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Postby Gasman » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:54 pm

Do you mean standing by to take the north part of the Island by force?


That's what it sounded like to me. Can't believe anyone would want to go there again, having read all the tales of heartbreak, misery and woe after the last turnout.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:58 pm

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fwnh wrote:So what should i goverment do to ensure that the status quo doesn't stay as it is for too long to ensure that it's never gonna be too late to change things to how they used to be when RoC was formed?
Isn't after all the RoC position that no new state should be formed? but rather 2 unified federations that make up the RoC? no different name, no 'parthenogenesis' ?

Cyprus must make a global announcement (broadcast on ALL major networks 4-5 times a day) calling upon the international community and particularly the UN Security Council, to answer why a UN member sovereign republic is being denied/ignored from enjoying a democratic, one-person one-vote system in accordance with EU and UN principals, and that she will no longer participate in any further illegal rubbish to appease Turkey or anyone else, and that the Cyprus National Guard is standing by ready in case of an emergency to defend her territorial integrity in accordance with UN principals, etc, etc.

They MUST put decades-old international institutions in the spotlight before the whole world, by causing a MAJOR INTERNATIONAL SCENE to be heard!


Do you mean standing by to take the north part of the Island by force?

In standby, ready for Turkey’s spitting of the dummy and/or any other unforeseen event. The idea was to cause a major international scene was it not?

If it somehow also means the storming of the occupied territory using the CNG’s combined 100,000 strong force and firepower coming out their ears, I for one am all for it... but that’s another story outside of what I initially suggested.
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Postby DTA » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:12 pm

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fwnh wrote:So what should i goverment do to ensure that the status quo doesn't stay as it is for too long to ensure that it's never gonna be too late to change things to how they used to be when RoC was formed?
Isn't after all the RoC position that no new state should be formed? but rather 2 unified federations that make up the RoC? no different name, no 'parthenogenesis' ?

Cyprus must make a global announcement (broadcast on ALL major networks 4-5 times a day) calling upon the international community and particularly the UN Security Council, to answer why a UN member sovereign republic is being denied/ignored from enjoying a democratic, one-person one-vote system in accordance with EU and UN principals, and that she will no longer participate in any further illegal rubbish to appease Turkey or anyone else, and that the Cyprus National Guard is standing by ready in case of an emergency to defend her territorial integrity in accordance with UN principals, etc, etc.

They MUST put decades-old international institutions in the spotlight before the whole world, by causing a MAJOR INTERNATIONAL SCENE to be heard!


Do you mean standing by to take the north part of the Island by force?

In standby, ready for Turkey’s spitting of the dummy and/or any other unforeseen event. The idea was to cause a major international scene was it not?

If it somehow also means the storming of the occupied territory using the CNG’s combined 100,000 strong force and firepower coming out their ears, I for one am all for it... but that’s another story outside of what I initially suggested.


Would you want the 100,000 strong CNG to attack the north, would that be your aim? say for example if Turkey just ignored your 'positioning'
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:24 pm

DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
fwnh wrote:So what should i goverment do to ensure that the status quo doesn't stay as it is for too long to ensure that it's never gonna be too late to change things to how they used to be when RoC was formed?
Isn't after all the RoC position that no new state should be formed? but rather 2 unified federations that make up the RoC? no different name, no 'parthenogenesis' ?

Cyprus must make a global announcement (broadcast on ALL major networks 4-5 times a day) calling upon the international community and particularly the UN Security Council, to answer why a UN member sovereign republic is being denied/ignored from enjoying a democratic, one-person one-vote system in accordance with EU and UN principals, and that she will no longer participate in any further illegal rubbish to appease Turkey or anyone else, and that the Cyprus National Guard is standing by ready in case of an emergency to defend her territorial integrity in accordance with UN principals, etc, etc.

They MUST put decades-old international institutions in the spotlight before the whole world, by causing a MAJOR INTERNATIONAL SCENE to be heard!


Do you mean standing by to take the north part of the Island by force?

In standby, ready for Turkey’s spitting of the dummy and/or any other unforeseen event. The idea was to cause a major international scene was it not?

If it somehow also means the storming of the occupied territory using the CNG’s combined 100,000 strong force and firepower coming out their ears, I for one am all for it... but that’s another story outside of what I initially suggested.

Would you want the 100,000 strong CNG to attack the north, would that be your aim? say for example if Turkey just ignored your 'positioning'

The level of escalation is up to the orchestrator. One can push for a purely international political scene or combine it with a military threat/agenda.

For example, a little military incident or two to further draw global attention would go a long way if properly planned and executed.

