming, if the RoC failed anywhere is that where they never stated their intentions up front and have been pussy footing about with your puppet and the coffee morning talks.

Seriously, if you were in our shoes, would you accept such an arrangement??

All the shit a side for the moment, let us just look at this one item, would you accept it??

[Viewpoint]

The GCs have done it again...the only road left is status quo and a relaxation of isolation on the TRNC leading to recognition and return of refugee rights.

VP, My fellow TCs and the 'TRNC' government officials, do you and did you expect the legitimate RoC government and its people to accept any agreement that would unilaterally give guarantor rights to Turkey??

i mean seriously, are you really that surprised at this resolution?? This is a long time coming, if the RoC failed anywhere is that where they never stated their intentions up front and have been pussy footing about with your puppet and the coffee morning talks.

Seriously, if you were in our shoes, would you accept such an arrangement??

All the shit a side for the moment, let us just look at this one item, would you accept it??

Do you realize you are unable to erase this from your consititution without the UK Turkey Greece and most importantly the TCs? This should have been negotiated into a solution by your leader, big mistake the fall out is surely to follow how can they go on negotiating when you GCs have effectively tied Christofias's hands behind his back?

[B25]

The GCs have done it again...the only road left is status quo and a relaxation of isolation on the TRNC leading to recognition and return of refugee rights.

VP, My fellow TCs and the 'TRNC' government officials, do you and did you expect the legitimate RoC government and its people to accept any agreement that would unilaterally give guarantor rights to Turkey??

i mean seriously, are you really that surprised at this resolution?? This is a long time coming, if the RoC failed anywhere is that where they never stated their intentions up front and have been pussy footing about with your puppet and the coffee morning talks.

Seriously, if you were in our shoes, would you accept such an arrangement??

All the shit a side for the moment, let us just look at this one item, would you accept it??

Do you realize you are unable to erase this from your consititution without the UK Turkey Greece and most importantly the TCs? This shoudl have been negotiated in by your leader, big mistake the fall out is surely to follow how can they go on negotiating when you GCs have effective tied Christofias hands behind his back?

VP you didn't (deliberately) answer my question, but went on the spout Erolz ranting.

Answer the question please.

[halil]

The GCs have done it again...the only road left is statusqou and a relaxation of isolation on the TRNC.

roads for talks are narrowing every passing hour. not much left for the election.TC public watching very carefully every move of the Greek side. Up to now only negative signs coming up . Before the last GC desicion on their parliment they have been warned.

Halil now its time for the big nations to move after yet another move from the GC side clearly showing they are not interested in a solution.

VP, public is watching carefully every movement the GC side does. Public opinions about the quarantees were well knowing by everybody in Cyprus.
It is a very sensitive part of the Cyprus problem. TC's will not give up their protection rights all public polls are showing very clearly. Even leaders are agreed public will say no at referendum.

[Viewpoint]

The GCs have done it again...the only road left is status quo and a relaxation of isolation on the TRNC leading to recognition and return of refugee rights.

VP, My fellow TCs and the 'TRNC' government officials, do you and did you expect the legitimate RoC government and its people to accept any agreement that would unilaterally give guarantor rights to Turkey??

i mean seriously, are you really that surprised at this resolution?? This is a long time coming, if the RoC failed anywhere is that where they never stated their intentions up front and have been pussy footing about with your puppet and the coffee morning talks.

Seriously, if you were in our shoes, would you accept such an arrangement??

All the shit a side for the moment, let us just look at this one item, would you accept it??

Do you realize you are unable to erase this from your consititution without the UK Turkey Greece and most importantly the TCs? This shoudl have been negotiated in by your leader, big mistake the fall out is surely to follow how can they go on negotiating when you GCs have effective tied Christofias hands behind his back?

VP you didn't (deliberately) answer my question, but went on the spout Erolz ranting.

Answer the question please.

I would accept whom ever you wanted for your security.

