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Postby DTA » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:57 am

Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:The GC's have established an Apartheid in Cyprus since 1963, if you deny this, you are nothing less than a nazi denier you are a racist and a fascist.

From the Secretary-General of the United Nations in 1965:

"The Turkish Cypriot leaders have adhered to a rigid stand against any measures which might involve having members of the two communities live and work together, or which might place Turkish Cypriots in situations where they would have to acknowledge the authority of Government agents. Indeed, since the Turkish Cypriot leadership is committed to physical and geographical separation of the communities as a political goal, it is not likely to encourage activities by Turkish Cypriots which may be interpreted as demonstrating the merits of an alternative policy. The result has been a seemingly deliberate policy of self-segregation by the Turkish Cypriots"

UN document (S/6426)


You owe Oracle an apology… :wink:


I have one response to you... The Akridas plan unless you jokers are going to deny this step by step plan for Apartied... have you read it? are you going to deny it?

Once you apologize to Oracle I’ll proceed to satisfy your next query.

I see no reason in jumping around like a rabbit on heat from one issue to the next without closure.


Why should I say sorry to someone who has not answered my questions who is unable to see the irony of her own stance... No you answer my questions if you are a true cypriot looking for justice for all cypriots. Unless you are nothing more tan a racist and fascist that has been blinded by the lies of the ROC
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:04 am

DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:The GC's have established an Apartheid in Cyprus since 1963, if you deny this, you are nothing less than a nazi denier you are a racist and a fascist.

From the Secretary-General of the United Nations in 1965:

"The Turkish Cypriot leaders have adhered to a rigid stand against any measures which might involve having members of the two communities live and work together, or which might place Turkish Cypriots in situations where they would have to acknowledge the authority of Government agents. Indeed, since the Turkish Cypriot leadership is committed to physical and geographical separation of the communities as a political goal, it is not likely to encourage activities by Turkish Cypriots which may be interpreted as demonstrating the merits of an alternative policy. The result has been a seemingly deliberate policy of self-segregation by the Turkish Cypriots"

UN document (S/6426)


You owe Oracle an apology… :wink:


I have one response to you... The Akridas plan unless you jokers are going to deny this step by step plan for Apartied... have you read it? are you going to deny it?

Once you apologize to Oracle I’ll proceed to satisfy your next query.

I see no reason in jumping around like a rabbit on heat from one issue to the next without closure.


Why should I say sorry to someone who has not answered my questions who is unable to see the irony of her own stance... No you answer my questions if you are a true cypriot looking for justice for all cypriots. Unless you are nothing more tan a racist and fascist that has been blinded by the lies of the ROC

I’ll happily answer ALL your questions as you present them, but it’s subject to a closure at each step of the way upon the supply of credible evidence.
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Postby DTA » Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:12 am

Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:The GC's have established an Apartheid in Cyprus since 1963, if you deny this, you are nothing less than a nazi denier you are a racist and a fascist.

From the Secretary-General of the United Nations in 1965:

"The Turkish Cypriot leaders have adhered to a rigid stand against any measures which might involve having members of the two communities live and work together, or which might place Turkish Cypriots in situations where they would have to acknowledge the authority of Government agents. Indeed, since the Turkish Cypriot leadership is committed to physical and geographical separation of the communities as a political goal, it is not likely to encourage activities by Turkish Cypriots which may be interpreted as demonstrating the merits of an alternative policy. The result has been a seemingly deliberate policy of self-segregation by the Turkish Cypriots"

UN document (S/6426)


You owe Oracle an apology… :wink:


I have one response to you... The Akridas plan unless you jokers are going to deny this step by step plan for Apartied... have you read it? are you going to deny it?

Once you apologize to Oracle I’ll proceed to satisfy your next query.

I see no reason in jumping around like a rabbit on heat from one issue to the next without closure.


Why should I say sorry to someone who has not answered my questions who is unable to see the irony of her own stance... No you answer my questions if you are a true cypriot looking for justice for all cypriots. Unless you are nothing more tan a racist and fascist that has been blinded by the lies of the ROC

I’ll happily answer ALL your questions as you present them, but it’s subject to a closure at each step of the way upon the supply of credible evidence.


Ok lets do this one by one. why is the right of property ownership subject to a six month stay in the ROC by the...... ROC?

is this against human rights?
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:18 am

DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:The GC's have established an Apartheid in Cyprus since 1963, if you deny this, you are nothing less than a nazi denier you are a racist and a fascist.