As for the political maneuvers Cyprus must…

1. Revoke all past illegal plans and theories that contravene her UN status.
2. Indefinitely suspend all talks/negotiations involving any such illegalities.
3. Announce the invalidation of the "Treaty of Guarantee"…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle17.htm

4. Demand the immediate execution of UN Resolutions 361 (1974) and 541 (1983). (Make them binding and enforceable)

Etc. The effects of a threat of her withdrawal from the UN and/or EU, should also be meticulously studied.
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Postby DTA » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:31 pm

Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
fwnh wrote:So what should i goverment do to ensure that the status quo doesn't stay as it is for too long to ensure that it's never gonna be too late to change things to how they used to be when RoC was formed?
Isn't after all the RoC position that no new state should be formed? but rather 2 unified federations that make up the RoC? no different name, no 'parthenogenesis' ?

Cyprus must make a global announcement (broadcast on ALL major networks 4-5 times a day) calling upon the international community and particularly the UN Security Council, to answer why a UN member sovereign republic is being denied/ignored from enjoying a democratic, one-person one-vote system in accordance with EU and UN principals, and that she will no longer participate in any further illegal rubbish to appease Turkey or anyone else, and that the Cyprus National Guard is standing by ready in case of an emergency to defend her territorial integrity in accordance with UN principals, etc, etc.

They MUST put decades-old international institutions in the spotlight before the whole world, by causing a MAJOR INTERNATIONAL SCENE to be heard!


Do you mean standing by to take the north part of the Island by force?

In standby, ready for Turkey’s spitting of the dummy and/or any other unforeseen event. The idea was to cause a major international scene was it not?

If it somehow also means the storming of the occupied territory using the CNG’s combined 100,000 strong force and firepower coming out their ears, I for one am all for it... but that’s another story outside of what I initially suggested.

Would you want the 100,000 strong CNG to attack the north, would that be your aim? say for example if Turkey just ignored your 'positioning'

The level of escalation is up to the orchestrator. One can push for a purely international political scene or combine it with a military threat/agenda.

For example, a little military incident or two to further draw global attention would go a long way if properly planned and executed.

As for the political maneuvers Cyprus must…

1. Revoke all past illegal plans and theories that contravene her UN status.
2. Indefinitely suspend all talks/negotiations involving any such illegalities.
3. Announce the invalidation of the "Treaty of Guarantee"…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle17.htm

4. Demand the immediate execution of UN Resolutions 361 (1974) and 541 (1983). (Make them binding and enforceable)

Etc. The effects of a threat of her withdrawal from the UN and/or EU, should also be meticulously studied.


So in terms of a 'military incident or two' you would attack first? who is the orchestrator?
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:38 pm

DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
fwnh wrote:So what should i goverment do to ensure that the status quo doesn't stay as it is for too long to ensure that it's never gonna be too late to change things to how they used to be when RoC was formed?
Isn't after all the RoC position that no new state should be formed? but rather 2 unified federations that make up the RoC? no different name, no 'parthenogenesis' ?

Cyprus must make a global announcement (broadcast on ALL major networks 4-5 times a day) calling upon the international community and particularly the UN Security Council, to answer why a UN member sovereign republic is being denied/ignored from enjoying a democratic, one-person one-vote system in accordance with EU and UN principals, and that she will no longer participate in any further illegal rubbish to appease Turkey or anyone else, and that the Cyprus National Guard is standing by ready in case of an emergency to defend her territorial integrity in accordance with UN principals, etc, etc.

They MUST put decades-old international institutions in the spotlight before the whole world, by causing a MAJOR INTERNATIONAL SCENE to be heard!


Do you mean standing by to take the north part of the Island by force?

In standby, ready for Turkey’s spitting of the dummy and/or any other unforeseen event. The idea was to cause a major international scene was it not?

If it somehow also means the storming of the occupied territory using the CNG’s combined 100,000 strong force and firepower coming out their ears, I for one am all for it... but that’s another story outside of what I initially suggested.

Would you want the 100,000 strong CNG to attack the north, would that be your aim? say for example if Turkey just ignored your 'positioning'

The level of escalation is up to the orchestrator. One can push for a purely international political scene or combine it with a military threat/agenda.

For example, a little military incident or two to further draw global attention would go a long way if properly planned and executed.

As for the political maneuvers Cyprus must…

1. Revoke all past illegal plans and theories that contravene her UN status.
2. Indefinitely suspend all talks/negotiations involving any such illegalities.
3. Announce the invalidation of the "Treaty of Guarantee"…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle17.htm

4. Demand the immediate execution of UN Resolutions 361 (1974) and 541 (1983). (Make them binding and enforceable)

Etc. The effects of a threat of her withdrawal from the UN and/or EU, should also be meticulously studied.


So in terms of a 'military incident or two' you would attack first? who is the orchestrator?

Image

It’s like I’m showing you a 2 carat diamond ring and you’re worried about the carats of the little band of gold! :roll:
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Postby DTA » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:41 pm

Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
fwnh wrote:So what should i goverment do to ensure that the status quo doesn't stay as it is for too long to ensure that it's never gonna be too late to change things to how they used to be when RoC was formed?
Isn't after all the RoC position that no new state should be formed? but rather 2 unified federations that make up the RoC? no different name, no 'parthenogenesis' ?

