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[Oracle]

Deniz ... if you are remotely interested in your people telling the truth, can you in future refrain from answering for the renegades?

Let's see how "yorgozlu" weaves a tale from "hand" sticking out to his accusation that 11 people, just from his immediate family were buried ALIVE!

[DTA]

Deniz ... if you are remotely interested in your people telling the truth, can you in future refrain from answering for the renegades?

Let's see how "yorgozlu" weaves a tale from "hand" sticking out to his accusation that 11 people, just from his immediate family were buried ALIVE!

Answer and substantiate my question first.

[denizaksulu]

Turkey is not going anywhere until we agree a solution.

Forget solution, Turkey is not getting off the hook in Cyprus until she has made good on all the human rights abuses she has perpetrated.

Forget Turkey,bring back 11 members of my family that was buried alive and I for one WILL support YOU for the rest of my life.

Yugo, I am sorry for your loss, but how do you know there were buried alive??

Good question.

I have NOT spotted a reply .....

May be because there is no such member called "Yugo".

I already explained that, but anyhow here goes again;

Yurgozlu, I am sorry for your loss, but how do you know there were buried alive??

Only if you want to like, we don't want to be upsetting your body guard DTA now do we??

Does a place called AYVASIL ring a bell?

No!

Tell us how you know 11 members of your family were "buried alive" ....

At sun set, our patriotic Greek Cypriots from Ayvasýl, Mammari and Astromerit started to intrude into Turkish houses and collect everything they found. From one of these house fire was opened. The Greek Cypriots dynamited the house and 8 to 10 Turkish Cypriots left the house and came outside. All of them were killed. There were two Turks amongst them. The name of one of the Turks was Ömer, I do not remember the other’s name. They were Ay Vasilli’s good people. Their grandmother was in another house nearby with her small grandchildren. As soon she understood what was going on, she left the house and hug the dead bodies. Our Hellen Orthodox patriots killed the grandmother and the little girl too. They buried them into a mass grave. However, while doing this they were in a hurry and one of the Turks hand, who was also buried into this mass grave, was left outside the grave pointing the sky. That was the reason why the village is called Türkeli (Turkish hand) today.

None of these psychopath murderers was put into prison. None of them were taken in front of the international court of Lahey, neither their leaders, who gave them these orders. I wonder who was teaching the Greek Cypriot villagers living in the region to kill the Turkish villagers?

Who turned these people into animals and

Thank you Deniz for proving "Yorgozlu" is a liar .... and sad tidings to all involved in the bloody fight for Cyprus' freedom.

I was not trying to prove anything. I am searching for reports on the incident which I vaguely remember. It was one of the first attacks on villagers. There must be a UN report somewhere.

Take it easy, Old Man

Yorgozlu has first hand experience.

Let him fill in the gaps. The UN have NOT cast aspersions.

Oracle, like any normal being we all seek the truth; nothing wrong with that.

[Oracle]

Deniz ... if you are remotely interested in your people telling the truth, can you in future refrain from answering for the renegades?

Let's see how "yorgozlu" weaves a tale from "hand" sticking out to his accusation that 11 people, just from his immediate family were buried ALIVE!

Answer and substantiate my question first.

Who are you now and what are you talking about?

We are in the midst of dealing with "Y" who offered something tangible.

So, "Yorgozlu" ... Deniz said maybe up to 10 people were killed ... and you claimed 11 members of ONE family .... YOUR family, were buried alive!

That means all that Deniz said plus more were ALL buried alive. You have no proof other than a hand was still sticking out after they were shot and buried.

Any clarification?

Or, are you going to wait for another dozen Turks to turn up and save your sorry ass?

[yorgozlu]

Deniz ... if you are remotely interested in your people telling the truth, can you in future refrain from answering for the renegades?

Let's see how "yorgozlu" weaves a tale from "hand" sticking out to his accusation that 11 people, just from his immediate family were buried ALIVE!

Now now,dont get Deniz abi sucked into this.
I do not tell tales.Just do little more home work and I'm sure you'll be able to post the names as well.
However,I do not hold grudge,just class me as "learnt from the past."
As for the numbers (11),I have a very large family,from Luricina to Yorgoz(Iyorio,Tepebasi).

[DTA]

Deniz ... if you are remotely interested in your people telling the truth, can you in future refrain from answering for the renegades?

Let's see how "yorgozlu" weaves a tale from "hand" sticking out to his accusation that 11 people, just from his immediate family were buried ALIVE!

Answer and substantiate my question first.

Who are you now and what are you talking about?

We are in the midst of dealing with "Y" who offered something tangible.

