Kifeas wrote:Bananiot wrote:It is easy to talk about settlers but we mustn't forget that they are human beings too who were sucked in by the spiral of the tragic events of 1974 and after. For this reason, their case can only be viewed on humanitarian principles. However, there is just one small hinge. There is a problem to be solved first and the issue of the settlers is not so much part of the problem as some think. If we can solve the other aspects of the problem, the issue of the settlers can be tackled on the basis of common sense. For example, those that were born here, will stay here, if they so wish. There is no other way about it, if we want our new start to be a good one, based on laws and principles.
There is no doubt that a number of GCs posting in this forum do commit a great deal of harm and disservice to the interests of the GC community and Cyprus in general, and this would definitely include people like GR, Oracle, Paphitis, B25 and some others. Bananiot, I feel you are not an exception either. What a “shame” and what a pity for Turkey not to think early enough -30 years ago, that some people like you would eventually have come up with the above little humanitarian theories, to have imported 1/5 a million settlers from Turkey (instead of only 50 thousand) so as today, their offspring numbering 1 million, would have been eligible to permanently stay in Cyprus and eventually acquire citizenship too.
No one is suggesting that people from mixed marriages with a Cypriot, and their offspring, should not be entitled what similar cases in the free areas do. Neither anyone in his right senses suggests that all the rest should be thrown into the sea, to swim back to Turkey. There are ways to deal with the issue, and most if not all of these people, with the right amount of compensation, will choose -even voluntarily, to return back to their original towns and villages in Turkey. Isn’t it a humanitarian disaster that millions of people in Africa and Asia are dying from starvation? Why don’t we allow 1 or 2 million of those to enter and permanently settle in Cyprus, where they possibly may have a better living?
I ask you Bananiot, would you still claim the above humanitarian laws and principles regarding those born here, if the number we are talking about was not 50 thousand, but 1/2 a million instead, had Turkey been more "clever" 20 – 30 years back; and if so, where do the civil, human and social rights of the indigenous inhabitants of this country fall?
I suppose we are all harmful to the GC community except for you Kifeas!
Tell me, what makes you think that your opinions will even make the slightest impact to the RoC's interests one way or the other, megalomaniac?
Go on Kifeas! I am in the mood for a laugh, especially since it is YOU that started negotiating with many Turk/TCs about the formalised partition of Cyprus, where at one stage you were even discussing land split ratios such as 80:20!
Who gave you the right to do this if our opinions even had the slightest impact to the RoC's interests? Did the RoC ask you to negotiate for a formalised partition? Did you ask me and every other Cypriot like Bananiot, Oracle, GR!, and B25 whether it was OK for you to do this, since our discussions here impact RoC interests, or were you just being stupid?
Is anyone surprised that you frown upon fighting for the liberation of Cyprus and opt for the Turkification instead?
