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[Oracle]

The Venetians governed Cyprus with the help of the learned Greek elite of the island. Something which never happened under the taxed oppression of the Ottomans.

I would give most anything to have had a Cyprus without the Turks.

[Kuruovali]

Some have been in Cyprus over 30 years, some were born on the island, others have married Cypriots. Any suggestions or solutions

Same as what is to happen to those who settled in the South (Pontian Greeks, Greeks from mainland Greece and the middle east), absolutley nothing!

K

[kurupetos]

Same old bullshit.

[YFred]

Same old bullshit.

Do you know what your name means? Did you choose it deliberately? or was that the best you could come up with?
Betragulluimu.

[BirKibrisli]

The Venetians governed Cyprus with the help of the learned Greek elite of the island. Something which never happened under the taxed oppression of the Ottomans.

I would give most anything to have had a Cyprus without the Turks.

If there were no "Turks" in Cyprus,most probably YOU wouldn't be here to enlighten us with your openminded views of the world...I would give almost anything too if that was the case...

[repulsewarrior]

...no "Turks" does not mean turcophones dr., and i too would give almost anything because we love this island it's true.

Just like the "Greeks", relatively they are few, as ugly perhaps but no better, they are the measure of the same extreme.

quite frankly i would not compare our ms. O to any of these plunderers, nor you my dear friend.

what is to happen to Turkish settlers if there is a solution:

firstly, if they are included into a solution, it will be because we as Cypriots regard them as victims as well.
secondly, it will be necessary to provide the originally displaced, at least for some the Right to Return as Communities, as well.
thirdly, Universal Rights, such as those confirmed by the case of Apostalides, would be respected, leases, etc. will be arranged.
forthly, given that "Greeks" can live as "Turks" and vice versa, many will still seek compensation from the IPCand its "Greek" equivalent to compensate the victims of the early 60's.
forthly, but i add, Turkey, like Greece must accept they have caused great misery in a Proxy War where Cypriots were
subjected to its horror. Britain would do well to display the same Grace.
fifthly, if Bizonal allows for enclaves pocketing the whole island, two National Assemblies can be constructed of components in making a community.
sixthly, given that it is possible to have more than two Assemblies, then as equals their esteem is measured by how well they treat minorities, with their own special needs, who live amongst them.
seventhly, as Cypriots without any other distinction we will vote for a Federal Government as well, and it is Sovereign in representing us as a State; as equals, Individuals and this island's dwellers.

nayway londoner, in my cyprus many settlers will return to Turkey, because they do not choose to be Cypriots, and those who would qualify for many likely a home of their own, rather than the houses they live in.

...if Justice is to be seen, things cannot remain the same.

[BirKibrisli]

...no "Turks" does not mean turcophones dr., and i too would give almost anything because we love this island it's true.

Just like the "Greeks", relatively they are few, as ugly perhaps but no better, they are the measure of the same extreme.

quite frankly i would not compare our ms. O to any of these plunderers, nor you my dear friend.

what is to happen to Turkish settlers if there is a solution:

firstly, if they are included into a solution, it will be because we as Cypriots regard them as victims as well.
secondly, it will be necessary to provide the originally displaced, at least for some the Right to Return as Communities, as well.
thirdly, Universal Rights, such as those confirmed by the case of Apostalides, would be respected, leases, etc. will be arranged.
forthly, given that "Greeks" can live as "Turks" and vice versa, many will still seek compensation from the IPCand its "Greek" equivalent to compensate the victims of the early 60's.
forthly, but i add, Turkey, like Greece must accept they have caused great misery in a Proxy War where Cypriots were
subjected to its horror. Britain would do well to display the same Grace.
fifthly, if Bizonal allows for enclaves pocketing the whole island, two National Assemblies can be constructed of components in making a community.
sixthly, given that it is possible to have more than two Assemblies, then as equals their esteem is measured by how well they treat minorities, with their own special needs, who live amongst them.
seventhly, as Cypriots without any other distinction we will vote for a Federal Government as well, and it is Sovereign in representing us as a State; as equals, Individuals and this island's dwellers.

nayway londoner, in my cyprus many settlers will return to Turkey, because they do not choose to be Cypriots, and those who would qualify for many likely a home of their own, rather than the houses they live in.

...if Justice is to be seen, things cannot remain the same.

Great to hear from you,dear RW...
you are one of the more evolved human beings on this Forum...I second most things you say...When it comes to "many enclaves" I believe the TCs would shy away from such an outcome,since it reminds them of the horrible times between 1963-74...Most Cypriots are not as noble as you are in spirit,hence they require more tangible guarantees that the bad old days will not return with vengence...The settlers will have to be treated as humanly as possible,without infringing on the rights of the refugees who might want to return...If politics is taken out of the equation,it wouldn't be too difficult to find a mutually agreeable compromise...However given the latest turn of events in the trnc,we would do well to approach the whole thing with some caution...respects and regards to you,as always...

[paliometoxo]

theree wont be a solution now at least not with ergul in charge

[Viewpoint]

theree wont be a solution now at least not with ergul in charge

All you have to do is wait another 5 years to see if there is any change.

[paliometoxo]

yep, a no solution is not just bad for us but bad for the tcs and turkey