The Best Cyprus Community

Skip to content


Year 2010: Hopes for a solution quickly slipping away...

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby georgios100 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:06 pm

fwnh wrote:The cypriots will never accept that, they didn't in the past so why would they in the future? and ofcourse the cypriot's mentality and way of thinking is light years away from the german's


The Cypriots think they know everything, they always did. In reality, much is to be learn by recent events from the so called "Foreigners".

Just copied and pasted a few sentences from WIKI:

The East German regime started to falter in the summer of 1989, when Hungary opened a hole in the Iron Curtain. It caused an exodus of thousands of East Germans going to West Germany via Hungary. The Peaceful Revolution was a series of protests by East Germans. The Peaceful Revolution led to the GDR's first free elections on 18 March 1990
On 18 May 1990, the two German states signed a treaty agreeing on monetary, economic and social union. A reunification treaty between West Germany and the GDR was negotiated in mid-1990 and finally approved by large majorities in the legislative chambers of both countries on 20 September 1990.[5] After that last step Germany was officially united at 00:00 CET on 3 October 1990.


The Germans were pretty quick on this one. It just took them about a year to take care of business. Swift and bold action at work.

The Cypriots, after 36 years, are about to take a giant step backwards, thanks to our "brilliant politicians".

Georgios100
User avatar
georgios100
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 937
Joined: Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:21 pm
Location: Usa

Postby DT. » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:23 pm

Acikgoz wrote:So DT and fwnh with your desire to have outside parties to facilitate on solving the Cyprus problem, how vocal were you on the EU's involvement right now.
The EU has taken a wholly one sided approach by placing 100% of the onus on Turkey to promote the solving of the Cyprus problem without once mentioning the responsibilities and penalties for RoC.

If there was consistency in your outlooks then the hypocrisy of your statements would sound more genuine.


WHat would you have the EU do? Demand Cyprus withdraw its occupying forces from Southern Turkey and return Antalya to its rightful Turkish owners?
User avatar
DT.
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12684
Joined: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:34 pm
Location: Lefkosia

Postby Malapapa » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:00 pm

georgios100 wrote:
fwnh wrote:The cypriots will never accept that, they didn't in the past so why would they in the future? and ofcourse the cypriot's mentality and way of thinking is light years away from the german's


The Cypriots think they know everything, they always did. In reality, much is to be learn by recent events from the so called "Foreigners".

Just copied and pasted a few sentences from WIKI:

The East German regime started to falter in the summer of 1989, when Hungary opened a hole in the Iron Curtain. It caused an exodus of thousands of East Germans going to West Germany via Hungary. The Peaceful Revolution was a series of protests by East Germans. The Peaceful Revolution led to the GDR's first free elections on 18 March 1990
On 18 May 1990, the two German states signed a treaty agreeing on monetary, economic and social union. A reunification treaty between West Germany and the GDR was negotiated in mid-1990 and finally approved by large majorities in the legislative chambers of both countries on 20 September 1990.[5] After that last step Germany was officially united at 00:00 CET on 3 October 1990.


The Germans were pretty quick on this one. It just took them about a year to take care of business. Swift and bold action at work.

The Cypriots, after 36 years, are about to take a giant step backwards, thanks to our "brilliant politicians".

Georgios100


You're being hard on the politicians. Germany was reunified only after the Soviet Union started to crumble, following glasnost and perestroika. The same, I'm afraid, needs to happen to Turkey.

What's Turkish for 'glasnost' and 'perestroika'? Achieve that and Cypriot reunification will follow.
Last edited by Malapapa on Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Malapapa
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 3416
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:13 pm

Postby Malapapa » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:04 pm

Acikgoz wrote:So DT and fwnh with your desire to have outside parties to facilitate on solving the Cyprus problem, how vocal were you on the EU's involvement right now.
The EU has taken a wholly one sided approach by placing 100% of the onus on Turkey to promote the solving of the Cyprus problem without once mentioning the responsibilities and penalties for RoC.

