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[DTA]

...if turkey continued, it would have started WW III.
Nope not a chance.


...if turkey continued, the act would have been clearly an invasion without an alternative explanation. so by not continuing then they did not invade?

...if turkey continued, they would have a population as aggressive as the Kurds to contend with. firstly 80% of Kurdish people are the brothers of Turks and have no support for the PKK that is why roughly 80% of Kurds living in Turkey vote for mainstream political parties rather then sepratist ones - Did you guys know that?

GCs are a tiny population compared to the Kurd so I dont really think you have a point.

...if turkey continued, they would have not have become the regional power, but a pariah. Maybe but maybe not alot of GC claim that Turkey had the backing of the USA no?

You didnt want to answer my question then?

[wyoming cowboy]

what is turkey getting probably nothing......but they are protecting their tc brethren, they have convinced the tc that the big bad GC boogey man is out to get them, every tc has their own turk soldier protecting them.....

But what does Turkey get out of the relationship with TRNC ?

Land grab - I dont see it- Turkey has enough land even for its growing population.

Financial incentives - this cant be true- it supports the TRNC to the tune of hundreds of millions each year.

Political reasons - not on the international scene as it has cost Turkey a lot.

Security - well with the Greek military junta of the 70s yes- but what now?

So what?

Try to keep this as civilized as possible please (both sides)

[vaughanwilliams]

I know from friends who were in the British Army based at the SBA.s during the invasion that the Turks were warned in no uncertain terms as they approached the bases: "one more Fucking step and you'll be fighting against us"; they didn't advance any further.

I think the whole problem was down to the Soviet Union courting the Cypriot Government at the time and the fear of the allies that the Soviets would get a base on Cyprus; press the Greek Junta to stage a coup and press the Turks to invade to help the Turkish Cypriots and that's your problem solved. Very American.

Jimski

1972 - Malta - Soviet bases?
It nearly happened - why take the chance of it happeneing in Cyprus?

[wyoming cowboy]

it nearly happened in malta you say in 72, and with cyprus and its huge communist party it could of happened in cyprus.....hmm and all along yo stick with the rhetoric that the tc were in danger and turkey needed to invade to save them....

I know from friends who were in the British Army based at the SBA.s during the invasion that the Turks were warned in no uncertain terms as they approached the bases: "one more Fucking step and you'll be fighting against us"; they didn't advance any further.

I think the whole problem was down to the Soviet Union courting the Cypriot Government at the time and the fear of the allies that the Soviets would get a base on Cyprus; press the Greek Junta to stage a coup and press the Turks to invade to help the Turkish Cypriots and that's your problem solved. Very American.

Jimski

1972 - Malta - Soviet bases?
It nearly happened - why take the chance of it happeneing in Cyprus?

[wyoming cowboy]

Ask the turks what happened to them in Lapithos, and also around Nicosia airport, the turks claim in total 300 some odd deaths, 500 wounded, at the airport alone they lost that many in 3 days...according to eldyk forces....i have heard and its been written in Turkish and Greek books from eyewitnesses that their casualties were as high as 37,000, with 17000 dead Turk soldiers...that number seems high but people that fought against them were the ones saying that in certain areas they advanced in Human waves trying to overtake Gc positions, more specifically at Lapithos and the Gerolakos areas....

...as far as I understand they got to the attila line with minimal casualties.

What is "minimal casualties"?

well they done it in two day didnt they?

Took three days alone to "take" Kyrenia, five miles from the invasion beaches, and that only after air and sea bombardment.

[vaughanwilliams]

it nearly happened in malta you say in 72, and with cyprus and its huge communist party it could of happened in cyprus.....hmm and all along yo stick with the rhetoric that the tc were in danger and turkey needed to invade to save them....

I know from friends who were in the British Army based at the SBA.s during the invasion that the Turks were warned in no uncertain terms as they approached the bases: "one more Fucking step and you'll be fighting against us"; they didn't advance any further.

I think the whole problem was down to the Soviet Union courting the Cypriot Government at the time and the fear of the allies that the Soviets would get a base on Cyprus; press the Greek Junta to stage a coup and press the Turks to invade to help the Turkish Cypriots and that's your problem solved. Very American.

Jimski

1972 - Malta - Soviet bases?
It nearly happened - why take the chance of it happening in Cyprus?

I still maintain that to be the case.
However, after Malta it might have become a matter of killing two birds with one stone and something the Yanks/Brits would be happy to go along with.
Convenient, don't you think?

[londoner]

There are many Greek Islands closer to the Turkish mainland than Cyprus the security answer always sounds a bit ridiculous

[vaughanwilliams]

There are many Greek Islands closer to the Turkish mainland than Cyprus the security answer always sounds a bit ridiculous

Cyprus would have been a real asset to Russia, and taken with what happened after 1967 in Aden, UK/USA would not have been prepared to countenance it in Cyprus.
Under the circumstances, they might have been prepared to look the other way.

[kentish]

what does turkey get out of the relationship with the trnc ?

yes thats exactly it,the answer is in the question.turkey gets a relationship with turkish cypriots.had the turkish peacekeeping force not arrived there would have been no turkish cypriots left for turkey to have a relationship with.

get it you morons.we will all be long gone before there is any chage in cyprus and when the change comes it will be recognition of a seperate state but that wont happen for a long long time.be prepared to have pointless arguments and name calling on this forum for a long time

[Get Real!]

what does turkey get out of the relationship with the trnc ?

yes thats exactly it,the answer is in the question.

I'm impressed!

You've earned a burritos! ---> 0