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Re: What brings you here?

Postby YFred » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:30 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
aussieturk wrote:
Oracle wrote:
umit07 wrote: ... Being away from Cyprus has softened me to an extent that I personally just don't care about the damn place anymore. I reckon the best solution is to nuke the island then reopen it to settlement some 50 years down the track. ...


I'm here to argue against leaving my country in the hands of people like you!


For once I agree with you Oracle, not a nice thing to say by umit07


:shock: :shock: :shock:

Yes quite. Reh Umit! Have you been drinking?

It's an ausi thing. I remember Bafidobullo wishin for the same thing. Howver I would't mind if a very special nuke bomb was designed that would vapourise just e few members without any damage to the rest? :lol: :lol: :lol:
No need to mention any names, I think they know who they are.
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Postby cymart » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:08 pm

This is exactly what I have been trying to tell people here for a long time!What I cannot understand though is why so many t.v and radio stations,as well as most G.C. newspapers except Politis and sometimes Alithia,are so against a federal solution?
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Postby umit07 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:12 pm

boomerang wrote:umit...it sounds you want another get together... :lol:


What's up boomers? It's just the usual moaning, I should stop, I'm beginning to sound like my old man :shock:
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Postby umit07 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:30 pm

EricSeans wrote:
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paliometoxo wrote:its a shame that you dont care, its your roots here and you have been made to not care. maybe your more australien then cypriot now. but i guess its whatever makes you happy, my cousins in england feel the same way as you and they hate cyprus they barely speak a word of their own mother language and its a shame


It's not a straight cut situation Palio, I lived in Cyprus for nearly 10 years. Looking at the island from Oz make one look at things from a different perspective. In Australia at least I can see some sort of future worth striving for, but in Cyprus I can't see myself going anywhere. The opportunities Australia gives me are far better than those in Cyprus. If I ever live in Cyprus again I'll choose to live a segregated life away from all this shit. I'd never listen to the news or read the papers.


A professional and worthy media would inform and educate the people far better. Instead rumour and falsehood is often reported as fact, while sourcing and corroboration don't even come into it. Also the backward-looking blame game and associated baggage which is jumped on by the chauvanists and extremists is standard fare. That said, there are some excellent and courageous reporters out there who refuse to surrender to either camp.



the funny thing is that Cypriots in general still fall for it. I don't know about the GC's but most of the TC media is very manipulative.
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:48 pm

EricSeans wrote:
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paliometoxo wrote:its a shame that you dont care, its your roots here and you have been made to not care. maybe your more australien then cypriot now. but i guess its whatever makes you happy, my cousins in england feel the same way as you and they hate cyprus they barely speak a word of their own mother language and its a shame


It's not a straight cut situation Palio, I lived in Cyprus for nearly 10 years. Looking at the island from Oz make one look at things from a different perspective. In Australia at least I can see some sort of future worth striving for, but in Cyprus I can't see myself going anywhere. The opportunities Australia gives me are far better than those in Cyprus. If I ever live in Cyprus again I'll choose to live a segregated life away from all this shit. I'd never listen to the news or read the papers.


A professional and worthy media would inform and educate the people far better. Instead rumour and falsehood is often reported as fact, while sourcing and corroboration don't even come into it. Also the backward-looking blame game and associated baggage which is jumped on by the chauvanists and extremists is standard fare. That said, there are some excellent and courageous reporters out there who refuse to surrender to either camp.

The same could be said for most of the RoC/TRNC forums. :D
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Re: I agree and disagree...

Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:02 pm

cymart wrote:Foreign Cypriots sometimes care more about the Cyprus problem than most people here do,so I would differ with Umit on that but I also,unfortunately, have to agree that Cyprus society is f*****,even though I try to avoid the use of this word!As Yiangos Mikkelides wrote in Politis,the number one interest of most Cypriots is how to get money,power and influence by any means possible, and then if they get it,how to stop somebody else from taking it away from them!They are hedonists par excellence with very little consciousness about anything else but when this is the example set by most of the establishment,can you really blame the rest of the people??As Yiangos wrote, hardly anybody even knows,let alone cares whether Christophias and Talat meet each other and the whole thing is just a farce which would be funny if it were not so tragic!!I fully agree and wrote this posting with great regret,not gloating...


What you are describing ,cymart,is a country in deep trauma and shock,after the events of the past 60 years or so...Lets not forget that about 250,000 Cypriots have become refugees in their own country...Thousands of people are still missing,some presumed dead,some presumed alive,all without closure...People have lived with fear and insecurity and uncertainty for too long in Cyprus...The drive to accumulate material posessions is a result of this...So is the relatively excessive use of tobacco and alcohol products in the population...In the trnc the number of cancer victims are 5 times the world average...The psychological effects of the bloody civil war has never been studied or even ackowledged...There had been no grieving or healing process to speak about...What Umit is really saying is this: " The psychological wounds of this conflict is so great I just want everything to disappear,don't care how"...But he has to keep coming back,to seek solace in th company of those who are suffering from the same trauma and stress...I think we are all doing this to different extend... :( :(
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I fully agree...

Postby cymart » Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:05 pm

I felt exactly this ever since I returned here in 1979 and the situation is getting rapidly worse,as you quite rightly said,despite peoples attempt to hide reality by chasing material wealth.As Ban Ki moon said the other week,everybody has heard all about the Cyprus problem for far too long and now its time to solve it!This is no other remedy and even Christophias openly admitted recently that without a solution Cyprus has no future.....
I also read before about high cancer rates in the north-do you think its environmentally and behaviourally caused or due to stress?
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Re: I fully agree...

Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:01 pm

cymart wrote:I also read before about high cancer rates in the north-do you think its environmentally and behaviourally caused or due to stress?

With next to zero industry regulations what do you expect?
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Re: I fully agree...

Postby YFred » Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:12 pm

Get Real! wrote:
cymart wrote:I also read before about high cancer rates in the north-do you think its environmentally and behaviourally caused or due to stress?

With next to zero industry regulations what do you expect?

You missed the new Akritas plan, to kill off all the TCs through stress. What ever next?
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Re: I fully agree...

Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:15 pm

YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
cymart wrote:I also read before about high cancer rates in the north-do you think its environmentally and behaviourally caused or due to stress?

With next to zero industry regulations what do you expect?

You missed the new Akritas plan, to kill off all the TCs through stress. What ever next?

You kind of warmed up to the "stress" idea did you? I think you’ve got a strong case of a 5th genocide!
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