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[Get Real!]

Deniz, by my standards this “Thomas Blom Hansen” is not credible evidence so I would never use any of his material against the TMT, and by the same token I wouldn’t think much of any of his EOKA allegations.

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle01.htm

George makes his thread even less appealing by failing to quote the sections he wants to highlight and that's the main reason why it's not going anywhere. Asking readers to just read many pages of text never leads to a meaningful discussion evidenced by the lack of responses.

Out of interest why do you not you not think he is credible (I say this without even reading his text) just interested to know what your criteria is?

This small article should explain why...

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle29.htm

Ok so its just basically the UN amongst a few others that you claim is a credible source of evidence - So the UN say there were 200 rapes in 1974 would this be a number that you would agree with? because As a TC I recognise that this number is most probably not the complete picture.

By the way I think that even one Rape is too much, so I am in no way trying to justify anything, just trying to see where you are going with this.

Let me put it this way… if organizations like the UN and the Red Cross which specialize and were ASSIGNED the job of conducting country-wide investigations of a wide variety, cannot extract the most accurate statistics then I don’t know who can…

So you would agree that 200 rapes was the correct number?

I did come across a figure for that but I can’t remember it today.

There is a very good (detailed) report called “Consequences of the Turkish invasion on Cyprus” or something like that conducted by the US Senate, which gave statistics for pretty much everything including Turkish casualties etc, but unfortunately it seems to have disappeared from the Internet.

But the UN figure is 200 so based on the criteria on your own website would you agree with this?

Lete's have a look at it... (the link)

Ok, IF I get you the link will you admit without reservations that this is the correct figure?

I would need to study the link first.

[DTA]

Deniz, by my standards this “Thomas Blom Hansen” is not credible evidence so I would never use any of his material against the TMT, and by the same token I wouldn’t think much of any of his EOKA allegations.

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle01.htm

George makes his thread even less appealing by failing to quote the sections he wants to highlight and that's the main reason why it's not going anywhere. Asking readers to just read many pages of text never leads to a meaningful discussion evidenced by the lack of responses.

Out of interest why do you not you not think he is credible (I say this without even reading his text) just interested to know what your criteria is?

This small article should explain why...

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle29.htm

Ok so its just basically the UN amongst a few others that you claim is a credible source of evidence - So the UN say there were 200 rapes in 1974 would this be a number that you would agree with? because As a TC I recognise that this number is most probably not the complete picture.

By the way I think that even one Rape is too much, so I am in no way trying to justify anything, just trying to see where you are going with this.

Let me put it this way… if organizations like the UN and the Red Cross which specialize and were ASSIGNED the job of conducting country-wide investigations of a wide variety, cannot extract the most accurate statistics then I don’t know who can…

So you would agree that 200 rapes was the correct number?

I did come across a figure for that but I can’t remember it today.

There is a very good (detailed) report called “Consequences of the Turkish invasion on Cyprus” or something like that conducted by the US Senate, which gave statistics for pretty much everything including Turkish casualties etc, but unfortunately it seems to have disappeared from the Internet.

But the UN figure is 200 so based on the criteria on your own website would you agree with this?

Lete's have a look at it... (the link)

Ok, IF I get you the link will you admit without reservations that this is the correct figure?

I would need to study the link first.

If I get you a UN link (acceptable as stated within your own website) will you say that 200 is the correct figure?

[Get Real!]

If I get you a UN link (acceptable as stated within your own website) will you say that 200 is the correct figure?

We’re just going to have to wait to find out…

[DTA]

If I get you a UN link (acceptable as stated within your own website) will you say that 200 is the correct figure?

We’re just going to have to wait to find out…

By your own websites rules, I am asking you to stand firm, will you do it?

PS you you have not answered my questions about being a fascist?

but you admit being a racist, at least you are honest.

[Get Real!]

If I get you a UN link (acceptable as stated within your own website) will you say that 200 is the correct figure?

We’re just going to have to wait to find out…

By your own websites rules, I am asking you to stand firm, will you do it?

PS you you have not answered my questions about being a fascist?

but you admit being a racist, at least you are honest.

You don’t have a link to supply and are thus wasting my time.

The UN and similar authorized organizations are certainly not infallible but they’re the best we’ve got so by cross-referencing information from two or more credible sources (where possible) we can get a fair account of an event.

[DTA]

If I get you a UN link (acceptable as stated within your own website) will you say that 200 is the correct figure?

We’re just going to have to wait to find out…

By your own websites rules, I am asking you to stand firm, will you do it?

PS you you have not answered my questions about being a fascist?

but you admit being a racist, at least you are honest.

You don’t have a link to supply and are thus wasting my time.

The UN and similar authorized organizations are certainly not infallible but they’re the best we’ve got so by cross-referencing information from two or more credible sources (where possible) we can get a fair account of an event.

Im am using the criteria of your own website, if you dont believe that I have a link ( you may be right about this) all you have to do is admit that If I provide the link then you will admit that the figure of 200 is accurate and stand firm to this for all your time on the forum... just say the word and then it will be on me to provide the link.

[denizaksulu]

Wow, is the prototypical Chiroikitan on a back pedal?......to be continued, to be sure.

[B25]

DTA, if you had any such link of substance you would have posted, if only to gloat in his face. I think you are calling his bluff.

If you have any link, lets see it ans stop with the hide and seek with GR.

Thanks

[denizaksulu]

DTA, if you had any such link of substance you would have posted, if only to gloat in his face. I think you are calling his bluff.

If you have any link, lets see it ans stop with the hide and seek with GR.

Thanks

The point in question here, is not whether DTA has 'a link', but whether GRs UN as a source of credible evidence is in fact accurate.

GR has met a worthy adversary here who challenges GRs 'credible evidence'. Lets not be hasty and lets see where the two corners are going with this.

FYI, I do not doubt tha the above mentioned atrocities did take place and I condemn it all.

[Get Real!]

GR has met a worthy adversary here who challenges GRs 'credible evidence'.

You might want to ask your "worthy adversary" what the alternative is to the credible sources I use and pray that he isn't thinking of Gaddafi, Denktash, and Bozo the clown!