From the Secretary-General of the United Nations in 1965:

"The Turkish Cypriot leaders have adhered to a rigid stand against any measures which might involve having members of the two communities live and work together, or which might place Turkish Cypriots in situations where they would have to acknowledge the authority of Government agents. Indeed, since the Turkish Cypriot leadership is committed to physical and geographical separation of the communities as a political goal, it is not likely to encourage activities by Turkish Cypriots which may be interpreted as demonstrating the merits of an alternative policy. The result has been a seemingly deliberate policy of self-segregation by the Turkish Cypriots"

UN document (S/6426)


You owe Oracle an apology… :wink:


I have one response to you... The Akridas plan unless you jokers are going to deny this step by step plan for Apartied... have you read it? are you going to deny it?

Once you apologize to Oracle I’ll proceed to satisfy your next query.

I see no reason in jumping around like a rabbit on heat from one issue to the next without closure.


Why should I say sorry to someone who has not answered my questions who is unable to see the irony of her own stance... No you answer my questions if you are a true cypriot looking for justice for all cypriots. Unless you are nothing more tan a racist and fascist that has been blinded by the lies of the ROC

I’ll happily answer ALL your questions as you present them, but it’s subject to a closure at each step of the way upon the supply of credible evidence.


Ok lets do this one by one. why is the right of property ownership subject to a six month stay in the ROC by the...... ROC?

is this against human rights?

First you must either admit defeat or counter my evidence of TC self-segregation.
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Postby DTA » Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:24 am

Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:The GC's have established an Apartheid in Cyprus since 1963, if you deny this, you are nothing less than a nazi denier you are a racist and a fascist.

From the Secretary-General of the United Nations in 1965:

"The Turkish Cypriot leaders have adhered to a rigid stand against any measures which might involve having members of the two communities live and work together, or which might place Turkish Cypriots in situations where they would have to acknowledge the authority of Government agents. Indeed, since the Turkish Cypriot leadership is committed to physical and geographical separation of the communities as a political goal, it is not likely to encourage activities by Turkish Cypriots which may be interpreted as demonstrating the merits of an alternative policy. The result has been a seemingly deliberate policy of self-segregation by the Turkish Cypriots"

UN document (S/6426)


You owe Oracle an apology… :wink:


I have one response to you... The Akridas plan unless you jokers are going to deny this step by step plan for Apartied... have you read it? are you going to deny it?

Once you apologize to Oracle I’ll proceed to satisfy your next query.

I see no reason in jumping around like a rabbit on heat from one issue to the next without closure.


Why should I say sorry to someone who has not answered my questions who is unable to see the irony of her own stance... No you answer my questions if you are a true cypriot looking for justice for all cypriots. Unless you are nothing more tan a racist and fascist that has been blinded by the lies of the ROC

I’ll happily answer ALL your questions as you present them, but it’s subject to a closure at each step of the way upon the supply of credible evidence.


Ok lets do this one by one. why is the right of property ownership subject to a six month stay in the ROC by the...... ROC?

is this against human rights?

First you must either admit defeat or counter my evidence of TC self-segregation.


who says I should do this? I was having debate with Oracle and asking her why she does not answer my questions, she could not answer you decided to get involved and stated "I’ll happily answer ALL your questions as you present them" so live by your word, Ps you have not answered my questions about being a fascist, although to your credit you have already admitted you are a racist.

Ps how do you feel that being a racist contributes to the Cyprus solution?
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:59 pm

DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:The GC's have established an Apartheid in Cyprus since 1963, if you deny this, you are nothing less than a nazi denier you are a racist and a fascist.

From the Secretary-General of the United Nations in 1965:

"The Turkish Cypriot leaders have adhered to a rigid stand against any measures which might involve having members of the two communities live and work together, or which might place Turkish Cypriots in situations where they would have to acknowledge the authority of Government agents. Indeed, since the Turkish Cypriot leadership is committed to physical and geographical separation of the communities as a political goal, it is not likely to encourage activities by Turkish Cypriots which may be interpreted as demonstrating the merits of an alternative policy. The result has been a seemingly deliberate policy of self-segregation by the Turkish Cypriots"

UN document (S/6426)


You owe Oracle an apology… :wink:


I have one response to you... The Akridas plan unless you jokers are going to deny this step by step plan for Apartied... have you read it? are you going to deny it?

Once you apologize to Oracle I’ll proceed to satisfy your next query.

I see no reason in jumping around like a rabbit on heat from one issue to the next without closure.


