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[Malapapa]

Having read some of your more recent responses to your thread here, I am left wondering exactly what point you are trying to make?

I updated this thread on the issue of the FSA and HSBC, and then answered questions as they were put to me. What point are you trying to make, with your link to UN resolutions in relation to Israel. Are you Palestinian? Or are you just being fatuous?

We all know that, despite the 'embargoes', companies are starting up and operating in the TRNC. I should have thought that, next to property development, tourism is one of the biggest earners there.

Are all those companies REALLY 'winging it' and risking expensive legal action being taken against them? Or do they know something you don't (or refuse to accept)?

They have been allowed to get away with it. As the Orams were allowed to get away with living on someone else's land in the north, until a concerned citizen, with the help of a lawyer, decided to do something about it. And it took him years. In my own small way, I'm following his monumental example. Who are you to question this?

I'd have thought it was only RoC that could make a good case for complaining - they are the ones who insisted on the embargoes - and they don't seem to be doing that do they?

Perhaps, politically, they choose not to at this stage, as you've already speculated. Though this policy could and should change soon. Or else, as I've speculated, they're simply lazy and incompetent. This would certainly be true for representatives at the Cypriot High Commission here in the UK, in my experience.

You've said yourself that they cannot even be bothered to respond to their 'concerned citizens' regarding the matter.

Politicians and government officials have been proven to be as useless and self-serving, as the banks are greedy and corrupt. So what's new?

[IMPOSTALIEDUS]

Having read some of your more recent responses to your thread here, I am left wondering exactly what point you are trying to make?

I updated this thread on the issue of the FSA and HSBC, and then answered questions as they were put to me. What point are you trying to make, with your link to UN resolutions in relation to Israel. Are you Palestinian? Or are you just being fatuous?

We all know that, despite the 'embargoes', companies are starting up and operating in the TRNC. I should have thought that, next to property development, tourism is one of the biggest earners there.

Are all those companies REALLY 'winging it' and risking expensive legal action being taken against them? Or do they know something you don't (or refuse to accept)?

They have been allowed to get away with it. As the Orams were allowed to get away with living on someone else's land in the north, until a concerned citizen, with the help of a lawyer, decided to do something about it. And it took him years. In my own small way, I'm following his monumental example. Who are you to question this?

I'd have thought it was only RoC that could make a good case for complaining - they are the ones who insisted on the embargoes - and they don't seem to be doing that do they?

Perhaps, politically, they choose not to at this stage, as you've already speculated. Though this policy could and should change soon. Or else, as I've speculated, they're simply lazy and incompetent. This would certainly be true for representatives at the Cypriot High Commission here in the UK, in my experience.

You've said yourself that they cannot even be bothered to respond to their 'concerned citizens' regarding the matter.

Politicians and government officials have been proven to be as useless and self-serving, as the banks are greedy and corrupt. So what's new?

so you are now finally getting it, your attempt to close a branch of one of the biggest banks in the world is going to fall on deaf ears ,,i think thats the end of a good thread dont you

[Gasman]

so you are now finally getting it, your attempt to close a branch of one of the biggest banks in the world is going to fall on deaf ears ,,i think thats the end of a good thread dont you

Agree.

The very notion of an individual like Malapapas managing to close down some operations of the HUGE multinational Hong Kong & Shanghai Banking Corporation is just too fanciful.

[Malapapa]

so you are now finally getting it,

I'm under no illusions. I wasn't previously.

your attempt to close a branch of one of the biggest banks in the world is going to fall on deaf ears ,,

You seem to be taking a great deal of interest in an attempt that is going to 'fall on deaf ears'. Are you the branch manager?

i think thats the end of a good thread dont you

I've nothing further to add, at this time.

[Malapapa]

so you are now finally getting it, your attempt to close a branch of one of the biggest banks in the world is going to fall on deaf ears ,,i think thats the end of a good thread dont you

Agree.

The very notion of an individual like Malapapas managing to close down some operations of the HUGE multinational Hong Kong & Shanghai Banking Corporation is just too fanciful.

You've no idea who I am, to make that judgement.

[DTA]

so you are now finally getting it, your attempt to close a branch of one of the biggest banks in the world is going to fall on deaf ears ,,i think thats the end of a good thread dont you

Agree.

The very notion of an individual like Malapapas managing to close down some operations of the HUGE multinational Hong Kong & Shanghai Banking Corporation is just too fanciful.

You've no idea who I am, to make that judgement.

Who are you Mal?

[Gasman]

You've no idea who I am, to make that judgement.

True. But presumably, neither does the Cyprus Govt, the Cyprus High Commission, the FSA etc. - as you say yourself, they have either not bothered to respond to you at all or given responses which do not address your concerns.

[BOF]

dear God is this thing still dragging on?
The article has no bearing to the individual tilting at windmills but the highlighted areas might just give them an alternative idea??
But from me the thread now has the DILLIGAF seal of approval

'Change tactics to gain allies in Europe’


MEMBERS OF the European Parliament (EP) will decide today whether to send the contentious regulation on direct trade to its Legal Services for further examination.
If it does so, and the EP lawyers agree with the European Council Legal Service that the legal basis of the regulation is wrong, then the proposal will become an internal trade matter, giving the Republic of Cyprus a veto.
If not, then the regulation proposal will continue to be pushed and pulled through the corridors of institutional power in Brussels with first the EP voting on it and then the Council based on a qualified majority vote.
The coordinators of the EP’s International Trade Committee will meet this afternoon to discuss the European Commission’s proposal for direct trade with the occupied north, where the issue of its legal basis is expected to come up.
DIKO Member of the EP (MEP), Antigoni Papadopoulou yesterday described promotion of the direct trade regulation as a “very negative development” based on the wrong legal basis.
She called on the government to improve coordination among the relevant ministries, national parliament, MEPs and permanent representation in Brussels. The DIKO MEP also warned that tactics had to change if Greek Cypriots were to gain allies in Europe.
Papadopoulou said up till now Europeans have watched events unfold with apathy, noting that when Cypriot MEPs pose important questions on “illegal migration, illegal settlers, the presence of the Turkish Cypriot flag on Pendadaktylos, the issue of missing persons, refugees and the looting of cultural heritage, we get a single stereotypical answer which does not satisfy us”.
The Cypriot MEP warned that lobbying for Cyprus would not work unless Cypriot MEPs and the local press focused on other things than the Cyprus problem.
“If you don’t get deep into their affairs, the Europeans, if you don’t write reports, submit amendments (in the EP), if the Europeans don’t feel you are one of them, you won’t win on the Cyprus problem,” she said.
Papadopoulou highlighted that what gets written in Cyprus about Brussels or Strabourg gets noticed, calling on the media to show more interest in wider European issues.
“Allow me to say, articles by MEPs are monitored and if we talk only about the Cyprus problem, we are out of the game in the EU.
“If we spit on them from morning till night, when we need them to listen to us...they won’t,” she added.
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[BOF]

[Gasman]

Thanks for that interesting article. I said earlier to Mala that it would seem inappropriate for the RoC to be professing to want a solution and for the island to be 'reunified' in any meaningful way, whilst at the same time working overtime to 'punish' the TCs they are professing to want to live together with.