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[Bananiot]

Kikapu

What are you saying, Bananiot, that the "Turks" behaved badly in Cyprus since 1571.??

No my friend, I did not say this. I could have said it however, but in this case you know very well, I am sure, that my response was to a baseless theoretical question of DT which had an ulterior motive, just like yours I am afraid, but I get your drift. Just to set your mind to rest, I would have been much happier, just like everybody I guess, if there were no invasions and occupations. However, the history of mankind is one of mass movement and given the legacy of globalisation, things will be no different in the future, simply "occupations" will take many different forms, more subtle perhaps but equally effective (look at poor old Greece).

[Bananiot]

Gasman, your last posts are very mature indeed. I could not agree more with you. Especially this one:

How can there ever be an acceptable solution when both sides seem to want to just continue to blame the other for past events whilst maintaining the total innocence of their own side throughout?

And while (it seems) leaders on both sides don't have the guts to convince their electorate that there will have to be concessions made.

[Sotos]

Kikapu

What are you saying, Bananiot, that the "Turks" behaved badly in Cyprus since 1571.??

No my friend, I did not say this. I could have said it however, but in this case you know very well, I am sure, that my response was to a baseless theoretical question of DT which had an ulterior motive, just like yours I am afraid, but I get your drift. Just to set your mind to rest, I would have been much happier, just like everybody I guess, if there were no invasions and occupations. However, the history of mankind is one of mass movement and given the legacy of globalisation, things will be no different in the future, simply "occupations" will take many different forms, more subtle perhaps but equally effective (look at poor old Greece).

How about sending you to Cambodia?

[YFred]

Kikapu

What are you saying, Bananiot, that the "Turks" behaved badly in Cyprus since 1571.??

No my friend, I did not say this. I could have said it however, but in this case you know very well, I am sure, that my response was to a baseless theoretical question of DT which had an ulterior motive, just like yours I am afraid, but I get your drift. Just to set your mind to rest, I would have been much happier, just like everybody I guess, if there were no invasions and occupations. However, the history of mankind is one of mass movement and given the legacy of globalisation, things will be no different in the future, simply "occupations" will take many different forms, more subtle perhaps but equally effective (look at poor old Greece).

Bananiot, I fear you have come to the attention of Shylock Homes. He has his own interrogation techniques I'll have you know.

[Piratis]

Gasman, your last posts are very mature indeed. I could not agree more with you. Especially this one:

How can there ever be an acceptable solution when both sides seem to want to just continue to blame the other for past events whilst maintaining the total innocence of their own side throughout?

And while (it seems) leaders on both sides don't have the guts to convince their electorate that there will have to be concessions made.

Our side does not need to blame the TCs for past events since we have absolutely nothing to gain from such blame games. We are not the ones who are trying to find excuses to violate the human rights of TCs and take their lands. On the contrary we support that both TCs and GCs should have their 100% human and democratic rights, with all Cypriots as equal citizens without any sort of racist discrimination.

Unfortunately the TCs choose to repeat a tiny part of the past (which they distort to suit their needs) ignoring the rest 99% of the past (and present) which doesn't suit their propaganda, trying to use that as an excuse to violate our human rights and take our lands, demanding that any "solution" should legalize the illegalities they enforce today and include several deviations from the EU acquis.

[humanist]

NO DEVIATIONS from EU acquis for the Cypriot people

[Bananiot]

But the EU tells us that we should look for a mutually accepted solution. Do you comprehend what this means Piratis?

[boulio]

But the EU tells us that we should look for a mutually accepted solution. Do you comprehend what this means Piratis?

the question should be do you comprehend Bananiot?mutually accepted does not mean accepting turkish demands and red lines.

[Piratis]

But the EU tells us that we should look for a mutually accepted solution. Do you comprehend what this means Piratis?

Do you? Mutually acceptable means acceptable by us as well, not something like the Annan plan which is unacceptable to us.

Furthermore, the EU is clear about which is the legal side in Cyprus. If the TCs have demands which make a mutually acceptable solution impossible then they are the ones who will continue facing the consequences of their illegalities.

[Bananiot]

Oh my God Bulio! If you were a Turk you would tell me "mutually accepted does not mean accepting greek demands and red lines". Have you any idea what we are talking about here?

Piratis

Furthermore, the EU is clear about which is the legal side in Cyprus. If the TCs have demands which make a mutually acceptable solution impossible then they are the ones who will continue facing the consequences of their illegalities.

Really, that simple! Then why did Papadopoulos signed the document telling Turkey to continue her positive contribution towards finding a solution?