Why should I say sorry to someone who has not answered my questions who is unable to see the irony of her own stance... No you answer my questions if you are a true cypriot looking for justice for all cypriots. Unless you are nothing more tan a racist and fascist that has been blinded by the lies of the ROC

I’ll happily answer ALL your questions as you present them, but it’s subject to a closure at each step of the way upon the supply of credible evidence.


Ok lets do this one by one. why is the right of property ownership subject to a six month stay in the ROC by the...... ROC?

is this against human rights?

First you must either admit defeat or counter my evidence of TC self-segregation.


who says I should do this? I was having debate with Oracle and asking her why she does not answer my questions, she could not answer you decided to get involved and stated "I’ll happily answer ALL your questions as you present them" so live by your word, Ps you have not answered my questions about being a fascist, although to your credit you have already admitted you are a racist.

Ps how do you feel that being a racist contributes to the Cyprus solution?

You’re just a time wasting illiterate nincompoop so beat it!
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Postby wyoming cowboy » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:24 pm

Another Turk vanquished by the truth/..,,,,,,only 69,999,999 to go........Oracle equals onoma jai prama...
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:37 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:Apartheid is self-evident in Cyprus today because of Ankara's policies.


To know why aparthied is not an accurate term one only has to imagine sitting down with a SA who lived through aparthied in SA and talking about how his daily life was during this period and what aparthied meant to him and comparing that with the daily life of a GC today, supposedly also living under aparthied.

To say that what GC live like today as a result of Turkish action in 74 onwards is the same as or comprable to what it meant to live under the oppresion of aparthied in SA is in fact an insult to SAs.


Since Apartheid no longer exists in SA (even the white colonialist rulers evolved) the term has fallen into general usage ... But so far, it only applies to one other country, Cyprus. Apartheid was the enforced racist segregation of one group by another. This is exactly what Ankara does to Greek Cypriots in Cyprus. It has segregated us OUT of nearly half our country and prevents our return with guns. In fact, this is WORSE than SA since there was a modicum of integration there. But Ankara is far too extreme and has taken over nearly half the country and ethnically cleansed it in a race-specific way. Ultra-Apartheid?

I'm afraid this is the way forward for a solution. You have had it too easy so far and your crimes have to be recognised for what they are. Most Liberals I have spoken to, see the parallels immediately, once their minds become focused... with time, hopefully you will too!


Apartheid in South Africa is just the segregation of persons of different race, namely the whites from the blacks.

This was done to control the blacks and if you have been to South Africa you would understand why.

Apartheid still exists because whites and most blacks can not coexist in South Africa. As a white, you are only able to gather in certain white areas. And your home is a fortress!

As a white, you will only last 5 minutes if you ventured into a black area. Such violent crime does not exist in Cyprus, so you are wrong to compare South Africa to Cyprus!

And whether you accept it or not, the black mentality is vastly different to the mentality of the whites. Life has no meaning and is very cheap.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:57 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:Apartheid is self-evident in Cyprus today because of Ankara's policies.


To know why aparthied is not an accurate term one only has to imagine sitting down with a SA who lived through aparthied in SA and talking about how his daily life was during this period and what aparthied meant to him and comparing that with the daily life of a GC today, supposedly also living under aparthied.

To say that what GC live like today as a result of Turkish action in 74 onwards is the same as or comprable to what it meant to live under the oppresion of aparthied in SA is in fact an insult to SAs.


Since Apartheid no longer exists in SA (even the white colonialist rulers evolved) the term has fallen into general usage ... But so far, it only applies to one other country, Cyprus. Apartheid was the enforced racist segregation of one group by another. This is exactly what Ankara does to Greek Cypriots in Cyprus. It has segregated us OUT of nearly half our country and prevents our return with guns. In fact, this is WORSE than SA since there was a modicum of integration there. But Ankara is far too extreme and has taken over nearly half the country and ethnically cleansed it in a race-specific way. Ultra-Apartheid?

I'm afraid this is the way forward for a solution. You have had it too easy so far and your crimes have to be recognised for what they are. Most Liberals I have spoken to, see the parallels immediately, once their minds become focused... with time, hopefully you will too!


Apartheid in South Africa is just the segregation of persons of different race, namely the whites from the blacks.

This was done to control the blacks and if you have been to South Africa you would understand why.

Apartheid still exists because whites and most blacks can not coexist in South Africa. As a white, you are only able to gather in certain white areas. And your home is a fortress!

As a white, you will only last 5 minutes if you ventured into a black area. Such violent crime does not exist in Cyprus, so you are wrong to compare South Africa to Cyprus!

And whether you accept it or not, the black mentality is vastly different to the mentality of the whites. Life has no meaning and is very cheap.