If there was consistency in your outlooks then the hypocrisy of your statements would sound more genuine.


That's because the onus is 100% on Turkey. The responsibilities will fall on the RoC after reunification.
User avatar
Malapapa
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 3416
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:13 pm

Postby fwnh » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:32 pm

georgios100 wrote:
fwnh wrote:The cypriots will never accept that, they didn't in the past so why would they in the future? and ofcourse the cypriot's mentality and way of thinking is light years away from the german's


The Cypriots think they know everything, they always did. In reality, much is to be learn by recent events from the so called "Foreigners".

Just copied and pasted a few sentences from WIKI:

The East German regime started to falter in the summer of 1989, when Hungary opened a hole in the Iron Curtain. It caused an exodus of thousands of East Germans going to West Germany via Hungary. The Peaceful Revolution was a series of protests by East Germans. The Peaceful Revolution led to the GDR's first free elections on 18 March 1990
On 18 May 1990, the two German states signed a treaty agreeing on monetary, economic and social union. A reunification treaty between West Germany and the GDR was negotiated in mid-1990 and finally approved by large majorities in the legislative chambers of both countries on 20 September 1990.[5] After that last step Germany was officially united at 00:00 CET on 3 October 1990.


The Germans were pretty quick on this one. It just took them about a year to take care of business. Swift and bold action at work.

The Cypriots, after 36 years, are about to take a giant step backwards, thanks to our "brilliant politicians".

Georgios100


you cannot compare the cyprus problem to that of germany because both sides regarded the other sides as brothers, this is not the case in cyprus and i don't blame people.... just have a look at our history books... 50pages book on the history of cyprus 500 pages on the history of byzantium
fwnh
Member
Member
 
Posts: 175
Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:24 pm

Postby fwnh » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:35 pm

and by history of cyprus = hirokitia and the bronze age... why is that you think?
fwnh
Member
Member
 
Posts: 175
Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:24 pm

Postby georgios100 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:15 am

fwnh wrote:
georgios100 wrote:
fwnh wrote:The cypriots will never accept that, they didn't in the past so why would they in the future? and ofcourse the cypriot's mentality and way of thinking is light years away from the german's


The Cypriots think they know everything, they always did. In reality, much is to be learn by recent events from the so called "Foreigners".

Just copied and pasted a few sentences from WIKI:

The East German regime started to falter in the summer of 1989, when Hungary opened a hole in the Iron Curtain. It caused an exodus of thousands of East Germans going to West Germany via Hungary. The Peaceful Revolution was a series of protests by East Germans. The Peaceful Revolution led to the GDR's first free elections on 18 March 1990
On 18 May 1990, the two German states signed a treaty agreeing on monetary, economic and social union. A reunification treaty between West Germany and the GDR was negotiated in mid-1990 and finally approved by large majorities in the legislative chambers of both countries on 20 September 1990.[5] After that last step Germany was officially united at 00:00 CET on 3 October 1990.


The Germans were pretty quick on this one. It just took them about a year to take care of business. Swift and bold action at work.

The Cypriots, after 36 years, are about to take a giant step backwards, thanks to our "brilliant politicians".

Georgios100


you cannot compare the cyprus problem to that of germany because both sides regarded the other sides as brothers, this is not the case in cyprus and i don't blame people.... just have a look at our history books... 50pages book on the history of cyprus 500 pages on the history of byzantium


I am not comparing the Germans with the Cypriots. What I do emphasize is the quickness displayed for solution & closure. BTW, there is a Turkish minority population in Germany estimated at approx 8 million! The Germans worked around that too... no problem.

For us, 36 years, I guess we are just warming up!!!

Georgios100
User avatar
georgios100
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 937
Joined: Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:21 pm
Location: Usa

Postby georgios100 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:43 am

Malapapa wrote:
georgios100 wrote:
fwnh wrote:The cypriots will never accept that, they didn't in the past so why would they in the future? and ofcourse the cypriot's mentality and way of thinking is light years away from the german's


The Cypriots think they know everything, they always did. In reality, much is to be learn by recent events from the so called "Foreigners".

