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Eroglu Believes "Two Wrongs Make a Right".

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Postby wyoming cowboy » Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:48 pm

VP what you need to put into your head, is that a 30/70 split, is a democratic republic with a majority ethnic group and a minority, which is the Tc. Civil rights to all on Cyprus is inallianable and still are to this day...You added the infamous VETO, which is nothing more then a balance against the violation of civil rights to the minority TC.....The TC on the other hand swayed by promises of TAKSIM, abandoned and volunteraly withdrew from the government, after 5 years of function...After 40 years of war and bloodshed on both sides, which is directly attributed to the TC......
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:13 pm

wyoming cowboy wrote:VP what you need to put into your head, is that a 30/70 split, is a democratic republic with a majority ethnic group and a minority, which is the Tc. Civil rights to all on Cyprus is inallianable and still are to this day...You added the infamous VETO, which is nothing more then a balance against the violation of civil rights to the minority TC.....The TC on the other hand swayed by promises of TAKSIM, abandoned and volunteraly withdrew from the government, after 5 years of function...After 40 years of war and bloodshed on both sides, which is directly attributed to the TC......


Some TCs would swear even today that they had guns placed at their heads to leave governement, so I would prefer to accept the statement of people who actually livied through the incident than your propaganda. I like the way you so conveniently dismiss our veto, when it doesnt wuit you dismiss it, well it aint going away we have rights and you have to respect them in a new agreement, the problem is not democracy but those that administer it, if you think I am giving you the right to use it as you wish without my effective input then you are very deluded and will die knowing there will never be a solution in Cyprus, you have to accept a BBF with political equality of the 2 states as supported and dıcumented by the UN and and the majority of the world, get that into your head.
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Postby wyoming cowboy » Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:23 pm

Your baloney propaganda about guns to people in parliament is stupid unless you show some evidence for it.. "were there any parliamentarians shot killed, or maimed by GC to leave or is this your daddy telling you stories to exagerate reality.....Its more likely that your own people put guns to your own senators to leave....is that a minute detail you werent told about? First you have to understand what a democracy is: and what you signed in Zurich......MAJORITY RULES get that into your head...thats what you signed and agreed to in
Zurich in 1959...The Veto was a ploy by the British to get you to agree....There is no democracy in this world that gives its minority the right to have equal powers in government.......THEN IT WOULDNT BE A DEMOCRACY...The Veto power in the Cyprus constitution is there to ensure all minorities civil and moral rights...THATS IT........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wyoming cowboy wrote:VP what you need to put into your head, is that a 30/70 split, is a democratic republic with a majority ethnic group and a minority, which is the Tc. Civil rights to all on Cyprus is inallianable and still are to this day...You added the infamous VETO, which is nothing more then a balance against the violation of civil rights to the minority TC.....The TC on the other hand swayed by promises of TAKSIM, abandoned and volunteraly withdrew from the government, after 5 years of function...After 40 years of war and bloodshed on both sides, which is directly attributed to the TC......


Some TCs would swear even today that they had guns placed at their heads to leave governement, so I would prefer to accept the statement of people who actually livied through the incident than your propaganda. I like the way you so conveniently dismiss our veto, when it doesnt wuit you dismiss it, well it aint going away we have rights and you have to respect them in a new agreement, the problem is not democracy but those that administer it, if you think I am giving you the right to use it as you wish without my effective input then you are very deluded and will die knowing there will never be a solution in Cyprus, you have to accept a BBF with political equality of the 2 states as supported and dıcumented by the UN and and the majority of the world, get that into your head.
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Postby DTA » Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:37 pm

wyoming cowboy wrote:Your baloney propaganda about guns to people in parliament is stupid unless you show some evidence for it.. "were there any parliamentarians shot killed, or maimed by GC to leave or is this your daddy telling you stories to exagerate reality.....Its more likely that your own people put guns to your own senators to leave....is that a minute detail you werent told about? First you have to understand what a democracy is: and what you signed in Zurich......MAJORITY RULES get that into your head...thats what you signed and agreed to in
Zurich in 1959...The Veto was a ploy by the British to get you to agree....There is no democracy in this world that gives its minority the right to have equal powers in government.......THEN IT WOULDNT BE A DEMOCRACY...The Veto power in the Cyprus constitution is there to ensure all minorities civil and moral rights...THATS IT........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wyoming cowboy wrote:VP what you need to put into your head, is that a 30/70 split, is a democratic republic with a majority ethnic group and a minority, which is the Tc. Civil rights to all on Cyprus is inallianable and still are to this day...You added the infamous VETO, which is nothing more then a balance against the violation of civil rights to the minority TC.....The TC on the other hand swayed by promises of TAKSIM, abandoned and volunteraly withdrew from the government, after 5 years of function...After 40 years of war and bloodshed on both sides, which is directly attributed to the TC......


