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[DT.]

GR what has anything that you are talking about have to do with foreign policy of south Cyprus towards achieving a solution, basically all you are saying is we employ cheap labour.
Stefi is just helping lead things further down a more problematic path rather than facilitating cooperation and solution.

The word “solution” means different things to different people. For example, to me it means…

1. The 100% return of occupied territory and departure of all Turkish forces.

2. The extension of RoC authority to all four corners of Cyprus.

3. The removal of all settlers from the occupied territory.

4. Turkey pays financial restitution and cedes territory to the RoC in S.Turkey for crimes committed against Cypriots in 1974.

5. Turkey surrenders all former military leaders still living, who participated in the 1974 invasion and occupation to be tried in Europe for war crimes.

So basically, these would be my red lines if I were on the negotiating table.

Why the hell would we want to do all that, whats the incentive?

Number four is a Turkish Cypriot state like you’ve always wanted!

Never gonna happen.

Cooperate with us and we’ll give you Antalya and all surrounding suburbs!

Have faith in GC persistence and manipulation!

I thought we finished that bottle!

[Acikgoz]

The Turkish army did not ethnically cleanse the North, remember GCs were allowed to stay in the north but your leaders chose to sign a population exchange.
They cleansed the North as much as the Greek and Greek Cypriots cleansed the Turkish villagers between 1963 and 74.
Get facts right - slander and lies don't excuse your signed docs.

[DT.]

The Turkish army did not ethnically cleanse the North, remember GCs were allowed to stay in the north but your leaders chose to sign a population exchange.
They cleansed the North as much as the Greek and Greek Cypriots cleansed the Turkish villagers between 1963 and 74.
Get facts right - slander and lies don't excuse your signed docs.

I have 16 eye witnesses from sister/mother/father/grandmother...etc who were given 1 hr to leave their home in Morphou you lying dipstick.

BTW, The population agreement was signed in 75 so who threw the GC's out in 74? And it wasn't a population exchange agreement it was the 3rd Vienna Agreement which had some humanitarian clauses mainly to re-unite TC families that had been split up.

[Viewpoint]

The Turkish army did not ethnically cleanse the North, remember GCs were allowed to stay in the north but your leaders chose to sign a population exchange.
They cleansed the North as much as the Greek and Greek Cypriots cleansed the Turkish villagers between 1963 and 74.
Get facts right - slander and lies don't excuse your signed docs.

I have 16 eye witnesses from sister/mother/father/grandmother...etc who were given 1 hr to leave their home in Morphou you lying dipstick.

BTW, The population agreement was signed in 75 so who threw the GC's out in 74? And it wasn't a population exchange agreement it was the 3rd Vienna Agreement which had some humanitarian clauses mainly to re-unite TC families that had been split up.

They could have stayed, your eoka terrorists scared them into leaving just like "TMT did in the 1960s" remember your claims, the same happen to you people you were duped into thinking you were in danger.

[DT.]

The Turkish army did not ethnically cleanse the North, remember GCs were allowed to stay in the north but your leaders chose to sign a population exchange.
They cleansed the North as much as the Greek and Greek Cypriots cleansed the Turkish villagers between 1963 and 74.
Get facts right - slander and lies don't excuse your signed docs.

I have 16 eye witnesses from sister/mother/father/grandmother...etc who were given 1 hr to leave their home in Morphou you lying dipstick.

BTW, The population agreement was signed in 75 so who threw the GC's out in 74? And it wasn't a population exchange agreement it was the 3rd Vienna Agreement which had some humanitarian clauses mainly to re-unite TC families that had been split up.

They could have stayed, your eoka terrorists scared them into leaving just like "TMT did in the 1960s" remember your claims, the same happen to you people you were duped into thinking you were in danger.

I see, you're trying to provide payback. Too bad the whole world saw 1/3 of the population of this island being forced out by Turkish soldiers.

[vaughanwilliams]

Well Setfi you self-righteous prick what have you done! Jack shit that's what. Only the continuation of the oppression of Turkish Cypriots and the objection to all the promises made by the EU to Turkish Cypriots in 2004.

Before you open your stupid mouth, you should find out how many of your non-tax paying gypsies are getting jobs, free medicare, social security, unemployment benefit, child allowance, and many other benefits.

Are you saying that TCs work in RoC and don't pay NI Stamp and PAYE?

Around 10-12k who work here do, but the remaining 50-60k who don't pay fuck-all!

Who are these 50-60k?

All up the "TC" population in the occupied territory is 65-75K odd.

TCs should be able to get jobs in RoC and pay their taxes, - it's their RoC as much as yours, isn't it?
As for free medical care - if it's available free to all Cypriots, tax payers or not (just like the UK NHS) aren't TCs Cypriots?
If social security, dole, child allowance , etc., are free to all Cypriots, aren't TCs Cypriots too?
You insist that there is only one Cyprus with one government, yet you sound like you don't want to include TCs in your RoC.

[Get Real!]

Well Setfi you self-righteous prick what have you done! Jack shit that's what. Only the continuation of the oppression of Turkish Cypriots and the objection to all the promises made by the EU to Turkish Cypriots in 2004.

Before you open your stupid mouth, you should find out how many of your non-tax paying gypsies are getting jobs, free medicare, social security, unemployment benefit, child allowance, and many other benefits.

Are you saying that TCs work in RoC and don't pay NI Stamp and PAYE?

Around 10-12k who work here do, but the remaining 50-60k who don't pay fuck-all!

Who are these 50-60k?

All up the "TC" population in the occupied territory is 65-75K odd.

TCs should be able to get jobs in RoC and pay their taxes, - it's their RoC as much as yours, isn't it?
As for free medical care - if it's available free to all Cypriots, tax payers or not (just like the UK NHS) aren't TCs Cypriots?