Just copied and pasted a few sentences from WIKI:

The East German regime started to falter in the summer of 1989, when Hungary opened a hole in the Iron Curtain. It caused an exodus of thousands of East Germans going to West Germany via Hungary. The Peaceful Revolution was a series of protests by East Germans. The Peaceful Revolution led to the GDR's first free elections on 18 March 1990
On 18 May 1990, the two German states signed a treaty agreeing on monetary, economic and social union. A reunification treaty between West Germany and the GDR was negotiated in mid-1990 and finally approved by large majorities in the legislative chambers of both countries on 20 September 1990.[5] After that last step Germany was officially united at 00:00 CET on 3 October 1990.


The Germans were pretty quick on this one. It just took them about a year to take care of business. Swift and bold action at work.

The Cypriots, after 36 years, are about to take a giant step backwards, thanks to our "brilliant politicians".

Georgios100


You're being hard on the politicians. Germany was reunified only after the Soviet Union started to crumble, following glasnost and perestroika. The same, I'm afraid, needs to happen to Turkey.

What's Turkish for 'glasnost' and 'perestroika'? Achieve that and Cypriot reunification will follow.


Hi there Malapapa,
You know, you are one of the better posters on CF, congrats.
All your answers/comments are right on the money.

Why I am being too hard on the politicians? Are you suggesting we give them more time? Another...what... let's say 30 years?

These guys are the scum of the earth! Take for example the Clerides-Ntenktas talks, lasted for ever. Both of them would meet and smoke pipes all day long. These "talks" when on and on and on... for years on end, while displaced citizens from both sides waited to go home!
Later, others tried to talk... nothing.

The 2004 horror show takes place. The people are asked to vote for the Annan plan. Both Tassos & Ntenktas were against it. Tassos, a former EOKA member and Ntenktas, a TMT founder. Failure again.

Now we have "intensive negotiations". What is your take on this? You already know my predictions.

Georgios
User avatar
georgios100
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 937
Joined: Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:21 pm
Location: Usa

Postby B25 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:08 am

georgios100 wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
georgios100 wrote:
fwnh wrote:The cypriots will never accept that, they didn't in the past so why would they in the future? and ofcourse the cypriot's mentality and way of thinking is light years away from the german's


The Cypriots think they know everything, they always did. In reality, much is to be learn by recent events from the so called "Foreigners".

Just copied and pasted a few sentences from WIKI:

The East German regime started to falter in the summer of 1989, when Hungary opened a hole in the Iron Curtain. It caused an exodus of thousands of East Germans going to West Germany via Hungary. The Peaceful Revolution was a series of protests by East Germans. The Peaceful Revolution led to the GDR's first free elections on 18 March 1990
On 18 May 1990, the two German states signed a treaty agreeing on monetary, economic and social union. A reunification treaty between West Germany and the GDR was negotiated in mid-1990 and finally approved by large majorities in the legislative chambers of both countries on 20 September 1990.[5] After that last step Germany was officially united at 00:00 CET on 3 October 1990.


The Germans were pretty quick on this one. It just took them about a year to take care of business. Swift and bold action at work.

The Cypriots, after 36 years, are about to take a giant step backwards, thanks to our "brilliant politicians".

Georgios100


You're being hard on the politicians. Germany was reunified only after the Soviet Union started to crumble, following glasnost and perestroika. The same, I'm afraid, needs to happen to Turkey.

What's Turkish for 'glasnost' and 'perestroika'? Achieve that and Cypriot reunification will follow.


Hi there Malapapa,
You know, you are one of the better posters on CF, congrats.
All your answers/comments are right on the money.

Why I am being too hard on the politicians? Are you suggesting we give them more time? Another...what... let's say 30 years?