[Viewpoint]

The GCs have done it again...the only road left is statusqou and a relaxation of isolation on the TRNC.

roads for talks are narrowing every passing hour. not much left for the election.TC public watching very carefully every move of the Greek side. Up to now only negative signs coming up . Before the last GC desicion on their parliment they have been warned.

Halil now its time for the big nations to move after yet another move from the GC side clearly showing they are not interested in a solution.

VP, public is watching carefully every movement the GC side does. Public opinions about the quarantees were well knowing by everybody in Cyprus.
It is a very sensitive part of the Cyprus problem. TC's will not give up their protection rights all public polls are showing very clearly. Even leaders are agreed public will say no at referendum.

It appears they were looking for a way out of the talks as they felt they were losing ground happened during the AP, by picking the most sensative issue and passing a resolution knowing full well that it is invalid just to scupper the negotiations process....lets hope our side can now capatilize on this big mistake as this stage of the talks. 18 months down the drainç

[B25]

The GCs have done it again...the only road left is status quo and a relaxation of isolation on the TRNC leading to recognition and return of refugee rights.

VP, My fellow TCs and the 'TRNC' government officials, do you and did you expect the legitimate RoC government and its people to accept any agreement that would unilaterally give guarantor rights to Turkey??

i mean seriously, are you really that surprised at this resolution?? This is a long time coming, if the RoC failed anywhere is that where they never stated their intentions up front and have been pussy footing about with your puppet and the coffee morning talks.

Seriously, if you were in our shoes, would you accept such an arrangement??

All the shit a side for the moment, let us just look at this one item, would you accept it??

Do you realize you are unable to erase this from your consititution without the UK Turkey Greece and most importantly the TCs? This shoudl have been negotiated in by your leader, big mistake the fall out is surely to follow how can they go on negotiating when you GCs have effective tied Christofias hands behind his back?

VP you didn't (deliberately) answer my question, but went on the spout Erolz ranting.

Answer the question please.

I would accept whom ever you wanted for your security.

Given Turkeys history I don't believe you. Get someone else and we will consider it. How about EU/UN?? Turkeys has too much self interest to do the job. You might as well get a turkish ref to act during a world cup match between turkey and someone else. Do you think that would be acceptable worldwide??

No, I don't think so, hence you are being unreasonable.

[Viewpoint]

Isnt Greece the equivelent to Turkey? the only difference is Turkey took action to bring a peaceful exsistence to both TCs and GCs.

I have no problems with your right to choose whom ever you wish why do you want to deny me this right when its only Turkey we really trust? It makes us very suspisious of your real motives.

[halil]

The GCs have done it again...the only road left is statusqou and a relaxation of isolation on the TRNC.

roads for talks are narrowing every passing hour. not much left for the election.TC public watching very carefully every move of the Greek side. Up to now only negative signs coming up . Before the last GC desicion on their parliment they have been warned.

Halil now its time for the big nations to move after yet another move from the GC side clearly showing they are not interested in a solution.

VP, public is watching carefully every movement the GC side does. Public opinions about the quarantees were well knowing by everybody in Cyprus.
It is a very sensitive part of the Cyprus problem. TC's will not give up their protection rights all public polls are showing very clearly. Even leaders are agreed public will say no at referendum.

It appears they were looking for a way out of the talks as they felt they were losing ground happened during the AP, by picking the most sensative issue and passing a resolution knowing full well that it is invalid just to scupper the negotiations process....lets hope our side can now capatilize on this big mistake as this stage of the talks. 18 months down the drainç

From political parties and public reactiones TC's will not give any credit VP,

already public sociaties(unions) are started to give their demands today. I bet you have seen on the papers and tv's as well .more reactiones will come out tomorrow.

[cymart]

Only a five part meeting with the three guarantors and both sides in Cyprus can resolve this issue-and indeed most of the others.It's high time one was arranged before anything else is said or done which might have very negative repercussions for everyone...