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Postby larnacaman » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:59 pm

Vaughan,

I really do think, that these totally clueless morons live in some far off fantasy land!!! Trying to inform or explain anything, even the bare basics that exists in the Real World, is a total non-starter.

Seems that everyone else THAT can see, .....if even the very basic problem, are the mindless one's here, and they should know, after all they are true CG Cypriots!!! I'm sure that they are truly convinced too, ...that all there wishful thinking, WILL win the day in the end. Just a crying shame that only happens in cloud cuckoo land!!!

We've had the forum brain-box GR, tell us that they make 25 billion euro surplus each year, (that was a real cracker!!) Then he's told us that a 5% tax will get them through, and pay for the reconstruction. That got bombed out, ...and we are now awaiting his next big brain storm.... We have Piratis, Trying to tell us they have done it all before. When in actual fact the biggest civil works undertaken in RoC since the invasion was the motorway infrastructure, and who paid for the majority of that?? They expanded the port at Limassol, but have had to keep expanding, because they didn't have the finances to do the job properly in the first place, or since...


As you said in an earlier post, At some stage there is going to be a serious falling out between those GC's that have a claim to land in the North and those that Don't. ...Maybe one way out of that little senerio would be to put a hefty yearly land tax on any reclaimed land in the North, enough to offset what the non-landowners are being made to pay. You can almost see the shit throwing on the CF now, between the two sides....

I still favour what i think the RoC government of the day will do, as an interim measure and that is Private consortium funded projects in return for long leaseholds and/or other payment methods ...that'll piss a good few GCs and TCs off alike!! But even that is a drop in the ocean, it's going to take a lot of financial planning (and not creative accounting) and looking at every conceivable reconstruction plan and applying every angle possible to keep those costs down .... The money side of things, is just pie in the sky as far as the GCs here are conserned, they haven't got a clue past a villa sized project. The GC's with savvy and in the know, will understand what it's going to take, and will either take advantage of the situation, or take flight to save there stashed pots!!

You've opened a can of worms here for the GCs Vaughan, and a can of worms they can't answer, except in there usual shit throwing and bigoted rhetoric that hasn't got them anywhere since this forum was started, and will continue to get them nowhere in the future....
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:59 pm

larnacaman wrote:We've had the forum brain-box GR, tell us that they make 25 billion euro surplus each year,

That’s a word you inserted to create a “convincing effect” but cheap tactics like that can only disgrace you on this forum!

Only a 180° turn away from the very poor start you’ve made on this forum can save your pitiful demise…
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Postby larnacaman » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:08 am

Get real,

Get real wrote: ....''For your info, the RoC makes 25b+ p/a, so she wouldn’t have a problem improving the infrastructure of the occupied territory if it came to that''

Sounds to me, your implying a surplus, your definitely implying that there's more than enough to cover reconstruction costs here. .....We all know this is the Total Income Figure, well sort of, well according to some statistics that's banded about... But we Can all play the same games you like to play with figures GR. What's more, i actually asked if you were stating a surplus or not, .... no comment from you!!! So knowing what an honest and straight up guy you are, i had to take it that is was a surplus ...lol!!!

Now GR, If this was your actual surplus, per year .....How many years do you think that this surplus would be totally wiped out, by reconstruction costs??
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:35 am

larnacaman wrote:Get real,

Get real wrote: ....''For your info, the RoC makes 25b+ p/a, so she wouldn’t have a problem improving the infrastructure of the occupied territory if it came to that''

Sounds to me, your implying a surplus, your definitely implying that there's more than enough to cover reconstruction costs here. .....We all know this is the Total Income Figure, well sort of, well according to some statistics that's banded about... But we Can all play the same games you like to play with figures GR. What's more, i actually asked if you were stating a surplus or not, .... no comment from you!!! So knowing what an honest and straight up guy you are, i had to take it that is was a surplus ...lol!!!

Now GR, If this was your actual surplus, per year .....How many years do you think that this surplus would be totally wiped out, by reconstruction costs??

Piratis, was spot on when he called you a clueless uneducated chav! Image
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Postby larnacaman » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:52 am

Haha, ....You two, ....your like the pot calling the kettle black. And Piratis couldn't spot anything, unless it was pointed out for him...

Hmmm, I wonder, ....exactly what educational level you ever attained GR?? My guess is that you just went through the system and came out the other end, with Sod All to show for it!!! A bit like your present life really ....
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:13 am

larnacaman wrote:Haha, ....You two, ....your like the pot calling the kettle black. And Piratis couldn't spot anything, unless it was pointed out for him...

Hmmm, I wonder, ....exactly what educational level you ever attained GR?? My guess is that you just went through the system and came out the other end, with Sod All to show for it!!! A bit like your present life really ....

:shock: Wow! You've got it all figured out... 8)









chav! :lol:
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Postby larnacaman » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:38 am

Yep!! ...And pretty Sound too!!
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Postby Piratis » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:27 am

We have Piratis, Trying to tell us they have done it all before. When in actual fact the biggest civil works undertaken in RoC since the invasion was the motorway infrastructure, and who paid for the majority of that?? They expanded the port at Limassol, but have had to keep expanding, because they didn't have the finances to do the job properly in the first place, or since...


If that is all we have done for the free part of Cyprus to bring it to the level where it is today then all we will have to do for the north part is to build one motorway and expand a port slightly and then we are done. You have just defeated your own argument :lol:

In reality there are vastly more public works in Cyprus, but most importantly it is the Cypriot people, with their private investments and work that brought Cyprus where it is today and they can do the same with the north part of Cyprus once it is returned to us. The only difference is that this time it will be much easier because this time we would be taking back our land, as opposed to being forced out of it.

So, if the Turkish troops and settlers are removed from Cyprus and the Cypriot people are allowed to rule freely and democratically their whole island then the whole Cyprus will prosper just like the free part of Cyprus is prospering today.
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Postby larnacaman » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:32 pm

Piratis,

You really can't see the bigger picture can you?? The EU is plowing money into RoC even now, to bring your side of the Island up to an acceptable standard. So don't run away with the idea that all was sorted out by yourselves during the prevailing years since the loss of the North you bloody well haven't.... Your economy has never been able to keep pace with the real requirements of the South, no matter how much you pump up your achievements. You really do need to open your eyes.

This is the very thing Vaughan was trying to tell you. The EU money that is now raising standards and modernising the South, will STOP!! That money will be transferred to the North where They Deem will be the greater need.

Just exactly what do you mean by ''Cyprus is prospering today'' ?? Where, How?? You only just scrape through..
It's one thing to be Patriotic, and i know you are in your own way, but you also need to get your head out of the clouds and take a deep breath of reality.... honestly, you really do!!
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:48 pm

larnacaman wrote:You really can't see the bigger picture can you?? The EU is plowing money into RoC even now, to bring your side of the Island up to an acceptable standard. So don't run away with the idea that all was sorted out by yourselves during the prevailing years since the loss of the North you bloody well haven't.... Your economy has never been able to keep pace with the real requirements of the South, no matter how much you pump up your achievements. You really do need to open your eyes.

Hey Dodo, Cyprus has been a *net contributor to the EU since 2007!

http://www.eu-oplysningen.dk/euo_en/spsv/all/79/

* The country has paid more towards the EU’s budget than it should if there were to be a balance between payments and receipts between the EU and the Member State.


Once again, unless you get your facts right with FACTS & FIGURES FROM CREDIBLE SOURCES, your daft assumptions can only make a laughing stock out of you! Image
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