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Did they fight with the English?

Who, the Jocks? You're not serious are you?

Mala i fly that flag until you allow me fly my own.

Fly this one instead for a while...


Then you can add a gold island and green olive branches and we'll live happily ever after.

/hug

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Did they fight with the English? Mala i fly that flag until you allow me fly my own.

Yes, of course we've fought the English. Watch Braveheart! But we've also fought with the English against tyrrany e.g. in World War 2. Everything is possible - maybe the GCs will be your allies one day!

We can only hope so but like you Scots we would like to administer our own state is that to much to ask?

[fwnh]

Did they fight with the English? Mala i fly that flag until you allow me fly my own.

Yes, of course we've fought the English. Watch Braveheart! But we've also fought with the English against tyrrany e.g. in World War 2. Everything is possible - maybe the GCs will be your allies one day!

We can only hope so but like you Scots we would like to administer our own state is that to much to ask?

i'm afraid you got things wrong... you see the Scots were the ones living there in the first place and the english invated them.... do you see the resemblance now?

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I am a Scot living in England. Do I expect special privileges for my minority status? NO!

The party I vote for NEVER wins the general election. Do I expect a system which gives this minority party disproportionate power and privilege? NO!

I support a football team that NEVER wins a single trophy. Do I expect the other teams to step aside so 'my' team can have its moment of glory? NO!

Anyone out there that truly believes they should receive special privileges for their minority status?

You have your osn state currency sports teams parliament we want the same.

The difference is that it is not on someone elses land.

refugees will have their rights restored in both states

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Did they fight with the English? Mala i fly that flag until you allow me fly my own.

Yes, of course we've fought the English. Watch Braveheart! But we've also fought with the English against tyrrany e.g. in World War 2. Everything is possible - maybe the GCs will be your allies one day!

We can only hope so but like you Scots we would like to administer our own state is that to much to ask?

i'm afraid you got things wrong... you see the Scots were the ones living there in the first place and the english invated them.... do you see the resemblance now?

We have been living here as well.

[erolz3]

I am a Scot living in England. Do I expect special privileges for my minority status? NO!

As a scot you get to vote exclusively for your own assmebly AND you get an equal say as an indivdual in voting for the British parliament, lead currently by a scot a believe ?

An english person gets only to vote in the British parliament. They have no voice or say in the scottish one, no seperate english one and an equal say to you as an indivudal in the British one.

Some might see this as 'special priveldge' over an english british citizen.

Imagine if the english wanted to impose something that only they supported and they only supported it it because they were english rather than scottish and the scotts universaly opposed it and opposed it because they were scottish and not english.

Do you think such a thing could be fairly considered the valid will of a UNITARY British people. Should the english alone have the right to impose anything on the scots in the name of a unitary BRITISH people? Even if they act not for a unitary desire spread amongst all british people but act in a way that only english british people want yet these english people demand it be applied to the scots with 0 support from scots as well in the name of a UNITARY BRITISH people ?

[Me Ed]

I am a Scot living in England. Do I expect special privileges for my minority status? NO!

The party I vote for NEVER wins the general election. Do I expect a system which gives this minority party disproportionate power and privilege? NO!

I support a football team that NEVER wins a single trophy. Do I expect the other teams to step aside so 'my' team can have its moment of glory? NO!

Anyone out there that truly believes they should receive special privileges for their minority status?

You have your osn state currency sports teams parliament we want the same.

The difference is that it is not on someone elses land.

refugees will have their rights restored in both states

Does that include the right to vote?

[Oracle]

Did they fight with the English?

Who, the Jocks? You're not serious are you?

Mmm ... An Aussie fighting for Scotland against the English.

[Talisker]

I am a Scot living in England. Do I expect special privileges for my minority status? NO!

As a scot you get to vote exclusively for your own assmebly AND you get an equal say as an indivdual in voting for the British parliament, lead currently by a scot a believe ?

An english person gets only to vote in the British parliament. They have no voice or say in the scottish one, no seperate english one and an equal say to you as an indivudal in the British one.

Some might see this as 'special priveldge' over an english british citizen.

Imagine if the english wanted to impose something that only they supported and they only supported it it because they were english rather than scottish and the scotts universaly opposed it and opposed it because they were scottish and not english.

Do you think such a thing could be fairly considered the valid will of a UNITARY British people. Should the english alone have the right to impose anything on the scots in the name of a unitary BRITISH people? Even if they act not for a unitary desire spread amongst all british people but act in a way that only english british people want yet these english people demand it be applied to the scots with 0 support from scots as well in the name of a UNITARY BRITISH people ?

If I was English I would expect there to be an English parliament - the devolved parliamentary situation in the UK is not sorted out completely yet - my post was not to laud the UK parliamentary system but to consider what I expect as a minority citizen. Nevertheless, to take up your point, the Scots were not given their own parliament due to them being an ethnic minority within the UK, but because of historical considerations, the fact that for centuries Scotland was an independent nation, and the will of the people being for their own parliament. Scots did not seize the land from others, this was their land, they had no support from a 'motherland' in seizing land by force. As a Scot living in England I do not get a vote in Scottish parliamentary elections, so, as I indicated in my initial post, I do not receive privileges as a minority Scot living in England.

[Malapapa]

I am a Scot living in England. Do I expect special privileges for my minority status? NO!

As a scot you get to vote exclusively for your own assmebly AND you get an equal say as an indivdual in voting for the British parliament, lead currently by a scot a believe ?

An english person gets only to vote in the British parliament. They have no voice or say in the scottish one, no seperate english one and an equal say to you as an indivudal in the British one.

Some might see this as 'special priveldge' over an english british citizen.

Imagine if the english wanted to impose something that only they supported and they only supported it it because they were english rather than scottish and the scotts universaly opposed it and opposed it because they were scottish and not english.

Do you think such a thing could be fairly considered the valid will of a UNITARY British people. Should the english alone have the right to impose anything on the scots in the name of a unitary BRITISH people? Even if they act not for a unitary desire spread amongst all british people but act in a way that only english british people want yet these english people demand it be applied to the scots with 0 support from scots as well in the name of a UNITARY BRITISH people ?

Oh, Gawd... the Cypriot West Lothian question.

Scots historically come from a place called Scot-land.

TCs historically come from a place called Cyprus (not a place recently carved out of Cyprus by force called "TC-land")

TCs-to-Cypriots is not akin to Scots-to-Brits.

A far better analogy is African Americans-to-Americans.

In the 1960s there was segregation and discrimination against African Americans. Today Obama is president.