So, "Yorgozlu" ... Deniz said maybe up to 10 people were killed ... and you claimed 11 members of ONE family .... YOUR family, were buried alive!

That means all that Deniz said plus more were ALL buried alive. You have no proof other than a hand was still sticking out after they were shot and buried.

Any clarification?

Or, are you going to wait for another dozen Turks to turn up and save your sorry ass?

Who am I? I am the person that is calling you out and showing you to be the hypocrite that you are.

Answer what was your losses from 1974 and what ever you claim them to be substantiate them as you have asked Yorgozlu to do.

Why should you do this? well because I asked you long before you asked Yorgozlu to do what you ask, if dont/ cant than you have NO right to ask anyone to substantiate anything.

[Oracle]

Once again, Yorgozlu, I ask you to verify your accusations because this is all I could come up with from a credible source about "burying alive".

It would appear that people buried alive have to be restrained in some way, such as tied up or tethered..... what is the evidence your 11 family members were all buried alive from this village of 10 dead that Deniz has offered you?




Turkish girl, 16, buried alive for talking to boys

Death reopens debate over 'honour' killings in Turkey, which account for half of all the country's murders

The hole where a 16-year-old girl was buried alive by her relatives in Adiyaman, southeastern Turkey

Turkish police have recovered the body of a 16-year-old girl they say was buried alive by relatives in an "honour" killing carried out as punishment for talking to boys.

The girl, who has been identified only by the initials MM, was found in a sitting position with her hands tied, in a two-metre hole dug under a chicken pen outside her home in Kahta, in the south-eastern province of Adiyaman.

Police made the discovery in December after a tip-off from an informant, the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet reported on its website.

The girl had previously been reported missing.

The informant told the police she had been killed following a family "council" meeting.

Her father and grandfather are said to have been arrested and held in custody pending trial. It is unclear whether they have been charged. The girl's mother was arrested but was later released.

Media reports said the father had told relatives he was unhappy that his daughter – one of nine children – had male friends. The grandfather is said to have beaten her for having relations with the opposite sex.

A postmortem examination revealed large amounts of soil in her lungs and stomach, indicating that she had been alive and conscious while being buried. Her body showed no signs of bruising.

The discovery will reopen the emotive debate in Turkey about "honour" killings, which are particularly prevalent in the impoverished south-east.

Official figures have indicated that more than 200 such killings take place each year, accounting for around half of all murders in Turkey.

[yorgozlu]

Deniz ... if you are remotely interested in your people telling the truth, can you in future refrain from answering for the renegades?

Let's see how "yorgozlu" weaves a tale from "hand" sticking out to his accusation that 11 people, just from his immediate family were buried ALIVE!

Answer and substantiate my question first.

Who are you now and what are you talking about?

We are in the midst of dealing with "Y" who offered something tangible.

So, "Yorgozlu" ... Deniz said maybe up to 10 people were killed ... and you claimed 11 members of ONE family .... YOUR family, were buried alive!

That means all that Deniz said plus more were ALL buried alive. You have no proof other than a hand was still sticking out after they were shot and buried.

Any clarification?

Or, are you going to wait for another dozen Turks to turn up and save your sorry ass?

No,I do not and will not justify your wish.
The only "sorry arse" I have ,is having to comprimise to you for the sake of other members.

[Get Real!]

just class me as "learnt from the past."

The only classification you’ve earned so far is that of a LIAR!

[Paphitis]

Take responsibility for your own actions, man!

Typical erratic hormonal woman!

Changes from one context to another to save face!

Paphitis, you are the one who made such insulting personal abusive remarks to Gabira in the first place; and now again you are the one who has to swing so far towards the other way and win her over just because you think DT.'s bucket photograph was actually her, that you leave me breathless with disbelief at your love-blind incredulity!

I DO NOT insult people in the EXTREME manner in which you do, and then I also do not have to do what you are pathetically doing to apologise, with your tail between your legs, because you think she has made some kindly remark, without seeing what an utter fool she has exposed you for.

But most of all ... do NOT then accuse others of provoking when it is YOU who insulted her SO extremely (but probably necessarily) in the FIRST place.

At least a pendulum has some harmony ...

End of with you!

Wrong again!

I never make any personally abusive remarks to anyone, unlike you.

Furthermore, Gabira knows full well that I only reacted to other comments made by her, and I now know that she made those comments as a knee jerk reaction to your abusive comments towards her in many threads and conversations! I think Gabira has many GC friends who know her true personality, and it is just a very big shame that you should see fit to torment her, rather than give her a chance.

I honestly thought you were more mature than that!

So once again, mellow out and stop making a fool of yourself.