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Postby YFred » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:02 pm

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halil wrote:Recommendations for future steps
Creating the conditions for dialogue


1: Encourage and support mono-communal work: If each community can develop more open communication between grassroots and policymakers and a less positiondriven approach to decision making, these lessons will have a positive knock-on effect for inter-communal interaction. Mono-communal dialogue could also help address issues such as racial intolerance that need to be addressed effectively within each community but also have wider implications for bi-communal interaction.

2: Provide reliable sources of information to inform discussion: Cyprus appears to suffer from a lack of reliable information sources to inform discussion. Readily available unbiased information will provide the conditions for open public mono-communal and bicommunal
dialogue.Dialogue processes

3: Structure dialogue around concrete issues of relevance to both communities:
The opportunity for contact no longer provides much incentive for participation.Incentives can be generated by promoting dialogue on concrete issues affecting both communities.

4: Incorporate Greek and Turkish representatives in dialogue on the Cyprus Problem: The resolution of the Cyprus Problem will depend not only on Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots but also on Greece and Turkey, the ‘motherlands’ of the two communities to whom they have long felt attached. The involvement of Greek and Turkish individual participants is essential to expand Cypriot understanding of the positions, needs and emotional responses of the other communities involved.

rest of the report will be tomorrow.....

You're wasting your time. Unless GC land & properties are 100% returned, we’re not interested in any dialogues!

It's been said zillions of times before. All or nothing will lead to nothing.

What you didn’t own you’ll never have and I want you OFF the island just for thinking you could!

Hosht, vromo vosko shillo
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Postby halil » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:13 pm

Poor GR Cyprus problem nothing to do with property. Cyprus problem not started from the propery arguments ......

GR sees what he wants to see and he don't see how much both communities have suffered..he think just because they are "greek"-cypriots .......

Forget about the lollypop GR ................. let him to moan about with his credibility :lol: :wink:



Peace in Cyprus can only be achieved if we know the true history of our country from both sides.If we want to build our country's future for us and for our children,we must think with our heart first and then with our nation.It's hard to forgive and forget.But what we can do is learn from our mistakes and work for peace so the next generations won't have to suffer from the consequences of hatred and fanaticism...
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:18 pm

halil wrote:...what we can do is learn from our mistakes

Your mistake was coming here uninvited in the first place, and murdering 20,000 Cypriots in the first day alone!

OTTOMAN RULE

Throughout the period of Venetian rule, Ottoman Turks raided and attacked at will. In 1489, the first year of Venetian control, Turks attacked the Karpas Peninsula, pillaging and taking captives to be sold into slavery. In 1539 the Turkish fleet attacked and destroyed Limassol. Fearing the ever-expanding Ottoman Empire, the Venetians had fortified Famagusta, Nicosia, and Kyrenia, but most other cities were easy prey.

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted. Word of the massacre spread, and a few days later Mustafa took Kyrenia without having to fire a shot. Famagusta, however, resisted and put up a heroic defense that lasted from September 1570 until August 1571.


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Postby apc2010 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:22 pm

Seriously a 450 year old grudge....Yet we have no solution ...
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:27 pm

apc2010 wrote:Seriously a 450 year old grudge....Yet we have no solution ...

The murders, rapes, ill treatment, and overall decline of Cyprus and Cypriots went on for another 300+ years...

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle04.htm

...and that's not counting all the shit from last century!

After 400+ years of misery this bad Ottoman experiment hasn’t worked and it’s high time they did the honorable thing and returned home to Turkey where they belong!
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Postby apc2010 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:31 pm

Should the Uk hold a German ,Argentinian ,Irish ,Cypriot grudge .History is what it is history
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Postby Malapapa » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:32 pm

halil wrote:Poor GR Cyprus problem nothing to do with property. Cyprus problem not started from the propery arguments ......

GR sees what he wants to see and he don't see how much both communities have suffered..he think just because they are "greek"-cypriots .......

Forget about the lollypop GR ................. let him to moan about with his credibility :lol: :wink:



Peace in Cyprus can only be achieved if we know the true history of our country from both sides.If we want to build our country's future for us and for our children,we must think with our heart first and then with our nation.It's hard to forgive and forget.But what we can do is learn from our mistakes and work for peace so the next generations won't have to suffer from the consequences of hatred and fanaticism...


It's hard to forgive and forget but Christofias took a very hard step and apologised. Why didn't Talat reciprocate (do the same), halil?
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Postby halil » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:59 pm

Malapapa wrote:
halil wrote:Poor GR Cyprus problem nothing to do with property. Cyprus problem not started from the propery arguments ......

GR sees what he wants to see and he don't see how much both communities have suffered..he think just because they are "greek"-cypriots .......

Forget about the lollypop GR ................. let him to moan about with his credibility :lol: :wink:



Peace in Cyprus can only be achieved if we know the true history of our country from both sides.If we want to build our country's future for us and for our children,we must think with our heart first and then with our nation.It's hard to forgive and forget.But what we can do is learn from our mistakes and work for peace so the next generations won't have to suffer from the consequences of hatred and fanaticism...


It's hard to forgive and forget but Christofias took a very hard step and apologised. Why didn't Talat reciprocate (do the same), halil?


how do u know that he didn't ? may be he did .

whenever we meet with TC and GC's we regret to each other about past mistakes. As i said important is forgive and not to spread hate between our kids.First every individual must start from his own front door for cleaning at the end whole street will clean and no one was tired.
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Postby Malapapa » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:24 pm

halil wrote:
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halil wrote:Poor GR Cyprus problem nothing to do with property. Cyprus problem not started from the propery arguments ......

GR sees what he wants to see and he don't see how much both communities have suffered..he think just because they are "greek"-cypriots .......

Forget about the lollypop GR ................. let him to moan about with his credibility :lol: :wink:



Peace in Cyprus can only be achieved if we know the true history of our country from both sides.If we want to build our country's future for us and for our children,we must think with our heart first and then with our nation.It's hard to forgive and forget.But what we can do is learn from our mistakes and work for peace so the next generations won't have to suffer from the consequences of hatred and fanaticism...


It's hard to forgive and forget but Christofias took a very hard step and apologised. Why didn't Talat reciprocate (do the same), halil?


how do u know that he didn't ? may be he did .


Well, if bayrak doesn't know, who does? Please confirm. Yes or No?


halil wrote:whenever we meet with TC and GC's we regret to each other about past mistakes. As i said important is forgive and not to spread hate between our kids.First every individual must start from his own front door for cleaning at the end whole street will clean and no one was tired.


And your leader should take the lead and apologise like Christofias has. Yes or No?
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