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Postby B25 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:48 am

Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Mala what a slap in the Face not exactly the result you expected the word legitimate must have stuck in your throat. They even referred to the trnc central bank as being the regulating body man what a result.


You've no idea how useless the UK FCA is, allowing some junior on the customer advice desk to score such a monumental own goal - and on FSA letterhead paper, too!


MP, I wonder if any of the liturature of the trashcan HSBC makes ref to being regulater by the FSA??? This would be another avenue.

So, what the FSA are saying a regulated bank in the west can operate an ilegitimate business in an illigegal state and still be considered to be 'OK' perhaps one of the tabloids would be better placed to followup on such a scandel.

I would like to hear the opinion of Mr Cadunas on this matter.
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Postby Gasman » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:51 am

The Craig Doyle's Travel Tips slot on ITV's 'This Morning' Television show recommending a stay in one of the GC owned holiday complexes was not pre the Orams case. It was a couple of weeks ago.

I emailed them pointing out that Riverside Holiday Village, Kyrenia is in the Turkish occupied North of Cyprus (not mentioned). And that it is one of the GC owned hotels on the list of hotels illegally operated in the occupied territory.

I have had the 'we have forwarded this to the correct dept' robotic response. Nothing further though. I will let you know if I get a proper response.

ITV isn't exactly a small tinpot company.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:06 am

A big slap in the face me thinks...poor mala he is still reeling from the shock.
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Postby Malapapa » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:07 am

Gasman wrote:The Craig Doyle's Travel Tips slot on ITV's 'This Morning' Television show recommending a stay in one of the GC owned holiday complexes was not pre the Orams case. It was a couple of weeks ago.

I emailed them pointing out that Riverside Holiday Village, Kyrenia is in the Turkish occupied North of Cyprus (not mentioned). And that it is one of the GC owned hotels on the list of hotels illegally operated in the occupied territory.

I have had the 'we have forwarded this to the correct dept' robotic response. Nothing further though. I will let you know if I get a proper response.

ITV isn't exactly a small tinpot company.


Well done for pointing it out.
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Postby Malapapa » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:15 am

B25 wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Mala what a slap in the Face not exactly the result you expected the word legitimate must have stuck in your throat. They even referred to the trnc central bank as being the regulating body man what a result.


You've no idea how useless the UK FCA is, allowing some junior on the customer advice desk to score such a monumental own goal - and on FSA letterhead paper, too!


MP, I wonder if any of the liturature of the trashcan HSBC makes ref to being regulater by the FSA??? This would be another avenue.


In actual fact, HSBC in the north, the Orams ruling makes clear, is regulated by the Central Bank of Cyprus which should, if it had any balls, now act to close down HSBC operations there.

HSBC, by virtue of having operations in the UK, is also regulated in the UK, and anywhere else in the world, where it trades.

B25 wrote:So, what the FSA are saying a regulated bank in the west can operate an ilegitimate business in an illigegal state and still be considered to be 'OK' perhaps one of the tabloids would be better placed to followup on such a scandel.

I would like to hear the opinion of Mr Cadunas on this matter.


B25... feel free to pursue whatever avenue you see fit. I think this could be major. No one likes banks at the moment.
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Postby Gasman » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:18 am

Well as Candounas has specifically stated that next on the hit list will be people who stayed in GC owned hotels, I thought it was a bit irresponsible for a national TV corporation to be recommending people to do just that.

Here is what I emailed them:

Craig Doyle's Travel Tips this week featured Riverside Holiday Village, Kyrenia.

This holiday village is in the Turkish occupied North of Cyprus (not mentioned).

And is one of the hotels on the LIST OF HOTELS ILLEGALLY OPERATED IN THE OCCUPIED AREA OF CYPRUS

http://www.cyprusembassy.net/home/index ... ges&cid=45

In view of the recent ECJ judgement against the Orams for trespass on GC land, this seems rather imprudent to say the least.
Especially as Mr Candounas, the lawyer for the winning side has categorically stated that he has now been instructed to pursue British and other foreigners who stay in these hotels for trespass starting with the Dome Hotel in Kyrenia.

Sincerely
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Their only response so far:

Thank you for contacting This Morning.

As you can imagine, we receive hundreds of emails each day, we are always interested in hearing your comments, views and reading your stories.

It is very important to us to hear from our viewers but unfortunately, we are unable to respond personally to every email. All emails are read and forwarded to the relevant departments.

Thank you for your interest in our show.

Regards

Viewers Enquiries


I am very interested to hear what they have to say so I do hope they respond further.
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Postby Gasman » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:20 am

Oh it's too bleedin' late to go look it up now (and a sci fi movie just starting lol!) but - I am sure I read that Bank of Cyprus DID remonstrate re the HSBC in the TRNC. But got nowhere?

You've probably already seen this but, there is lots of bumph here on the Turkish Cypriot Chamber of Commerce website about starting a Bank in the TRNC.

http://www.ktto.net/english/trnc.html
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Postby Malapapa » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:21 am

Viewpoint wrote:A big slap in the face me thinks...poor mala he is still reeling from the shock.


Do you think I made this public, simply for the likes of you to gloat over?
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Postby Malapapa » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:24 am

Gasman wrote:Well as Candounas has specifically stated that next on the hit list will be people who stayed in GC owned hotels, I thought it was a bit irresponsible for a national TV corporation to be recommending people to do just that.

Here is what I emailed them:

Craig Doyle's Travel Tips this week featured Riverside Holiday Village, Kyrenia.

This holiday village is in the Turkish occupied North of Cyprus (not mentioned).

And is one of the hotels on the LIST OF HOTELS ILLEGALLY OPERATED IN THE OCCUPIED AREA OF CYPRUS

http://www.cyprusembassy.net/home/index ... ges&cid=45

In view of the recent ECJ judgement against the Orams for trespass on GC land, this seems rather imprudent to say the least.
Especially as Mr Candounas, the lawyer for the winning side has categorically stated that he has now been instructed to pursue British and other foreigners who stay in these hotels for trespass starting with the Dome Hotel in Kyrenia.

Sincerely
xxxx
(the gasman cometh!)


Their only response so far:

Thank you for contacting This Morning.

As you can imagine, we receive hundreds of emails each day, we are always interested in hearing your comments, views and reading your stories.

It is very important to us to hear from our viewers but unfortunately, we are unable to respond personally to every email. All emails are read and forwarded to the relevant departments.

Thank you for your interest in our show.

Regards

Viewers Enquiries


I am very interested to hear what they have to say so I do hope they respond further.


You'd be better of writing to ITV's viewer complaints as they'll be obligated to investigate and respond.
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Postby Gasman » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:24 am

Do you think I made this public, simply for the likes of you to gloat over?


I know you are not asking the question of me but - no, I don't think you made it public for that reason.

I think you are genuinely interested to hear what they have to say and how they justify the current set up.

Bit daft to view it as a slap in the face - if it was all to do with Malapapa's EGO he wouldn't have posted their response at all would he?
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