What I don't understand is your persistent stupidity. It's not a matter of a point by point comparison, anyway. I'm talking about the policy of Ankara to segregate (keep APART) GCs OUT of the north, away from Turk-TCs. Why is that not Apartheid? What is so difficult for you to grasp?

Frankly, your attitude that "Blacks" are too stupid in mentality, or all "baby rapists" (from the above plus other thread on Apartheid), to be treated as equal human beings, is most disturbing.
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:49 am

Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Oracle wrote:
erolz3 wrote:
Oracle wrote:Apartheid is self-evident in Cyprus today because of Ankara's policies.


To know why aparthied is not an accurate term one only has to imagine sitting down with a SA who lived through aparthied in SA and talking about how his daily life was during this period and what aparthied meant to him and comparing that with the daily life of a GC today, supposedly also living under aparthied.

To say that what GC live like today as a result of Turkish action in 74 onwards is the same as or comprable to what it meant to live under the oppresion of aparthied in SA is in fact an insult to SAs.


Since Apartheid no longer exists in SA (even the white colonialist rulers evolved) the term has fallen into general usage ... But so far, it only applies to one other country, Cyprus. Apartheid was the enforced racist segregation of one group by another. This is exactly what Ankara does to Greek Cypriots in Cyprus. It has segregated us OUT of nearly half our country and prevents our return with guns. In fact, this is WORSE than SA since there was a modicum of integration there. But Ankara is far too extreme and has taken over nearly half the country and ethnically cleansed it in a race-specific way. Ultra-Apartheid?

I'm afraid this is the way forward for a solution. You have had it too easy so far and your crimes have to be recognised for what they are. Most Liberals I have spoken to, see the parallels immediately, once their minds become focused... with time, hopefully you will too!


Apartheid in South Africa is just the segregation of persons of different race, namely the whites from the blacks.

This was done to control the blacks and if you have been to South Africa you would understand why.

Apartheid still exists because whites and most blacks can not coexist in South Africa. As a white, you are only able to gather in certain white areas. And your home is a fortress!

As a white, you will only last 5 minutes if you ventured into a black area. Such violent crime does not exist in Cyprus, so you are wrong to compare South Africa to Cyprus!

And whether you accept it or not, the black mentality is vastly different to the mentality of the whites. Life has no meaning and is very cheap.


Oracle wrote:What I don't understand is your persistent stupidity. It's not a matter of a point by point comparison, anyway. I'm talking about the policy of Ankara to segregate (keep APART) GCs OUT of the north, away from Turk-TCs. Why is that not Apartheid? What is so difficult for you to grasp?


The Cyprus Problem is all about conquest, invasion, ethnic cleansing and occupation.

South Africa has NEVER resembled the Cyprus Problem in the slightest, and even when Apartheid was official Government policy, white and coloured South Africans can not be deemed to be ALL racist. Apartheid was a necessity then, as it is a necessity right now between the whites, coloured, black elites of the ANC and most other blacks.

Apartheid still exists in South Africa, but it is not official policy!

This is the reality of South Africa.

Oracle wrote:Frankly, your attitude that "Blacks" are too stupid in mentality, or all "baby rapists" (from the above plus other thread on Apartheid), to be treated as equal human beings, is most disturbing.


It obviously makes you feel better within yourself to turn this discussion about South Africa as a racial issue. Be very careful to note, that when I refer to blacks, I never make sweeping statements about ALL of them.

You on the other hand make stupid comments like this:

Oracle wrote:Since Apartheid no longer exists in SA (even the white colonialist rulers evolved)...


Not all white "colonialists" are racist white supremacists! Not all coloured South Africans are racist either. Most black ANC elites are not racist against most other blacks either.

Most violence in South Africa is black on black, because the whites, and the ANC elites will never dare to trespass into the wrong areas.

It's very easy to turn this into a racial issue, in a desperate attempt to come out on top. But that it just a desperate and futile argument since you don't even know what you're talking about when comparing Apartheid in South Africa to Turkey's campaign of conquest, ethnic cleansing and occupation to control the whole island!

Apartheid was a necessity then, and is still practiced but not official ANC policy to this very day, and for good reason.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country/sf- ... /cri-crime

Now, I will be in South Africa later this year to see Greece play in the World Cup.

Come along, so I can show you around the place. It will be an eye opener for you. You can even stay with my "Settler" cousins, within their expansive fortress. I wouldn't want you to be harmed in any way.

Most whites carry a concealed and unlicensed weapon in their cars!
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