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[Malapapa]

What has the Turkish Cypriot contribution been so far VP?

And if you think that we haven’t been contributing enough millions to the EU then perhaps the TCs can quit bludging in the RoC so we can pay some more!

do what you want the eu it is your concern they have your arse not ours, you ask what we provide as tcs our numbers and your valse claim to represent gives you the sole rights to reep all the benefits from the recognition you stole.

Then stop going on about isolation/embargoes and trade with the country that has your arse... not ours.

[Viewpoint]

What has the Turkish Cypriot contribution been so far VP?

And if you think that we haven’t been contributing enough millions to the EU then perhaps the TCs can quit bludging in the RoC so we can pay some more!

do what you want the eu it is your concern they have your arse not ours, you ask what we provide as tcs our numbers and your valse claim to represent gives you the sole rights to reep all the benefits from the recognition you stole.

Then stop going on about isolation/embargoes and trade with the country

that has your arse... not ours.

Tell that to the eu they acknowledge our isolation and wish to take steps to remove the inhumane stance of the gcs which does not bode well with eu ethics and principles.İ

[Malapapa]

What has the Turkish Cypriot contribution been so far VP?

And if you think that we haven’t been contributing enough millions to the EU then perhaps the TCs can quit bludging in the RoC so we can pay some more!

do what you want the eu it is your concern they have your arse not ours, you ask what we provide as tcs our numbers and your valse claim to represent gives you the sole rights to reep all the benefits from the recognition you stole.

Then stop going on about isolation/embargoes and trade with the country

that has your arse... not ours.

Tell that to the eu they acknowledge our isolation and wish to take steps to remove the inhumane stance of the gcs which does not bode well with eu ethics and principles.İ

The EU is our concern. And you'd better stop believing your useless politicians and realise it is not the RoC's stance alone. Ethics and principles are what prevents trade with the "TRNC".

[erolz3]

Ethics and principles are what prevents trade with the "TRNC".

This really is not the case Malapapa.

The direct trade proposals are still 'under consideration'

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/cytr/2/cy ... u24251.htm

note the last updated note for this document 27/05/2009

On 7 July 2004, therefore, the European Commission proposed a package of development aid and trade measures, the most significant being a draft regulation establishing a legal instrument to encourage the economic development of the Turkish Cypriot community[5] (aid regulation) and a draft regulation on special conditions for trade with those areas of the Republic of Cyprus in which the Government of the Republic of Cyprus does not exercise effective control[6] (direct trade draft regulation). The aid draft regulation, with a financial allocation amounting € 259 Mio has been adopted by the Council on 27 February 2006, while the direct trade draft regulation is still under consideration.

So nearly 2 years after the policy somittments were made, aid part of the proposals was implemented. 6 years later and the trade proposals are 'still under consideration'. No mention that the trade proposals are abandoned because they are unethical or against Eu principles.

Here is another link for you, from the BBC so probably a bit too 'bias' for you liking.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/mobile/europe/2839603.stm

The EU agreed in 2004 to end the isolation of the Turkish Cypriot community, and to encourage its economic development. Soon afterwards, the European Commission put forward draft regulations on opening Turkish Cypriot ports and airports to direct trade, and providing 250m euros (£168m) of aid.

Some aid is now on the way to the north of the island, but the Cypriot government has so far blocked the regulation on direct trade, arguing that this would be tantamount to recognising the self-declared Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

[Oracle]

Some intellectual Classicist was on Radio 4 today rationalising all those pathetics who dance on "Athens'" tomb again. Thousands of years and not much has changed. The envy of the world is still Greece and hence this exaggerated reaction which saw the likes of Iceland and GB and many others pass though unscathed.

Keep criticising Greece ... your envy unfolds!

[erolz3]

Some intellectual Classicist was on Radio 4 today rationalising all those pathetics who dance on "Athens'" tomb again. Thousands of years and not much has changed. The envy of the world is still Greece and hence this exaggerated reaction which saw the likes of Iceland and GB and many others pass though unscathed.

