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Ok this is going to be controversial... Pt1

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby YFred » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:44 am

DTA wrote:
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DTA wrote: ... And why do they want to 'hold' on to the north of cyprus? please try to give a sensible answer (I know you wont - but prove me wrong if you can)


About what? :?


About giving a sensible answer.

DTA have you ever tried milking a bull, you have more chance of that then getting a sensible answer from the said forumer.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:45 am

DTA wrote:
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DTA wrote: ... And why do they want to 'hold' on to the north of cyprus? please try to give a sensible answer (I know you wont - but prove me wrong if you can)


About what? :?


About giving a sensible answer.


Perhaps you should first demonstrate what a "sensible answer" is, just so that I know where I am going wrong.
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Postby DTA » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:46 am

apc2010 wrote:Dta as i said originally it is like the Falklands,politics , how could Turkey now pull out all the troops and aid without a backlash from their voters.


I think that is a good point, but if that is the case would they not look for a way to leave the Island without upsetting the voters, for example a comprehensive solution?
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Postby DTA » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:50 am

apc2010 wrote:More importantly to me... where is ..."Ok this is going to be conttroversial Pt. 2"...


It is coming maybe next weekend, the problem is with the second one (as it stands now) it is a a very sensitive subject to GC and I dont want to be insensitive, So I will have to think on it a little, and see if it is worth posting.
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Postby apc2010 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:56 am

Most people in the uk dont give a crap about the Falklands, most dont even know where it is ,it costs over one million sterling a day to keep it (inc bases, military etc) BUT if a government said we are GIVING back them you watch how long they last.Pride and Politics same as Cyprus
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Postby DTA » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:05 am

apc2010 wrote:Most people in the uk dont give a crap about the Falklands, most dont even know where it is ,it costs over one million sterling a day to keep it (inc bases, military etc) BUT if a government said we are GIVING back them you watch how long they last.Pride and Politics same as Cyprus


I agree with you to an extent (as the history of cyprus is very different to the falklands) but nevertheless. if the Uk had an excuse to leave the falklands with full public support would they not do it?
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Postby apc2010 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:12 am

not the same history agreed but both conflicts had lose of life in THIS generation, this makes things alot harder,with Cyprus you can see from this forum the "views" of each side there is a lot to do.Did the uk give back cyprus easily ....
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Postby Me Ed » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:38 am

As one forumer commented, the reason why Turkey has a relationship with the "trnc" has changed since '74.

Turkey is now usng the TCs as a cheap bargaining tool in a misguided attempt to achieve its political gains.

Turkeys strategy is to present the TCs as victims in an attempt that they will gain recongnition, but no state in the world (not even a muslim state) wants to acknowledge this because it presents the worse possible presedent - basically the "trnc" is a shit cake no one wants to eat.

Turkey tried and failed to use the TCs to block Cyprus' ascension into the EU, but no state in the world bought this.

Turkey is even trying to use the TCs to gain entry into the EU, but everyone can see through this shallow tactic. If the polititians in Turkey had any intelligence the could be in the EU in a couple of years.

... and before any TC/Turk forumers comment on the EU, Turkeys' policy is still full membership of the EU whether you like or agree with it or not - and as for any comments against the EU ascension, I recommend the Greek story-teller Aesops fable, "The Fox and Grapes".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes

As for the original question, I recommend that Turkey seriously re-assesses its relationship with the "trnc".
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Postby Gasman » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:18 am

Did the uk give back cyprus easily ....


Well, they still haven't 'given back' all of it have they? They've retained about 3%.
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