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[Nikitas]

You will see as we near settlemen that the EU will rush to prevent the free movement of settlers from moving to their countries.

The situation sounds complex, but it is not. Those that marry Cypriots get nationality. Those that do not get antionality can stay, provided they get residence permits issued by the central federal government, where there will be a mixed GC-TC staff to decide these things.

And while we are on this humanitarian kick, what about the humanitarian issues of people like me, who have been forced to live all their working lives outside Cyprus because of the invasion and occupation? Proportionately there are more TCs in this situation than GCs. As DT pointed out above, we cannot forget these people in fvor of settlers. We must not forget that settlers did not materialise out of thin air, they have hometowns and family in Turkey to go back to. Expatriated Cypriots have no other place to call home.

[Nikitas]

You will see as we near settlemen that the EU will rush to prevent the free movement of settlers to their countries.

The situation sounds complex, but it is not. Those that marry Cypriots get nationality. Those that do not get antionality can stay, provided they get residence permits issued by the central federal government, where there will be a mixed GC-TC staff to decide these things.

And while we are on this humanitarian kick, what about the humanitarian issues of people like me, who have been forced to live all their working lives outside Cyprus because of the invasion and occupation? Proportionately there are more TCs in this situation than GCs. As DT pointed out above, we cannot forget these people in favor of settlers. We must not forget that settlers did not materialise out of thin air, they have hometowns and family in Turkey to go back to. Expatriated Cypriots have no other place to call home.

[Nikitas]

oops, double post

[BirKibrisli]

You will see as we near settlemen that the EU will rush to prevent the free movement of settlers from moving to their countries.

The situation sounds complex, but it is not. Those that marry Cypriots get nationality. Those that do not get antionality can stay, provided they get residence permits issued by the central federal government, where there will be a mixed GC-TC staff to decide these things.

And while we are on this humanitarian kick, what about the humanitarian issues of people like me, who have been forced to live all their working lives outside Cyprus because of the invasion and occupation? Proportionately there are more TCs in this situation than GCs. As DT pointed out above, we cannot forget these people in fvor of settlers. We must not forget that settlers did not materialise out of thin air, they have hometowns and family in Turkey to go back to. Expatriated Cypriots have no other place to call home.

You are right,Nikitas,and I am one of these expatriots who have no other place to call "home"...However,we are far better off than these poor sods economically,as we have established ourselves in foreign countries (some more foreign than others)and have comfortable homes and lives... The "settlers" might have somewhere else to call home,but nothing much else going for them...It is a difficult situation...As cymart mentioned we need to find out how many refugees would return to live in their former homes,and how many expats would want to return...And we can't really be sure about all that until we know what kind of a solution we will end up with...But one thing is for sure...The more time passes the less likely people would want to uproot themselves and start again...Another 35 years and the whole issue will settle all by itself...The settlers will become permanent,and the refugees and expats like us will become history...

[yialousa1971]

Back to Mongolia they will go.

[erolz3]

Previous discussion on same topic from Aug 2004 can be found here if anyone is interested.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=2932

[SKI-preo]

I consider that the settlers who are married to a native Cypriot or child should be allowed to stay(not in my house or properties) but in a high rise apartment block built by Turkey on Turkish Cypriot land. A number of Settlers may also be allowed to stay provided they complete rigorous psychological and background checks to ensure they would have skills & characteristics which would assist in the future development of Cyprus into an intergrated progressive democracy. If there are about 250,000 settlers & they are willing to live on Turkish Cypriot owned land and they have useful trades or skills then I have no problem if every last settler is allowed to stay even if they stay next door to me. Property developers need not apply. I find that the more useful a trade or skill someone has, the less radical they are. Radical extremists seem to be people who have failed in every other endeavor in life so they hide behind nationalistic or religious extremism hoping this will overshadow their failures.

[Acikgoz]

I find that the more useful a trade or skill someone has, the less radical they are. Radical extremists seem to be people who have failed in every other endeavor in life so they hide behind nationalistic or religious extremism hoping this will overshadow their failures.

Well Oracle, Get Real, B25, Pipi et al. SKI-preo really has your number.

[SKI-preo]

What useful skills do you have champ?

[Tim Drayton]

You will see as we near settlemen that the EU will rush to prevent the free movement of settlers from moving to their countries.

The situation sounds complex, but it is not. Those that marry Cypriots get nationality. Those that do not get antionality can stay, provided they get residence permits issued by the central federal government, where there will be a mixed GC-TC staff to decide these things.

And while we are on this humanitarian kick, what about the humanitarian issues of people like me, who have been forced to live all their working lives outside Cyprus because of the invasion and occupation? Proportionately there are more TCs in this situation than GCs. As DT pointed out above, we cannot forget these people in fvor of settlers. We must not forget that settlers did not materialise out of thin air, they have hometowns and family in Turkey to go back to. Expatriated Cypriots have no other place to call home.

Nikitas, I have spoken to young people in their twenties who were born in Cyprus of mainland Turkish parents who will look you straight in the eye and say, without a hint of irony, "I was born in Cyprus. I am Cypriot. This is my home." The situation, after the passage of so many years, is not as cut and dried as some people imagine.