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[BirKibrisli]

Thank you,my psychoanalysis is spot on...You have either imbibed the trauma from your parents,or you are a raving,murderous psychopath...The choice is yours...

What the hell is embedded trauma? I'm just pissed that I don't have a frekin homeland to go to, that's how I feel. I remember as a kid I was brought up with constant notions that the TRNC is where my roots are and that the RoC doesn't represent us. After coming back some people also treat me like a foreigner even though I was born here. It just feels weird, I don't know what to call it.

Imbibed (I hope I am spelling it right!) is what you get from your parents without conscious effort...This is how I see it Umit...Your roots are in Cyprus...Not in the political entities engaged in bloody feud,but in the country itself...Australia is your country of birth,but not where you feel you belong...Others pick up on that and treat you like a foreigner...I am luckier. I came to Australia 41 years ago,I was a foreigner then and I am a foreigner now...No internal conflict there...

I was born in Australia and have never felt like a foreigner. I have led a very rich live so far, with many experiences and given opportunities I will never have got anywhere else.

I am an Australian with Cypriot Inheritance.

No conflict here either! How can there be if you live in the best country in the world!

I think BIR doesn't like Australia's one man one vote Federal democracy! Such fairness is an anathema to Bir, as he does not want to see such justice and democracy in Cyprus, but instead wants and desires the methodical Turkification of Cyprus and the destruction of cypriotism!

There can be no other explanation, judging from his posts.

I don't like Australia's worshipping of materialism,their mindless devotion to sport and booze,and their hypocritical assertion that they are the least racist nation on earth...And I have their "it will be all right,mate" attitude which breeds mediocricy ,and their anti-intellectualist tall poppy syndrome...But I can see why you guys would feel right at home here...

someone is stuck in a time warp...reminds me of the '70s comedy show on telly...i bet bir has the whole collection at his fingertips...

don't like it bir?...who is holding you back?...

What...what is holding me back...is the refusal of the RoC to agree to a solution which will bring a good degree of self-rule for the TCs in the Federated TC state...That is what...

[Viewpoint]

Your "offical" redline declaration timing is whats important, your leaders was still negotiating now you have weakened his position as he cannot negotiate what his parliament will not support, therefore walking away from the negoations as he knows without a freehand to megotiate this important issue he is fucked.

[boomerang]

Thank you,my psychoanalysis is spot on...You have either imbibed the trauma from your parents,or you are a raving,murderous psychopath...The choice is yours...

What the hell is embedded trauma? I'm just pissed that I don't have a frekin homeland to go to, that's how I feel. I remember as a kid I was brought up with constant notions that the TRNC is where my roots are and that the RoC doesn't represent us. After coming back some people also treat me like a foreigner even though I was born here. It just feels weird, I don't know what to call it.

Imbibed (I hope I am spelling it right!) is what you get from your parents without conscious effort...This is how I see it Umit...Your roots are in Cyprus...Not in the political entities engaged in bloody feud,but in the country itself...Australia is your country of birth,but not where you feel you belong...Others pick up on that and treat you like a foreigner...I am luckier. I came to Australia 41 years ago,I was a foreigner then and I am a foreigner now...No internal conflict there...

I was born in Australia and have never felt like a foreigner. I have led a very rich live so far, with many experiences and given opportunities I will never have got anywhere else.

I am an Australian with Cypriot Inheritance.

No conflict here either! How can there be if you live in the best country in the world!

I think BIR doesn't like Australia's one man one vote Federal democracy! Such fairness is an anathema to Bir, as he does not want to see such justice and democracy in Cyprus, but instead wants and desires the methodical Turkification of Cyprus and the destruction of cypriotism!

There can be no other explanation, judging from his posts.

I don't like Australia's worshipping of materialism,their mindless devotion to sport and booze,and their hypocritical assertion that they are the least racist nation on earth...And I have their "it will be all right,mate" attitude which breeds mediocricy ,and their anti-intellectualist tall poppy syndrome...But I can see why you guys would feel right at home here...

someone is stuck in a time warp...reminds me of the '70s comedy show on telly...i bet bir has the whole collection at his fingertips...

don't like it bir?...who is holding you back?...

What...what is holding me back...is the refusal of the RoC to agree to a solution which will bring a good degree of self-rule for the TCs in the Federated TC state...That is what...

roc is still there bir...you can live in the roc or any other eu country of your chosing...again who is holding you back?...

i thought you were after a federation...like in OZ...now you are talking about a good degree of self rule for the tcs...hmmm, something tells me you weren't upfront with anything you have been saying....

at one stage you were advocating a unitary staty, something tells me you were telling fibes...