Keep criticising Greece ... your envy unfolds!

Once more you show your inability to see things outside of racial terms and the worlds persecution of Greeks.

The reason why Greece is recieving more attention than other nations in the Eurozone (which GB is not btw) is that whilst they also have severe problems Greece remains the most severe and the closest to defaulting on debt repayments AND more than any other member of the Eurozone the accuracy of its historic accounting and reporting of the scale of its problems are the weakest.

Yet the very real and material reasons why Greece is getting more attention than others are to you irrelevant for they do not conatin the racial element. You with your racial world view know the real reason and that is the world hates the Greeks through envy of wanting to be Greek and yet not being so.

[repulsewarrior]

...turkey would do well to support Greece with her need. cynically speaking, the more she gets, the more turkey will get when in a time of need, someday within the EU. good neighbours help each other, in the greater scheme of things, this benefits all the members. greece does not deserve to be "kicked out", and if she was, it would spell for the rest of the EU membership, an end.

[Get Real!]

Here is another link for you, from the BBC so probably a bit too 'bias' for you liking.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/mobile/europe/2839603.stm

Some aid is now on the way to the north of the island, but the Cypriot government has so far blocked the regulation on direct trade, arguing that this would be tantamount to recognising the self-declared Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

And given that the RoC is the EU we'd have to conclude that the EU does NOT approve direct trade!

And not to mention that it would be IMPOSSIBLE to implement without violating decades old World Trade Organization and other UN rules…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle16.htm

[erolz3]

And given that the RoC is the EU we'd have to conclude that the EU does NOT approve direct trade!

That it has not implemented direct trade in the face of RoC opposition is not the same thing as saying it does not approve of it as an entity larger than just the RoC. If it did not approve of direct trade it would say so and not still be claiming to be considering how to implement it.

And not to mention that it would be IMPOSSIBLE to implement without violating decades old World Trade Organization and other UN rules…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle16.htm

With respect you analysis is woeful in regards to the WTO. As far as the EU is concerned the North is a de jure part of the RoC and a part of the EU. Direct trade between the north and other EU states would require no new staus being granted to the North by the WTO in addition to those that already exist by it being de jure a part of the RoC and the EU.

Just to highlight how ridiculous the notion is that that no trade can occur between the TRNC and the rest of the EU or world unless the North gains sperate membership of the WTO, let us not forget that the embargoes on trade with the north to EU members states is purely in relation to EXPORTS from the North to EU members. There are NO embargoes on EU members EXPORTING TO the north of Cyprus and many companies within these states do export to the north, and totaly without the north having any sperate status at the WTO.

By the way Taiwan is a member of the WTO

[Murataga]

And given that the RoC is the EU we'd have to conclude that the EU does NOT approve direct trade!

That it has not implemented direct trade in the face of RoC opposition is not the same thing as saying it does not approve of it as an entity larger than just the RoC. If it did not approve of direct trade it would say so and not still be claiming to be considering how to implement it.

And not to mention that it would be IMPOSSIBLE to implement without violating decades old World Trade Organization and other UN rules…

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle16.htm

With respect you analysis is woeful in regards to the WTO. As far as the EU is concerned the North is a de jure part of the RoC and a part of the EU. Direct trade between the north and other EU states would require no new staus being granted to the North by the WTO in addition to those that already exist by it being de jure a part of the RoC and the EU.

Just to highlight how ridiculous the notion is that that no trade can occur between the TRNC and the rest of the EU or world unless the North gains sperate membership of the WTO, let us not forget that the embargoes on trade with the north to EU members states is purely in relation to EXPORTS from the North to EU members. There are NO embargoes on EU members EXPORTING TO the north of Cyprus and many companies within these states do export to the north, and totaly without the north having any sperate status at the WTO.

By the way Taiwan is a member of the WTO

erolz3 - You are a rare breed. Too bad we do not have more of your kind.

Always a pleasure reading what you have to say.