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[miltiades]

Contemplate political strategies !!!!!
Are these the same strategies that you so ...eloquently put forward some time back ?
" Strike deep into Southern Turkey , obliterate the Turkish air force so as not to bomb us when we are busy marching into Kyrenia dealing with the 40 thousand Turkish troops " !!!!! You are a plonker aren't you !!

All you need to worry about is your colostomy bag, dentures, and state pension. Leave the CyProb to those who understand it.

I suppose you mean... Blackwater and Bin Fucking Laden !!!

[miltiades]

Contemplate political strategies !!!!!
Are these the same strategies that you so ...eloquently put forward some time back ?
" Strike deep into Southern Turkey , obliterate the Turkish air force so as not to bomb us when we are busy marching into Kyrenia dealing with the 40 thousand Turkish troops " !!!!! You are a plonker aren't you !!

All you need to worry about is your colostomy bag, dentures, and state pension. Leave the CyProb to those who understand it.

Sorry left out... Aslani Hodja !!

[Malapapa]

i just laugh. pls all of u,try to understand what we said BBF with one savournity and single citizanship and also quarantees of Turkey .

Which superpower does Turkey despise and fear the most, halil? Russia? China? America?

Because when Turkey accepts quarantees by this superpower for its Kurdish minority, Cyprus will accept the same quarantees for you.

We are only talking for our names not what other says or wants .Also we are the one side of it . can decide or ask not Cyprus. There is a 2 sides in Cyprus .TC's and GC's . It does not bother us what the others are after. It all their internal problem .My problem and others problems are not same as Cyprus problem .We are trying to build up bits which they were broken since 1964 which we were equal partner of the Cyprus.

My point is, halil, Turkey would never, ever accept such a ridiculous, imposition for Kurds. Yet, through its agents on the island (you), it expects such a ridiculous, unacceptable imposition on Cyprus for you. Forget it.

No solution for Cyprus is better than Turkey's continued guarantees on Cyprus.

Do you understand this?

Understand this also. Turkey and all the other outlaws in the north will be taken to the cleaners in the international courts. That's something that can be guaranteed.

[repulsewarrior]

There is no doubt that a number of GCs posting in this forum do commit a great deal of harm and disservice to the interests of the GC community and Cyprus in general,

Maybe you should come back to negotiate the gradual Turkification of Cyprus with the rest of the “Cypriot” fools… just make sure the process spreads out past your lifetime so that you won’t have to worry too much about what happens to the generations that come after you…

this is so sad.... 'turkification of cyprus' ...wow now that's a term you hear everytime people who share your believes run out of ways to support their sayings. This is the FEAR and HATRED people bestow in their hearts. You are talking about your fear of a minority that was always poorer, less educated in majority and had less oportunities in this country (this 3 interconnect) that you would or will ever have, taking over your country..... by which means are they gonna acomblish that?!

What did you actually think undemocratic and racist political arrangements like a BBF or BBC will ultimately bring... panacea?

How on earth does BBF and BBC stands for undemocratic and rasist arrangements ? especially when they are made by the people that are meant to follow those arrangements?

In the 21st century, anything other than a single, liberated, democratic, one-person one-vote, EU Republic is not worth the paper it’s written on!

A BBF/BBC is based on ETHNIC DIVISION and thus accommodates Greek and Turkish nationalisms, while rendering Cypriot nationalism impossible!

What more do you need to understand?

You have a very very good point Is it not the goal a unified cyprus after all? but how would you sugest we do that after 35 years of separation?

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15874

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16772

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19022

...please read.

[BirKibrisli]

i just laugh. pls all of u,try to understand what we said BBF with one savournity and single citizanship and also quarantees of Turkey .

Which superpower does Turkey despise and fear the most, halil? Russia? China? America?

Because when Turkey accepts quarantees by this superpower for its Kurdish minority, Cyprus will accept the same quarantees for you.

We are only talking for our names not what other says or wants .Also we are the one side of it . can decide or ask not Cyprus. There is a 2 sides in Cyprus .TC's and GC's . It does not bother us what the others are after. It all their internal problem .My problem and others problems are not same as Cyprus problem .We are trying to build up bits which they were broken since 1964 which we were equal partner of the Cyprus.

My point is, halil, Turkey would never, ever accept such a ridiculous, imposition for Kurds. Yet, through its agents on the island (you), it expects such a ridiculous, unacceptable imposition on Cyprus for you. Forget it.

No solution for Cyprus is better than Turkey's continued guarantees on Cyprus.

Do you understand this?

Understand this also. Turkey and all the other outlaws in the north will be taken to the cleaners in the international courts. That's something that can be guaranteed.

You are forgetting one key point,Malapapa...
There is already an international agreement,still in operation,which makes Turkey a guarantor...The TCs are not asking for anything new or out of the blue...If you want the TCs to give up what they already have you have to come up with some pretty strong arguments and alternatives...making silly analogies like the Kurds and the Chinese will not do it...

[BirKibrisli]

So what should i goverment do to ensure that the status quo doesn't stay as it is for too long to ensure that it's never gonna be too late to change things to how they used to be when RoC was formed?
Isn't after all the RoC position that no new state should be formed? but rather 2 unified federations that make up the RoC? no different name, no 'parthenogenesis' ?

Cyprus must make a global announcement (broadcast on ALL major networks 4-5 times a day) calling upon the international community and particularly the UN Security Council, to answer why a UN member sovereign republic is being denied/ignored from enjoying a democratic, one-person one-vote system in accordance with EU and UN principals, and that she will no longer participate in any further illegal rubbish to appease Turkey or anyone else, and that the Cyprus National Guard is standing by ready in case of an emergency to defend her territorial integrity in accordance with UN principals, etc, etc.