[boomerang]

bir what you obviously failed to understand is turkey ain't going nowhere....what ever solution comes about turkey will control the north state...

turkey didn't spend billions coz she loves you...and to combat what you are saying she resettled the north with her own people outnumbering you guys...so her influence will always be there...

so for you you let me off the hook i will equate this to shortsightness on your behalf for not seeing the obvious...

if turkey wanted a solution today she would have volunteered to withdraw from the island taking her citizens with her, but instead she dictates what she wants via talat's mouth....blatandly obvious to say the least...

so in short bir the with the annan plan or any other plan turkey is looking to cement and expand her gains...

there are no ifs or buts about it....wishfull thinking on your behalf...

I am starting to doubt your intelligence,boomers...Either that or you are on the booze all the time... You are not telling me anything new...Turkey likes the status quo,doesn't want a solution,till she is ready to annex the North...There is one way you will stop Turkey...Agree to a deal which will make her withdraw most of her troops,and remove the noose on the TCs so they can breath without Turkey's artificial lungs...If you have a better idea I am all ears...

and i am quickly forming the opinion of prolong usage of prozac is playing havoc with your mind...

since the gates opened the gdp of the occupied has tripled something tirkey never achieved, but achieved very quickly with the roc...the tcs should take note of this instead of proposing ludicrous demands via a puppet...

the tcs have no voice and never will have a voice...turkey has seen to this long ago, hence why you are outnumbered...try passing something turkey doesn't want and see what happens...

a plan that leaves the door open for turkey is not a plan but a catastrophe for the whole island...

on the other hand if turkey was a modern democracy, prescribes to human rights and where the rule of law rules the roost, maybe a guarantee would be acceptble...but you and i know this a long way away...

funny thing is turkey let go of cyprus, she would have captured it, due to the close proximity, japan style, with trade...go fugure huh?...

bir?

[BirKibrisli]

I have become a realist in my old age,boomers...The only solution the TCs and Turkey will agree to is a BBF...That should be obvious to even Blind Freddie...Only you and a few others on this forum are failing to see it...No BBF,status quo remain...Till...you know the rest...

[boomerang]

I have become a realist in my old age,boomers...The only solution the TCs and Turkey will agree to is a BBF...That should be obvious to even Blind Freddie...Only you and a few others on this forum are failing to see it...No BBF,status quo remain...Till...you know the rest...

hey i always supported federation...best thing since slice bread...you don't support federation, you support a confedaration, with your autonomy and turkish demands rhetoric...

but as i see you took the cowards way and responded with rhetoric rather than address the points i made...

reh bir, living in oz all these years seeing a the birth of a true nation taught you nothing...

[BirKibrisli]

bir what you obviously failed to understand is turkey ain't going nowhere....what ever solution comes about turkey will control the north state...

turkey didn't spend billions coz she loves you...and to combat what you are saying she resettled the north with her own people outnumbering you guys...so her influence will always be there...

so for you you let me off the hook i will equate this to shortsightness on your behalf for not seeing the obvious...

if turkey wanted a solution today she would have volunteered to withdraw from the island taking her citizens with her, but instead she dictates what she wants via talat's mouth....blatandly obvious to say the least...

so in short bir the with the annan plan or any other plan turkey is looking to cement and expand her gains...

there are no ifs or buts about it....wishfull thinking on your behalf...

I am starting to doubt your intelligence,boomers...Either that or you are on the booze all the time... You are not telling me anything new...Turkey likes the status quo,doesn't want a solution,till she is ready to annex the North...There is one way you will stop Turkey...Agree to a deal which will make her withdraw most of her troops,and remove the noose on the TCs so they can breath without Turkey's artificial lungs...If you have a better idea I am all ears...

and i am quickly forming the opinion of prolong usage of prozac is playing havoc with your mind...

since the gates opened the gdp of the occupied has tripled something tirkey never achieved, but achieved very quickly with the roc...the tcs should take note of this instead of proposing ludicrous demands via a puppet...

the tcs have no voice and never will have a voice...turkey has seen to this long ago, hence why you are outnumbered...try passing something turkey doesn't want and see what happens...

a plan that leaves the door open for turkey is not a plan but a catastrophe for the whole island...

on the other hand if turkey was a modern democracy, prescribes to human rights and where the rule of law rules the roost, maybe a guarantee would be acceptble...but you and i know this a long way away...

funny thing is turkey let go of cyprus, she would have captured it, due to the close proximity, japan style, with trade...go fugure huh?...

bir?

what do you want me to say,boomers...???we are going around the circle like those blinkered mules around the well...Turkey will not be a European style democracy in a hurry...And you have a long wait,if ,like GR you are planning to starve Turkey out of Cyprus...good luck anyway...I guess I am condemned to die in Oz...Well,there are worse places i suppose...

