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[Viewpoint]

Nevertheless why was the Republic a viable functioning entity, for four full years before the Turk cyps decided they didnt want this system, afterall....My question to all cypriots is why after four full years the Tc began to arm themselves and deny the ROC the right to exercise its authority in all corners of Cyprus?

hello do you recall a little problem called enosis?

[Kikapu]

Neither Turkey or Greece or England should qualify as a future guarantor for a united RoC. The reason is simple. In case of hostilities, these quarantors will take sides to impose their own will.

What we need is a neutral country or a force made of neutral countries similar to the UN peace keepers but well armed and ready to combat in order to maintain order in the island.

The RoC shall pay for stationing such a force as we do now with UN.

This proposed force may be of European nature. RoC is Europe "land".

Georgios100

how can we trust an eu force to act in time or unbiasedly?

Why unbiased. Both the GCs and the TCs are EU citizens, both living on EU member state and territory.! Did I miss something.??

[Malapapa]

Neither Turkey or Greece or England should qualify as a future guarantor for a united RoC. The reason is simple. In case of hostilities, these quarantors will take sides to impose their own will.

What we need is a neutral country or a force made of neutral countries similar to the UN peace keepers but well armed and ready to combat in order to maintain order in the island.

The RoC shall pay for stationing such a force as we do now with UN.

This proposed force may be of European nature. RoC is Europe "land".

Georgios100

how can we trust an eu force to act in time or unbiasedly?

Why unbiased. Both the GCs and the TCs are EU citizens, both living on EU member state and territory.! Did I miss something.??

The EU will be biased against outlaws.

[boulio]

how can we trust an eu force to act in time or unbiasedly

you can add a turkish contingent and a t/c one as well inder parternship for peace:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partnership_for_Peace

[Kikapu]

Neither Turkey or Greece or England should qualify as a future guarantor for a united RoC. The reason is simple. In case of hostilities, these quarantors will take sides to impose their own will.

What we need is a neutral country or a force made of neutral countries similar to the UN peace keepers but well armed and ready to combat in order to maintain order in the island.

The RoC shall pay for stationing such a force as we do now with UN.

This proposed force may be of European nature. RoC is Europe "land".

Georgios100

how can we trust an eu force to act in time or unbiasedly?

Why unbiased. Both the GCs and the TCs are EU citizens, both living on EU member state and territory.! Did I miss something.??

The EU will be biased against outlaws.

Sure MP, but why is VP concerned about the outlaws.?

[georgios100]

Neither Turkey or Greece or England should qualify as a future guarantor for a united RoC. The reason is simple. In case of hostilities, these quarantors will take sides to impose their own will.

What we need is a neutral country or a force made of neutral countries similar to the UN peace keepers but well armed and ready to combat in order to maintain order in the island.

The RoC shall pay for stationing such a force as we do now with UN.

This proposed force may be of European nature. RoC is Europe "land".

Georgios100

how can we trust an eu force to act in time or unbiasedly?

This is interesting... You want to join the EU but you don't trust the EU?
Why would EU be bias on either side? What for?

Act on time? They are to be stationed here, boots on the ground, ready for battle at a moment's notice. In other words... on time!

Georgios100

[Malapapa]

Neither Turkey or Greece or England should qualify as a future guarantor for a united RoC. The reason is simple. In case of hostilities, these quarantors will take sides to impose their own will.

What we need is a neutral country or a force made of neutral countries similar to the UN peace keepers but well armed and ready to combat in order to maintain order in the island.

The RoC shall pay for stationing such a force as we do now with UN.

This proposed force may be of European nature. RoC is Europe "land".

Georgios100

how can we trust an eu force to act in time or unbiasedly?

Why unbiased. Both the GCs and the TCs are EU citizens, both living on EU member state and territory.! Did I miss something.??

The EU will be biased against outlaws.

Sure MP, but why is VP concerned about the outlaws.?

You got me there kiks. What possible reason would a fine, upstanding member of the community such as VP concern himself with the well-being of gangsters? Unless.... no, I simply refuse to believe that VPs integrity has been compromised in some way. For it would make every single utterance he makes on this Forum suspect, worthy of the utmost contempt from all sides.

[denizaksulu]

There cannot be any guarantees from Turkey in Cyprus. They had that privilege back in 1960 and abused it beyond any imagination soon after, along with Greece and Britain, therefore, they only have themselves to blame for not being wanted as a guarantors any longer. At least Greece and Britain now have the good sense not to make such ludicrous demands. I guess they have accepted their failures as guarantors and are willing to let their guarantor memberships expire. Had they ALL used their privileged guarantorships to what they all signed up to do, which they had not, and not only they did not do what they were suppose to do, but instead one had became an occupying power, I'm almost certain there would be no questions asked today as far as them ALL being invited to be guarantors again, had they all did their duties to the benefit of Cyprus and for ALL Cypriots. As the saying goes, "Fuck me once, shame on you.! Fuck me twice, shame on me".! For those who insists that there cannot be a settlement unless Turkey is a guarantor power, they are not looking after the interest of Cyprus and ALL Cypriots, but the interest of ONLY Turkey's and also to keep their Taksim dreams alive by the Fascist NeoPartitionist, only this time Taksim will come in the form as a recognised EU member and not the "Pirates of the Mediterranean" is what we have today in the north.

There are far better and more effective ways to secure everyone security in Cyprus, starting with a constitution that respects Democracy, Human Rights, International Laws and EU Principles than invite the same past "Three Stooges". Had they been the "Three Musketeers", (all for one and one for all), we would not be having this conversation now. If we were to reward bad behaviour in anything, there's no reason why the bad behaviour will not continue again in the future. It's like giving permission for them to become abusive again. Those who say we need Turkey's guarantees are only saying, "we want Turkey's guarantees to achieve Taksim as a recognised EU member". Turkey cannot become a guarantor on one part of the island without violating not only the sovereignty of Cyprus as a whole, but the sovereignty of the 27 EU member nation, which I'm most certain that the EU will not want Turkey to become their guarantor power of any part of her own territory, thank you very much.!

[Viewpoint]

İt is clear now why the two leaders Will not find a solution to can all commit to.

[B25]

İt is clear now why the two leaders Will not find a solution to can all commit to.

Yeah, like you give a damn.

You are the the most facist neopartitionist going, you are begging a breakdown because you THINK, you are going to get you own state. Wet dream on.

How much GC land do you have??? No wonder.

So tell me where's this land of yours in Baf???