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Postby Piratis » Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:08 am

"larnacaman", you are clueless mate. You really have no idea what you are talking about and I will stop wasting my time with an uneducated chav like you.

What I am saying is very clear: Turks (and British) should remove their troops and settlers and stop occupying part of our island and let Cyprus to be free. Once these imperialists stop causing problems to Cyprus with their troops and settlers, we can handle our own island ourselves and it is really non of your business how we will do it. I know we will manage perfectly because we have already done this with the south part of Cyprus under much more difficult conditions and I don't need to convince you about it as it is really none of your business as Cyprus is our country and not yours.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:17 am

larnacaman wrote:Funny, everyone has lot's to say about everything else on this thread, ....But still no idea's on paying for the Norths reconstruction program!! ....Strange!!

That’s your bloody problem not ours! Why do you think they’re selling you those rectangular cubes that are about the size of my garage, they call “villas” for such ridiculous prices? :lol:
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Postby larnacaman » Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:28 am

GR,

I don't know, there not even the size of my garage!!! Funny though, seen quite a few young Cypriot families moving into those Garage sized villa's/houses ... I wonder what that says about about your argument... me i just don't know!!!....

Oh, and it will be your problem, but it'll be others deciding for you. So you'll just be paying for it into old age !!!
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Postby larnacaman » Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:51 am

Piratis,

Why am i clueless ?? I can see the cost's and i can see the time scales involved. i've been in Construction almost all of my working life. For the last 15 years or so of my overseas career, i was either PM2 or PM3 on multi, multi million dollar projects. So i think i have a little understanding what it's going to take to get the North modernised to an acceptable standard. I also know about contractual funding of projects too, government and private clients.

Clueless, ...maybe, but not quite to the level you assume!!

I don't think your quite understanding the enormity, as a Project overall. Even experienced planners, consultants and the like are going to have a tough time getting to grips with it all .... But i Know it's gonna cost this country and others dearly, and it's gonna take a lot longer than you or many are assuming...
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Postby boomerang » Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:34 am

larnacaman wrote:Piratis,

Why am i clueless ?? I can see the cost's and i can see the time scales involved. i've been in Construction almost all of my working life. For the last 15 years or so of my overseas career, i was either PM2 or PM3 on multi, multi million dollar projects. So i think i have a little understanding what it's going to take to get the North modernised to an acceptable standard. I also know about contractual funding of projects too, government and private clients.

Clueless, ...maybe, but not quite to the level you assume!!

I don't think your quite understanding the enormity, as a Project overall. Even experienced planners, consultants and the like are going to have a tough time getting to grips with it all .... But i Know it's gonna cost this country and others dearly, and it's gonna take a lot longer than you or many are assuming...



re building varosha will self fund the whole of Cyprus in case of re unification...

the rebuilding would probably employ, directly and indirectly, up to 20% to 25% the of population with the main beneficiaries accross all employment sectors the tcs...

elevating the tc gdp on par with the roc then the rest would be funded from taxes...

the kisckstart to the whole thing is varosha...
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:38 am

I don't know how you will afford the reconstruction of the north when you can't even balance the books at the moment.
http://www.rttnews.com/Content/AllEcono ... Id=1398930
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Postby growuptcs » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:06 am

vaughanwilliams wrote:I don't know how you will afford the reconstruction of the north when you can't even balance the books at the moment.
http://www.rttnews.com/Content/AllEcono ... Id=1398930


Take your fez off and live like, if there's a will theres a way. Instead of, if there's a will there's a nay.
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:39 am

growuptcs wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:I don't know how you will afford the reconstruction of the north when you can't even balance the books at the moment.
http://www.rttnews.com/Content/AllEcono ... Id=1398930


Take your fez off and live like, if there's a will theres a way. Instead of, if there's a will there's a nay.


Wishful-thinking and blind optimism won't come up with the wegde that will be needed:

Nicosia, Sep 9 (CNA) The estimated cost of reconstruction in the northern Turkish occupied part of Cyprus amounts to six billion Cyprus pounds, a ministerial committee, in charge of planning for the return of displaced persons to municipalities and communities currently under Turkish occupation after a political settlement, has said.
http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/cna/2003 ... na.html#02

and that was a year ago.

Given that RoC annual revenues only total something less than 3BnEuro, if you spent nothing on anything else for 2-3 years, and that wont happen, you could bring the north up to snuff.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:04 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:Given that RoC annual revenues only total something less than 3BnEuro,

:? :lol:

Cyprus' GDP (nominal) is $25 billion p/annum

Cyprus' GDP (nominal) p/capita $30,000
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:27 pm

Rebuilding the occupied territory will indeed be a very costly venture, so an infrastructure Levy of 5% p/annum should be charged to all the corrupt citizens living there and be placed in an interest bearing account with the UN.

Problem solved!
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