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[Oracle]

So, the 15% minority who thought they were going to lose 50% of the 'Political Equality' they unjustly consumed in the 60s decided it was fine to offset this by a 40% "Land Grab" from innocent EU citizens.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2010-02-19

What's more, these two wrongs do not seem to pose any moral dilemmas for them ... I suppose it helps that Eroglu and his kin are brainless, without conscience and sadly lacking in all aspects of Humanity!

[miltiades]

Interesting article by Hurriyet , an admission perhaps , one of the first to appear since the conclusion reached by the Royal Courts of Justice upholding the now fundamental ECJ .
The 19th of January 2010 was the cornerstone , or rather the tombstone on the demise of the "trnc" , the admission that the biggest revenue earner has come to a grinding halt .
Now let us turn our attention to those with whom we will , like it or not, share this island as equals .

[Viewpoint]

Nothing has changed in the TRNC life goes on as normal and will do as long the GCs continue with their current mindset.

[miltiades]

Nothing has changed in the TRNC life goes on as normal and will do as long the GCs continue with their current mindset.

Tell us what you think this mindset is VP.

[Viewpoint]

Nothing has changed in the TRNC life goes on as normal and will do as long the GCs continue with their current mindset.

Tell us what you think this mindset is VP.

The GCs mindset is so obviousl is despot and one tracked, their belief is because they are numerically larger than us that makes them the dominant partner, and that we should accept minority rights living under a unitary system that would give them control over the whole island to administer democracy and human rights GC style, we will not be exposed to this and rather live in a TRNC a 1000 times worse than capitulate to GC demands. Gcs have to come to terms with the reality that it is not majority minority it is a partnership deal under a BBF structure with political equality of the states north and south, when they wake up to this reality then maybe we can agree a solution until then its staus quo and each man for themselves.

[miltiades]

As you know VP , I have always maintained that there are no majorities or minorities in Cyprus if all embrace Cyprus as their homeland and ditch the foreign elements , ie Turkey and Greece, you on the other hand has always believed Turkeys position that there are two nations in Cyprus , a Turkish nation and a Greek nation. Precisely why a solution is proving to be so elusive.
We have one massively important common ground and that is the island of Cyprus , creating and worshiping divisive
ideologies can not be inducive to a peaceful resolution .

[Viewpoint]

As you know VP , I have always maintained that there are no majorities or minorities in Cyprus if all embrace Cyprus as their homeland and ditch the foreign elements , ie Turkey and Greece, you on the other hand has always believed Turkeys position that there are two nations in Cyprus , a Turkish nation and a Greek nation. Precisely why a solution is proving to be so elusive.
We have one massively important common ground and that is the island of Cyprus , creating and worshiping divisive
ideologies can not be inducive to a peaceful resolution .

Miltiades you are trying to get to stage 10 without going through the other states both side mistrust each other to the degree of genuine paranoia. The fact that we have lived apart for 36 years is another contributing factor to your point about both sides being more Turkish or Greek than Cypriot but this togethrness and Cypriotism ideology will only develop over time with understanding and concrete steps to erase the fear embedded deeply in everones subconsious. The only way forward is through stages 1 2 3 4.... and stage one is a BBF a partnership of the 2 sides that will help us understand that we are all better off united than divided but unfortunately all we see and read is that GCs demand the removal of our security and that we become just another minority in a Gc state run by GCs, how many TCs do you really think will accept such an offer?

[Oracle]

... The fact that we have lived apart for 36 years is another contributing factor to your point about both sides being more Turkish or Greek than Cypriot ...

Sorry VP, but you couldn't be further from the truth about Greek Cypriots.

Whilst 36 years under the influence of Turkey, the TCs (what is left of them) may have become more Turkish, the converse could not be further from the truth. The Greek Cypriots are as European and as International as any other Occidental citizen on this planet.

[Get Real!]

...their belief is because they are numerically larger than us that makes them the dominant partner, and that we should accept minority rights living under a unitary system.......

There never was a “partnership”… it’s all in your heads! The RoC was a UNITARY state with just a (30-70) imbalance in the House of Reps and that’s where the buck stopped!

A constitution that you (1) ABANDONED, (2) DECLARED NULL & VOID, and later (3) VIOLATED with the declaration of the illegal “TRNC”!

You have no legs to stand on! It's over...

[Viewpoint]

...their belief is because they are numerically larger than us that makes them the dominant partner, and that we should accept minority rights living under a unitary system.......

There never was a “partnership”… it’s all in your heads! The RoC was a UNITARY state with just a (30-70) imbalance in the House of Reps and that’s where the buck stopped!

A constitution that you (1) ABANDONED, (2) DECLARED NULL & VOID, and later (3) VIOLATED with the declaration of the illegal “TRNC”!

You have no legs to stand on! It's over...

from where Im sitting a 30% 70% split and a TC Veto is called a partnership in my book, thats why you are neogitating BBF today another form of partnership. Time you put that into your heads.