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[georgios100]

The cypriots will never accept that, they didn't in the past so why would they in the future? and ofcourse the cypriot's mentality and way of thinking is light years away from the german's

The Cypriots think they know everything, they always did. In reality, much is to be learn by recent events from the so called "Foreigners".

Just copied and pasted a few sentences from WIKI:

The East German regime started to falter in the summer of 1989, when Hungary opened a hole in the Iron Curtain. It caused an exodus of thousands of East Germans going to West Germany via Hungary. The Peaceful Revolution was a series of protests by East Germans. The Peaceful Revolution led to the GDR's first free elections on 18 March 1990
On 18 May 1990, the two German states signed a treaty agreeing on monetary, economic and social union. A reunification treaty between West Germany and the GDR was negotiated in mid-1990 and finally approved by large majorities in the legislative chambers of both countries on 20 September 1990.[5] After that last step Germany was officially united at 00:00 CET on 3 October 1990.

The Germans were pretty quick on this one. It just took them about a year to take care of business. Swift and bold action at work.

The Cypriots, after 36 years, are about to take a giant step backwards, thanks to our "brilliant politicians".

Georgios100

You're being hard on the politicians. Germany was reunified only after the Soviet Union started to crumble, following glasnost and perestroika. The same, I'm afraid, needs to happen to Turkey.

What's Turkish for 'glasnost' and 'perestroika'? Achieve that and Cypriot reunification will follow.

Hi there Malapapa,
You know, you are one of the better posters on CF, congrats.
All your answers/comments are right on the money.

Why I am being too hard on the politicians? Are you suggesting we give them more time? Another...what... let's say 30 years?

These guys are the scum of the earth! Take for example the Clerides-Ntenktas talks, lasted for ever. Both of them would meet and smoke pipes all day long. These "talks" when on and on and on... for years on end, while displaced citizens from both sides waited to go home!
Later, others tried to talk... nothing.

The 2004 horror show takes place. The people are asked to vote for the Annan plan. Both Tassos & Ntenktas were against it. Tassos, a former EOKA member and Ntenktas, a TMT founder. Failure again.

Now we have "intensive negotiations". What is your take on this? You already know my predictions.

Georgios

Georgios, just read my signature, it says it all.

Our politicians are tied, what else can they do in the face of blackmail and threats.

Now do you agree with the signature or not?

If yes, you have your answer.

If no, then we have to just agree to turkify all of Cyprus to please the few defeatists, which are you file??

Very nice signature, thanks.

B25, Do you want a solution?

If you do, read the whole thread to realize that the politicians are part of the problem too.

My proposal, to by-pass the politicians, has nothing to do with a solution as per Turkey's wishes. I simply point the fact that we are stationary with no end in sight.

If you think our politicians are tied, why don't we look for an alternative. Sticking with the politicians don't work anymore.

Everybody has it's own version of a possible solution. In the end, there is going to be one. Not all will be satisfied but many will be. It's the many that count, not your version or mine.

Georgios

[georgios100]

The cypriots will never accept that, they didn't in the past so why would they in the future? and ofcourse the cypriot's mentality and way of thinking is light years away from the german's

The Cypriots think they know everything, they always did. In reality, much is to be learn by recent events from the so called "Foreigners".

Just copied and pasted a few sentences from WIKI:

The East German regime started to falter in the summer of 1989, when Hungary opened a hole in the Iron Curtain. It caused an exodus of thousands of East Germans going to West Germany via Hungary. The Peaceful Revolution was a series of protests by East Germans. The Peaceful Revolution led to the GDR's first free elections on 18 March 1990
On 18 May 1990, the two German states signed a treaty agreeing on monetary, economic and social union. A reunification treaty between West Germany and the GDR was negotiated in mid-1990 and finally approved by large majorities in the legislative chambers of both countries on 20 September 1990.[5] After that last step Germany was officially united at 00:00 CET on 3 October 1990.

The Germans were pretty quick on this one. It just took them about a year to take care of business. Swift and bold action at work.

The Cypriots, after 36 years, are about to take a giant step backwards, thanks to our "brilliant politicians".

Georgios100

You're being hard on the politicians. Germany was reunified only after the Soviet Union started to crumble, following glasnost and perestroika. The same, I'm afraid, needs to happen to Turkey.

What's Turkish for 'glasnost' and 'perestroika'? Achieve that and Cypriot reunification will follow.

Hi there Malapapa,
You know, you are one of the better posters on CF, congrats.
All your answers/comments are right on the money.

Thanks. You're making me .

Why I am being too hard on the politicians? Are you suggesting we give them more time? Another...what... let's say 30 years?

Forget politicians. They come and then they go. International law remains.

These guys are the scum of the earth! Take for example the Clerides-Ntenktas talks, lasted for ever. Both of them would meet and smoke pipes all day long. These "talks" when on and on and on... for years on end, while displaced citizens from both sides waited to go home!
Later, others tried to talk... nothing.

The 2004 horror show takes place. The people are asked to vote for the Annan plan. Both Tassos & Ntenktas were against it. Tassos, a former EOKA member and Ntenktas, a TMT founder. Failure again.

Denktash talked about how the problem was solved in 1974. Whoever was president had to listen and try to get re-elected. Meanwile the country recovered, rebuilt, raised its game and self-esteem and finally secured EU membership for the whole island in 2004. The Annan plan was a joke consigned to the dustbin of history.

Little Cyprus's quest to remove the big, bad invader is a long, strategic war of attrition. The liberation forces have layed siege and are slowly cutting off all the supply lines.

Now we have "intensive negotiations". What is your take on this? You already know my predictions.

Georgios

You know mine too (see above reference to 'glasnost' and 'perestroika').

Make no mistake; David will have to take down Goliath if his people are to be free.

I am speechless! You said it all, thank you.

The point is, what to do in the near future. And how to do it. Would you think president Christofias is surrounded with capable advisers who know how to proceed? Maybe he needs help? Expert help.

The Turkish side is well prepared. Talat has an army of advisers straight from Ankara to assist him. Never assume these are bi-communal talks.

We need an edge. Christofias is not it.

Georgios

[Malapapa]

I am speechless! You said it all, thank you.

The point is, what to do in the near future. And how to do it. Would you think president Christofias is surrounded with capable advisers who know how to proceed? Maybe he needs help? Expert help.

Someone who speaks fluent English, without a haccent would help enormously.

The Turkish side is well prepared. Talat has an army of advisers straight from Ankara to assist him. Never assume these are bi-communal talks.

All useless. Neither Talat nor Turkey has a strategy.

We need an edge. Christofias is not it.

Georgios

All the real talent is abroad I'm afraid.