[BirKibrisli]

I have become a realist in my old age,boomers...The only solution the TCs and Turkey will agree to is a BBF...That should be obvious to even Blind Freddie...Only you and a few others on this forum are failing to see it...No BBF,status quo remain...Till...you know the rest...

hey i always supported federation...best thing since slice bread...you don't support federation, you support a confedaration, with your autonomy and turkish demands rhetoric...

but as i see you took the cowards way and responded with rhetoric rather than address the points i made...

reh bir, living in oz all these years seeing a the birth of a true nation taught you nothing...

Oh,I learnt plenty all right...You can fool yourself into thinking Australia is a true democracy...I was in an ideal position to know better...But I won't waste my breath on you...Stay in your fool's paradise,mate...You will be happier there by far...

[boomerang]

bir what you obviously failed to understand is turkey ain't going nowhere....what ever solution comes about turkey will control the north state...

turkey didn't spend billions coz she loves you...and to combat what you are saying she resettled the north with her own people outnumbering you guys...so her influence will always be there...

so for you you let me off the hook i will equate this to shortsightness on your behalf for not seeing the obvious...

if turkey wanted a solution today she would have volunteered to withdraw from the island taking her citizens with her, but instead she dictates what she wants via talat's mouth....blatandly obvious to say the least...

so in short bir the with the annan plan or any other plan turkey is looking to cement and expand her gains...

there are no ifs or buts about it....wishfull thinking on your behalf...

I am starting to doubt your intelligence,boomers...Either that or you are on the booze all the time... You are not telling me anything new...Turkey likes the status quo,doesn't want a solution,till she is ready to annex the North...There is one way you will stop Turkey...Agree to a deal which will make her withdraw most of her troops,and remove the noose on the TCs so they can breath without Turkey's artificial lungs...If you have a better idea I am all ears...

and i am quickly forming the opinion of prolong usage of prozac is playing havoc with your mind...

since the gates opened the gdp of the occupied has tripled something tirkey never achieved, but achieved very quickly with the roc...the tcs should take note of this instead of proposing ludicrous demands via a puppet...

the tcs have no voice and never will have a voice...turkey has seen to this long ago, hence why you are outnumbered...try passing something turkey doesn't want and see what happens...

a plan that leaves the door open for turkey is not a plan but a catastrophe for the whole island...

on the other hand if turkey was a modern democracy, prescribes to human rights and where the rule of law rules the roost, maybe a guarantee would be acceptble...but you and i know this a long way away...

funny thing is turkey let go of cyprus, she would have captured it, due to the close proximity, japan style, with trade...go fugure huh?...

bir?

what do you want me to say,boomers...???we are going around the circle like those blinkered mules around the well...Turkey will not be a European style democracy in a hurry...And you have a long wait,if ,like GR you are planning to starve Turkey out of Cyprus...good luck anyway...I guess I am condemned to die in Oz...Well,there are worse places i suppose...

what i expected out of you bir, is support for democracy, human rights and rule of law, and i do realise these are a strange phenomena in turkey, but from you is another story, having lived most of your life in oz...witnessing the past and the present...where in the '60 and '70 one couldn't speak their own own language out loud, eat continenatl food, or even enjoying a glass of wine...

the difference in attitudes from the then to today are miles apart...you were part of thios revolution, but it seems it has escaped you...pity

[boomerang]

I have become a realist in my old age,boomers...The only solution the TCs and Turkey will agree to is a BBF...That should be obvious to even Blind Freddie...Only you and a few others on this forum are failing to see it...No BBF,status quo remain...Till...you know the rest...

hey i always supported federation...best thing since slice bread...you don't support federation, you support a confedaration, with your autonomy and turkish demands rhetoric...

but as i see you took the cowards way and responded with rhetoric rather than address the points i made...

reh bir, living in oz all these years seeing a the birth of a true nation taught you nothing...

Oh,I learnt plenty all right...You can fool yourself into thinking Australia is a true democracy...I was in an ideal position to know better...But I won't waste my breath on you...Stay in your fool's paradise,mate...You will be happier there by far...

and what position was that....i work for myself and have been the last 22 years...travelled half the world and seen plenty...still i call australia home...wouldn't have it any other way when comparing to the what i've seen..

the only fool here is you bir for staying in OZ and not happy when as cypriot you could move to any of the 27 EU countries...if you think they are better than here...but something tells me you still prefer it here...


anyway goodnight bir...it's 28 degrees at 1:00AM and i am hot and bothered..