Oracle wrote:Paphitis wrote:Oracle wrote:erolz3 wrote:Oracle wrote:Apartheid is self-evident in Cyprus today because of Ankara's policies.
To know why aparthied is not an accurate term one only has to imagine sitting down with a SA who lived through aparthied in SA and talking about how his daily life was during this period and what aparthied meant to him and comparing that with the daily life of a GC today, supposedly also living under aparthied.
To say that what GC live like today as a result of Turkish action in 74 onwards is the same as or comprable to what it meant to live under the oppresion of aparthied in SA is in fact an insult to SAs.
Since Apartheid no longer exists in SA (even the white colonialist rulers evolved) the term has fallen into general usage ... But so far, it only applies to
one other country, Cyprus. Apartheid was the enforced racist segregation of one group by another. This is
exactly what Ankara does to Greek Cypriots in Cyprus. It has segregated us OUT of nearly half our country and prevents our return with guns. In fact, this is WORSE than SA since there was a modicum of integration there. But Ankara is far too extreme and has taken over nearly half the country and ethnically cleansed it in a race-specific way. Ultra-Apartheid?
I'm afraid this is the way forward for a solution. You have had it too easy so far and your crimes have to be recognised for what they are. Most Liberals I have spoken to, see the parallels immediately, once their minds become focused... with time, hopefully you will too!
Apartheid in South Africa is just the segregation of persons of different race, namely the whites from the blacks.
This was done to
control the blacks and if you have been to South Africa you would understand why.
Apartheid still exists because whites and most blacks can not coexist in South Africa. As a white, you are only able to gather in certain white areas. And your home is a fortress!
As a white, you will only last 5 minutes if you ventured into a black area. Such violent crime does not exist in Cyprus, so you are wrong to compare South Africa to Cyprus!
And whether you accept it or not, the black mentality is vastly different to the mentality of the whites. Life has no meaning and is very cheap.
Oracle wrote:What I don't understand is your persistent stupidity. It's not a matter of a point by point comparison, anyway. I'm talking about the policy of Ankara to segregate (keep APART) GCs OUT of the north, away from Turk-TCs. Why is that not Apartheid? What is so difficult for you to grasp?
The Cyprus Problem is all about conquest, invasion, ethnic cleansing and occupation.
South Africa has NEVER resembled the Cyprus Problem in the slightest, and even when Apartheid was official Government policy, white and coloured South Africans can not be deemed to be ALL racist. Apartheid was a necessity then, as it is a necessity right now between the whites, coloured, black elites of the ANC and most other blacks.
Apartheid still exists in South Africa, but it is not official policy!
This is the reality of South Africa.
Oracle wrote:Frankly, your attitude that "Blacks" are too stupid in mentality, or all "baby rapists" (from the above plus other thread on Apartheid), to be treated as equal human beings, is most disturbing.
It obviously makes you feel better within yourself to turn this discussion about South Africa as a racial issue. Be very careful to note, that when I refer to blacks, I never make sweeping statements about
ALL of them.
You on the other hand make stupid comments like this:
Oracle wrote:Since Apartheid no longer exists in SA (even the white colonialist rulers evolved)...
Not all white "colonialists" are racist white supremacists! Not all coloured South Africans are racist either. Most black ANC elites are not racist against most other blacks either.
Most violence in South Africa is black on black, because the whites, and the ANC elites will never dare to trespass into the wrong areas.
It's very easy to turn this into a racial issue, in a desperate attempt to come out on top. But that it just a
desperate and futile argument since you don't even know what you're talking about when comparing Apartheid in South Africa to Turkey's campaign of conquest, ethnic cleansing and occupation to control the whole island!
Apartheid was a necessity then, and is still practiced but not official ANC policy to this very day, and for good reason.
http://www.nationmaster.com/country/sf- ... /cri-crime
Now, I will be in South Africa later this year to see Greece play in the World Cup.
Come along, so I can show you around the place. It will be an eye opener for you. You can even stay with my "Settler" cousins, within their expansive fortress. I wouldn't want you to be harmed in any way.
Most whites carry a concealed and unlicensed weapon in their cars!