Cyprus must make a global announcement (broadcast on ALL major networks 4-5 times a day) calling upon the international community and particularly the UN Security Council, to answer why a UN member sovereign republic is being denied/ignored from enjoying a democratic, one-person one-vote system in accordance with EU and UN principals, and that she will no longer participate in any further illegal rubbish to appease Turkey or anyone else, and that the Cyprus National Guard is standing by ready in case of an emergency to defend her territorial integrity in accordance with UN principals, etc, etc.

They MUST put decades-old international institutions in the spotlight before the whole world, by causing a MAJOR INTERNATIONAL SCENE to be heard!


Do you mean standing by to take the north part of the Island by force?

In standby, ready for Turkey’s spitting of the dummy and/or any other unforeseen event. The idea was to cause a major international scene was it not?

If it somehow also means the storming of the occupied territory using the CNG’s combined 100,000 strong force and firepower coming out their ears, I for one am all for it... but that’s another story outside of what I initially suggested.

Would you want the 100,000 strong CNG to attack the north, would that be your aim? say for example if Turkey just ignored your 'positioning'

The level of escalation is up to the orchestrator. One can push for a purely international political scene or combine it with a military threat/agenda.

For example, a little military incident or two to further draw global attention would go a long way if properly planned and executed.

As for the political maneuvers Cyprus must…

1. Revoke all past illegal plans and theories that contravene her UN status.
2. Indefinitely suspend all talks/negotiations involving any such illegalities.
3. Announce the invalidation of the "Treaty of Guarantee"…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle17.htm

4. Demand the immediate execution of UN Resolutions 361 (1974) and 541 (1983). (Make them binding and enforceable)

Etc. The effects of a threat of her withdrawal from the UN and/or EU, should also be meticulously studied.


So in terms of a 'military incident or two' you would attack first? who is the orchestrator?

Image

It’s like I’m showing you a 2 carat diamond ring and you’re worried about the carats of the little band of gold! :roll:


Interesting analogy not really apt though, can you answer my questions though as I am interested to hear more about your stratergy.
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Postby miltiades » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:46 pm

DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
fwnh wrote:So what should i goverment do to ensure that the status quo doesn't stay as it is for too long to ensure that it's never gonna be too late to change things to how they used to be when RoC was formed?
Isn't after all the RoC position that no new state should be formed? but rather 2 unified federations that make up the RoC? no different name, no 'parthenogenesis' ?

Cyprus must make a global announcement (broadcast on ALL major networks 4-5 times a day) calling upon the international community and particularly the UN Security Council, to answer why a UN member sovereign republic is being denied/ignored from enjoying a democratic, one-person one-vote system in accordance with EU and UN principals, and that she will no longer participate in any further illegal rubbish to appease Turkey or anyone else, and that the Cyprus National Guard is standing by ready in case of an emergency to defend her territorial integrity in accordance with UN principals, etc, etc.

They MUST put decades-old international institutions in the spotlight before the whole world, by causing a MAJOR INTERNATIONAL SCENE to be heard!


Do you mean standing by to take the north part of the Island by force?

I think GR , by MAJOR INTERNATIONAL SCENE , is advocating action similar to that taken by Palestinians and Islamists the world round , hijack a plane here and there , suicide bombers , attack a few embassies , you know the usual things that ....freedom fighters engage in !!
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:51 pm

DTA wrote:Interesting analogy not really apt though, can you answer my questions though as I am interested to hear more about your stratergy.


So in terms of a 'military incident or two' you would attack first?

What’s important is what is CONCEIVED by the international community hence “properly planned and executed”!

who is the orchestrator?

The one that masterminds/plans the whole thing… wasn’t that obvious? :?

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Postby DTA » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:53 pm

miltiades wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
fwnh wrote:So what should i goverment do to ensure that the status quo doesn't stay as it is for too long to ensure that it's never gonna be too late to change things to how they used to be when RoC was formed?
Isn't after all the RoC position that no new state should be formed? but rather 2 unified federations that make up the RoC? no different name, no 'parthenogenesis' ?

Cyprus must make a global announcement (broadcast on ALL major networks 4-5 times a day) calling upon the international community and particularly the UN Security Council, to answer why a UN member sovereign republic is being denied/ignored from enjoying a democratic, one-person one-vote system in accordance with EU and UN principals, and that she will no longer participate in any further illegal rubbish to appease Turkey or anyone else, and that the Cyprus National Guard is standing by ready in case of an emergency to defend her territorial integrity in accordance with UN principals, etc, etc.

They MUST put decades-old international institutions in the spotlight before the whole world, by causing a MAJOR INTERNATIONAL SCENE to be heard!


Do you mean standing by to take the north part of the Island by force?

I think GR , by MAJOR INTERNATIONAL SCENE , is advocating action similar to that taken by Palestinians and Islamists the world round , hijack a plane here and there , suicide bombers , attack a few embassies , you know the usual things that ....freedom fighters engage in !!


Is this what you mean GR?
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