Some TCs would swear even today that they had guns placed at their heads to leave governement, so I would prefer to accept the statement of people who actually livied through the incident than your propaganda. I like the way you so conveniently dismiss our veto, when it doesnt wuit you dismiss it, well it aint going away we have rights and you have to respect them in a new agreement, the problem is not democracy but those that administer it, if you think I am giving you the right to use it as you wish without my effective input then you are very deluded and will die knowing there will never be a solution in Cyprus, you have to accept a BBF with political equality of the 2 states as supported and dıcumented by the UN and and the majority of the world, get that into your head.


Did the GCs agree to the Vito? yes or no?

and the fact that it is easier for you to believe that it was our own people with the guns to the head of our own parlimentarians just shows the level of bias and racism that you have bought in to.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:05 pm

Even the UN envoy, Downer, doesn't know what to say about this irrational non-entity:

Asked about the “day after” in case Dervis Eroglu wins the illegal elections among the Turkish Cypriot community, Downer refrained from commenting on that but he expressed the view that “if Talat wins, there will be continuity; if it is Eroglou, we don`t know how he will approach it”.

Source: FamagustaGazette.com
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Postby Oracle » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:20 pm

Pretty soon none of his buddies will be left around to help him .... :lol:


Turkish Army Says Situation ‘Serious’ After Arrests

February 24, 2010
By Steve Bryant and Mark Bentley

Turkey’s army said the detention of officers over an alleged coup plot was a “serious situation,” in the sharpest escalation of tensions with the government since a 2007 showdown that led to early elections.

The top commanders gathered at military headquarters in Ankara late yesterday to discuss the detention of more than 40 serving and retired officers, the army said on its Web site. Those arrested in a series of police raids on Feb. 22 included former heads of the air force and navy.

Turkish stocks and bonds fell for a third day as the arrests deepened strains between Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the army, which has ousted four governments since 1960. Erdogan, whose Justice and Development Party has roots in political Islam, has curtailed the secular generals’ influence over decision-making as Turkey chases European Union membership.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-0 ... ate1-.html

Destroy yourselves!
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Postby runaway » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:20 pm

Oracle wrote:Even the UN envoy, Downer, doesn't know what to say about this irrational non-entity:

Asked about the “day after” in case Dervis Eroglu wins the illegal elections among the Turkish Cypriot community, Downer refrained from commenting on that but he expressed the view that “if Talat wins, there will be continuity; if it is Eroglou, we don`t know how he will approach it”.

Source: FamagustaGazette.com



Whether the president will be Talat or Eroğlu, you will be negotiating with Türkiye at the end of the day so you should better accept Türkiye's offer of Türkiye-Greece-KKTC-south cyprus (+ UK maybe) round table talks.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:24 pm

runaway wrote:
Oracle wrote:Even the UN envoy, Downer, doesn't know what to say about this irrational non-entity:

Asked about the “day after” in case Dervis Eroglu wins the illegal elections among the Turkish Cypriot community, Downer refrained from commenting on that but he expressed the view that “if Talat wins, there will be continuity; if it is Eroglou, we don`t know how he will approach it”.

Source: FamagustaGazette.com

Whether the president will be Talat or Eroğlu, you will be negotiating with Türkiye at the end of the day so you should better accept Türkiye's offer of Türkiye-Greece-KKTC-south cyprus (+ UK maybe) round table talks.

And why on earth would the respectable RoC want to have a meeting with the three gypsies you mention? :lol:
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Postby DT. » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:25 pm

runaway wrote:
Oracle wrote:Even the UN envoy, Downer, doesn't know what to say about this irrational non-entity:

Asked about the “day after” in case Dervis Eroglu wins the illegal elections among the Turkish Cypriot community, Downer refrained from commenting on that but he expressed the view that “if Talat wins, there will be continuity; if it is Eroglou, we don`t know how he will approach it”.

Source: FamagustaGazette.com



Whether the president will be Talat or Eroğlu, you will be negotiating with Türkiye at the end of the day so you should better accept Türkiye's offer of Türkiye-Greece-KKTC-south cyprus (+ UK maybe) round table talks.


Since you admit that the pseudostate has no voice and
you will be negotiating with Türkiye at the end of the day
. And we admit that Greece has no need to enter in these discussion because the government of Cyprus calls the shots...why not a Cyprus - Turkey Tete a tete?
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Postby B25 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:37 pm

Oracle wrote:Pretty soon none of his buddies will be left around to help him .... :lol:


Turkish Army Says Situation ‘Serious’ After Arrests

February 24, 2010
By Steve Bryant and Mark Bentley

Turkey’s army said the detention of officers over an alleged coup plot was a “serious situation,” in the sharpest escalation of tensions with the government since a 2007 showdown that led to early elections.

The top commanders gathered at military headquarters in Ankara late yesterday to discuss the detention of more than 40 serving and retired officers, the army said on its Web site. Those arrested in a series of police raids on Feb. 22 included former heads of the air force and navy.

Turkish stocks and bonds fell for a third day as the arrests deepened strains between Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the army, which has ousted four governments since 1960. Erdogan, whose Justice and Development Party has roots in political Islam, has curtailed the secular generals’ influence over decision-making as Turkey chases European Union membership.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-0 ... ate1-.html

Destroy yourselves!


Now would be a good time for the PKK to be making plans. :wink:

One never knows when the balance can change
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