These guys are the scum of the earth! Take for example the Clerides-Ntenktas talks, lasted for ever. Both of them would meet and smoke pipes all day long. These "talks" when on and on and on... for years on end, while displaced citizens from both sides waited to go home!
Later, others tried to talk... nothing.

The 2004 horror show takes place. The people are asked to vote for the Annan plan. Both Tassos & Ntenktas were against it. Tassos, a former EOKA member and Ntenktas, a TMT founder. Failure again.

Now we have "intensive negotiations". What is your take on this? You already know my predictions.

Georgios


Georgios, just read my signature, it says it all.

Our politicians are tied, what else can they do in the face of blackmail and threats.

Now do you agree with the signature or not?

If yes, you have your answer.

If no, then we have to just agree to turkify all of Cyprus to please the few defeatists, which are you file??
User avatar
B25
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 6543
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:03 pm
Location: ** Classified **

Postby Malapapa » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:31 am

georgios100 wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
georgios100 wrote:
fwnh wrote:The cypriots will never accept that, they didn't in the past so why would they in the future? and ofcourse the cypriot's mentality and way of thinking is light years away from the german's


The Cypriots think they know everything, they always did. In reality, much is to be learn by recent events from the so called "Foreigners".

Just copied and pasted a few sentences from WIKI:

The East German regime started to falter in the summer of 1989, when Hungary opened a hole in the Iron Curtain. It caused an exodus of thousands of East Germans going to West Germany via Hungary. The Peaceful Revolution was a series of protests by East Germans. The Peaceful Revolution led to the GDR's first free elections on 18 March 1990
On 18 May 1990, the two German states signed a treaty agreeing on monetary, economic and social union. A reunification treaty between West Germany and the GDR was negotiated in mid-1990 and finally approved by large majorities in the legislative chambers of both countries on 20 September 1990.[5] After that last step Germany was officially united at 00:00 CET on 3 October 1990.


The Germans were pretty quick on this one. It just took them about a year to take care of business. Swift and bold action at work.

The Cypriots, after 36 years, are about to take a giant step backwards, thanks to our "brilliant politicians".

Georgios100


You're being hard on the politicians. Germany was reunified only after the Soviet Union started to crumble, following glasnost and perestroika. The same, I'm afraid, needs to happen to Turkey.

What's Turkish for 'glasnost' and 'perestroika'? Achieve that and Cypriot reunification will follow.


Hi there Malapapa,
You know, you are one of the better posters on CF, congrats.
All your answers/comments are right on the money.


Thanks. You're making me :oops:.

georgios100 wrote:Why I am being too hard on the politicians? Are you suggesting we give them more time? Another...what... let's say 30 years?


Forget politicians. They come and then they go. International law remains.

georgios100 wrote:These guys are the scum of the earth! Take for example the Clerides-Ntenktas talks, lasted for ever. Both of them would meet and smoke pipes all day long. These "talks" when on and on and on... for years on end, while displaced citizens from both sides waited to go home!
Later, others tried to talk... nothing.

The 2004 horror show takes place. The people are asked to vote for the Annan plan. Both Tassos & Ntenktas were against it. Tassos, a former EOKA member and Ntenktas, a TMT founder. Failure again.


Denktash talked about how the problem was solved in 1974. Whoever was president had to listen and try to get re-elected. Meanwile the country recovered, rebuilt, raised its game and self-esteem and finally secured EU membership for the whole island in 2004. The Annan plan was a joke consigned to the dustbin of history.

Little Cyprus's quest to remove the big, bad invader is a long, strategic war of attrition. The liberation forces have layed siege and are slowly cutting off all the supply lines.

georgios100 wrote:Now we have "intensive negotiations". What is your take on this? You already know my predictions.

Georgios


You know mine too (see above reference to 'glasnost' and 'perestroika').

Make no mistake; David will have to take down Goliath if his people are to be free.
Last edited by Malapapa on Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:44 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Malapapa
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 3416
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:13 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Cyprus Problem

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests