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[Bananiot]

DT

I see no differences with Bananiots and Denktash's positions now.

Evet, care to clarify? I remember voting different from the Denktashes in 2004 and also vividly recall the cry of Rauf when the results were made known "I thank God the GC's voted no". I also know, and you know very well, that all my TC friends support or belong to parties on the left of the political spectrum. With this people we share a common vision for Cyprus and I am proud of this. But, putting me in the same boat with Denktash, does not tarnish my image, but yours I am afraid.

[DT.]

DT

I see no differences with Bananiots and Denktash's positions now.

Evet, care to clarify? I remember voting different from the Denktashes in 2004 and also vividly recall the cry of Rauf when the results were made known "I thank God the GC's voted no". I also know, and you know very well, that all my TC friends support or belong to parties on the left of the political spectrum. With this people we share a common vision for Cyprus and I am proud of this. But, putting me in the same boat with Denktash, does not tarnish my image, but yours I am afraid.

Bananiot accepts all settlers to remain on the island post solution. Its a humanitarian situation.
Denktash says Turk comes Turk goes. All settlers stay.
Practical differences? None

Bananiot accepts Turkish guarantees
Denktash won't have it any other way
Practical differences: none

Bananiot accepts a Turkish army contingent to remain on the island
Denktash demands a Turkish army contingent to remain on the island

Bananiot accepts that the refugees will never all go back to their homes
Denktash demands complete Bi-zonality
Practical differences: none

Bananiot accpets a Confederate solution as per Annan Plan
Denktash only accepts a 2 state solution
Practical differences: none

There's much more, would you like me to go on?

[Bananiot]

Yes please!

[B25]

Bananiot, I think you get the picture, in fact we all do. DT is 100% right about you, you cannot deny this, you said so your self.

What else do you want from us, blood?

Give it up, we know your stance, you have made that crystal to all the facists, bash patriots, cretins, rejectionist and a few more I can't recall now.

[DT.]

Yes please!

My favourite one:

Bananiot accepts a presidential council with rotating presidency
Denktash proposes in his 2003 Denktash plan a presidential council of 5GC's and 3TCs with rotating presidency

[YFred]

Yes please!

My favourite one:

Bananiot accepts a presidential council with rotating presidency
Denktash proposes in his 2003 Denktash plan a presidential council of 5GC's and 3TCs

Was that not Muhtar X's idea?

[DT.]

Yes please!

My favourite one:

Bananiot accepts a presidential council with rotating presidency
Denktash proposes in his 2003 Denktash plan a presidential council of 5GC's and 3TCs

Was that not Muharo X's idea?

No, the presidential council is reserved for TC's and those that accepted the Annan Plan. Talat proposed it again after Denktash and it was included in the AP

[YFred]

Yes please!

My favourite one:

Bananiot accepts a presidential council with rotating presidency
Denktash proposes in his 2003 Denktash plan a presidential council of 5GC's and 3TCs

Was that not Muharo X's idea?

No, the presidential council is reserved for TC's and those that accepted the Annan Plan. Talat proposed it again after Denktash and it was included in the AP

But who suggested in these talks?

[DT.]

Yes please!

My favourite one:

Bananiot accepts a presidential council with rotating presidency
Denktash proposes in his 2003 Denktash plan a presidential council of 5GC's and 3TCs

Was that not Muharo X's idea?

No, the presidential council is reserved for TC's and those that accepted the Annan Plan. Talat proposed it again after Denktash and it was included in the AP

But who suggested in these talks?

I know you're meant to be patient with slow people but sometimes...
President Christofias offered up ROtating Presidency
Talat offered up rotating presidential council

Feckin Hell!

[BirKibrisli]

So, we now acknowledge that above morals and democracy come self interests. You should have no more concerns about the stance of the Angloamericans Piratis. They look after their interests and we should look after ours. Our debate now should concentrate on where our interests lie. With the EU or with Russia. Remember, picking the right partners is what true patriotism is all about. As far as the Georgian refugees are concerned, too bad ... or simply, bad luck! Anyone that talks about morals should as for now just shut it!

P.S. In my view, abstention is worse than voting against. The west, in this case, knows very well why we abstained and it does not need a forum member to spell it out to them. Flirting with Russia, on the other hand, has no positive bearing on our plight, rather it makes things worse for us, since we lose leverage with those that counts.

We are not the ones who violate the rights of anybody else. We are just not in the position to protect others, we are not a super-power.

Our world is jungle and we have to play the game. We have no other option.

Russia is a friendly country and we are not going to destroy our relationship with them so you and your friends will be left alone to get what you want from our island.

So you must understand now why the TCs reacted the way they did faced with your Enosis jungle...They too had no other option...They had to play the game...The game of survival!!!

It was not a game of survival, but a game of gaining as much as you could, even on our expense (as you admited in another post of yours)

You want to play the game with us? Fine. Game on. When in the end you will lose remember that you are the ones who declared the war on us on June 1958 and since then you never accepted to end this war in a way that will be satisfactory to us.

WRONG,Piratis...You started the war on the TCs in 1950 when you voted for Enosis with Greece...The game of SURVIVAL was on from that moment in history...
And you never stopped trying to get your way,not in 1960,not in 1963 and not in 1974...And you are still trying to have your own way with the TCs in 2010!!!! I wish you could see how much damage you are doing to Cyprus...Ask Bananiot,he will tell you...

Bananiot's racism and one-sidedness has unfortunately lost him all credibility with most GC's. He could have been useful once upon a time as a bridgebuilder but to go to the extents of exaggerating claims and making things up just to make his country look bad has pushed him way over the edge.
I see no differences with Bananiots and Denktash's positions now.

Then you are as short-sighted as the rest of them here,and that surprises me,DT...Because he tells you what you don't want to hear does not make him racist...You are willing to jump on an honest mistake to attack Bananiot's credibility...What is the difference between voting against the withdrawal of Russian troops and abstaining from the vote to allow the Georgian refugees back home...???What moral or ethical difference does it make...??? Try some empathy,DT..What would you think if Georgia abstained in a vote to allow the GC refugees to return to their homes in the North???