They MUST put decades-old international institutions in the spotlight before the whole world, by causing a MAJOR INTERNATIONAL SCENE to be heard!

The answer to this question is very simple...BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR SOVEREIGN REPUBLIC HAS ACHIEVED THAT STATUS BY UNDEMOCRATIC MEANS,TEARING UP INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS,AND SPITTING ON THE DEMCORATIC AND HUMAN RIGHTS OF THEIR LEGITIMATE PARTNERS... The Powers-that-be in UN know this very well,they let you get away with it for their own interests...

Back to the keyboard,Tiberius...

[B25]

i just laugh. pls all of u,try to understand what we said BBF with one savournity and single citizanship and also quarantees of Turkey .

Which superpower does Turkey despise and fear the most, halil? Russia? China? America?

Because when Turkey accepts quarantees by this superpower for its Kurdish minority, Cyprus will accept the same quarantees for you.

We are only talking for our names not what other says or wants .Also we are the one side of it . can decide or ask not Cyprus. There is a 2 sides in Cyprus .TC's and GC's . It does not bother us what the others are after. It all their internal problem .My problem and others problems are not same as Cyprus problem .We are trying to build up bits which they were broken since 1964 which we were equal partner of the Cyprus.

My point is, halil, Turkey would never, ever accept such a ridiculous, imposition for Kurds. Yet, through its agents on the island (you), it expects such a ridiculous, unacceptable imposition on Cyprus for you. Forget it.

No solution for Cyprus is better than Turkey's continued guarantees on Cyprus.

Do you understand this?

Understand this also. Turkey and all the other outlaws in the north will be taken to the cleaners in the international courts. That's something that can be guaranteed.

You are forgetting one key point,Malapapa...
There is already an international agreement,still in operation,which makes Turkey a guarantor...The TCs are not asking for anything new or out of the blue...If you want the TCs to give up what they already have you have to come up with some pretty strong arguments and alternatives...making silly analogies like the Kurds and the Chinese will not do it...

Rubbish, the Turks have no such guarantee in place, that was forfeited the moment turkey violated the original agrrement and invaded, brutally murdered thousands, raped hundreds, ethically cleansed 100's of thousands and usurped 37% of the island. Is this the action of a guarantor Bir, if yes you can stick it mate.

There is no such agreement. the TCs have a 40,000 army of thugs policing them nothing more.

[Get Real!]

The answer to this question is very simple...BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR SOVEREIGN REPUBLIC HAS ACHIEVED THAT STATUS BY UNDEMOCRATIC MEANS,TEARING UP INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS,AND SPITTING ON THE DEMCORATIC AND HUMAN RIGHTS OF THEIR LEGITIMATE PARTNERS... The Powers-that-be in UN know this very well,they let you get away with it for their own interests...

Back to the keyboard,Tiberius...

It was the uneducated TCs who spat the dummy by abandoning the govt, declaring it null & void, and rushing to arm themselves so think again...

[BirKibrisli]

i just laugh. pls all of u,try to understand what we said BBF with one savournity and single citizanship and also quarantees of Turkey .

Which superpower does Turkey despise and fear the most, halil? Russia? China? America?

Because when Turkey accepts quarantees by this superpower for its Kurdish minority, Cyprus will accept the same quarantees for you.

We are only talking for our names not what other says or wants .Also we are the one side of it . can decide or ask not Cyprus. There is a 2 sides in Cyprus .TC's and GC's . It does not bother us what the others are after. It all their internal problem .My problem and others problems are not same as Cyprus problem .We are trying to build up bits which they were broken since 1964 which we were equal partner of the Cyprus.

My point is, halil, Turkey would never, ever accept such a ridiculous, imposition for Kurds. Yet, through its agents on the island (you), it expects such a ridiculous, unacceptable imposition on Cyprus for you. Forget it.

No solution for Cyprus is better than Turkey's continued guarantees on Cyprus.

Do you understand this?

Understand this also. Turkey and all the other outlaws in the north will be taken to the cleaners in the international courts. That's something that can be guaranteed.

You are forgetting one key point,Malapapa...
There is already an international agreement,still in operation,which makes Turkey a guarantor...The TCs are not asking for anything new or out of the blue...If you want the TCs to give up what they already have you have to come up with some pretty strong arguments and alternatives...making silly analogies like the Kurds and the Chinese will not do it...

Rubbish, the Turks have no such guarantee in place, that was forfeited the moment turkey violated the original agrrement and invaded, brutally murdered thousands, raped hundreds, ethically cleansed 100's of thousands and usurped 37% of the island. Is this the action of a guarantor Bir, if yes you can stick it mate.

There is no such agreement. the TCs have a 40,000 army of thugs policing them nothing more.

Whatever you might think of Turkey's actions as a guarantor,there is no clause in the agreement which says that right would be extinguished IF one side is not happy with the guarantor's actions...So the right exists until it is removed by international agreements,and cannot be done unilaterally...You can't pick and choose which part of an agrement you will keep and which part you will disregard,B25...I don't blame you though,because you got away with driving the TCs out of government and still kept your international legitimacy. So you think you can do whatever you like...

[Get Real!]

Whatever you might think of Turkey's actions as a guarantor,there is no clause in the agreement which says that right would be extinguished IF one side is not happy with the guarantor's actions...So the right exists until it is removed by international agreements,and cannot be done unilaterally...

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle17.htm