I don’t think we can handle any more at the moment unless they stop importing foreign workers.

If social security, dole, child allowance , etc., are free to all Cypriots, aren't TCs Cypriots too?
You insist that there is only one Cyprus with one government, yet you sound like you don't want to include TCs in your RoC.

I only respect tax paying citizens and have no respect for bludgers. If you’re not contributing then you should not come here and request anything.

[vaughanwilliams]

Well Setfi you self-righteous prick what have you done! Jack shit that's what. Only the continuation of the oppression of Turkish Cypriots and the objection to all the promises made by the EU to Turkish Cypriots in 2004.

Before you open your stupid mouth, you should find out how many of your non-tax paying gypsies are getting jobs, free medicare, social security, unemployment benefit, child allowance, and many other benefits.

Are you saying that TCs work in RoC and don't pay NI Stamp and PAYE?

Around 10-12k who work here do, but the remaining 50-60k who don't pay fuck-all!

Who are these 50-60k?

All up the "TC" population in the occupied territory is 65-75K odd.

TCs should be able to get jobs in RoC and pay their taxes, - it's their RoC as much as yours, isn't it?
As for free medical care - if it's available free to all Cypriots, tax payers or not (just like the UK NHS) aren't TCs Cypriots?

I don’t think we can handle any more at the moment unless they stop importing foreign workers.

If social security, dole, child allowance , etc., are free to all Cypriots, aren't TCs Cypriots too?
You insist that there is only one Cyprus with one government, yet you sound like you don't want to include TCs in your RoC.

I only respect tax paying citizens and have no respect for bludgers. If you’re not contributing then you should not come here and request anything.

GR,

The situation you are decribing is well known in the UK. Many people there have never paid a penny of tax but claim all the benefits they are entitled to. TCs fall into this category by default and it is the entitlement that you should object to not the TCs benefitting from it. It is their RoC as much as yours and they are only following the rules. If you don't like the rules, get them changed, but dont blame the TCs. I often read posts decrying TCs for applying for RoC passports, but it is the passport of their RoC as much as it is yours.
The RoC belongs to all Cypriots, doesn't it?

[miltiades]

Well Setfi you self-righteous prick what have you done! Jack shit that's what. Only the continuation of the oppression of Turkish Cypriots and the objection to all the promises made by the EU to Turkish Cypriots in 2004.

Before you open your stupid mouth, you should find out how many of your non-tax paying gypsies are getting jobs, free medicare, social security, unemployment benefit, child allowance, and many other benefits.

Are you saying that TCs work in RoC and don't pay NI Stamp and PAYE?

Around 10-12k who work here do, but the remaining 50-60k who don't pay fuck-all!

Who are these 50-60k?

All up the "TC" population in the occupied territory is 65-75K odd.

TCs should be able to get jobs in RoC and pay their taxes, - it's their RoC as much as yours, isn't it?
As for free medical care - if it's available free to all Cypriots, tax payers or not (just like the UK NHS) aren't TCs Cypriots?

I don’t think we can handle any more at the moment unless they stop importing foreign workers.

If social security, dole, child allowance , etc., are free to all Cypriots, aren't TCs Cypriots too?
You insist that there is only one Cyprus with one government, yet you sound like you don't want to include TCs in your RoC.

I only respect tax paying citizens and have no respect for bludgers. If you’re not contributing then you should not come here and request anything.

GR,

The situation you are decribing is well known in the UK. Many people there have never paid a penny of tax but claim all the benefits they are entitled to. TCs fall into this category by default and it is the entitlement that you should object to not the TCs benefitting from it. It is their RoC as much as yours and they are only following the rules. If you don't like the rules, get them changed, but dont blame the TCs. I often read posts decrying TCs for applying for RoC passports, but it is the passport of their RoC as much as it is yours.
The RoC belongs to all Cypriots, doesn't it?

Of course the RoC , WITHOUT INVERTED COMMAS , is the government of all Cypriots. I have always believed that much much more should be done to embrace the T/Cs , it is their country just as much as it is ours.
As far as Im concerned any Cypriot who swears allegiance to Cyprus and considers Cyprus as the homeland is part of the majority.
The minorities are those Cypriots whose motherlands are foreign countries !!

[Get Real!]

Well Setfi you self-righteous prick what have you done! Jack shit that's what. Only the continuation of the oppression of Turkish Cypriots and the objection to all the promises made by the EU to Turkish Cypriots in 2004.

Before you open your stupid mouth, you should find out how many of your non-tax paying gypsies are getting jobs, free medicare, social security, unemployment benefit, child allowance, and many other benefits.

Are you saying that TCs work in RoC and don't pay NI Stamp and PAYE?

Around 10-12k who work here do, but the remaining 50-60k who don't pay fuck-all!

Who are these 50-60k?

All up the "TC" population in the occupied territory is 65-75K odd.

TCs should be able to get jobs in RoC and pay their taxes, - it's their RoC as much as yours, isn't it?
As for free medical care - if it's available free to all Cypriots, tax payers or not (just like the UK NHS) aren't TCs Cypriots?

I don’t think we can handle any more at the moment unless they stop importing foreign workers.

If social security, dole, child allowance , etc., are free to all Cypriots, aren't TCs Cypriots too?
You insist that there is only one Cyprus with one government, yet you sound like you don't want to include TCs in your RoC.

I only respect tax paying citizens and have no respect for bludgers. If you’re not contributing then you should not come here and request anything.

GR,

The situation you are decribing is well known in the UK. Many people there have never paid a penny of tax but claim all the benefits they are entitled to. TCs fall into this category by default and it is the entitlement that you should object to not the TCs benefitting from it. It is their RoC as much as yours and they are only following the rules. If you don't like the rules, get them changed, but dont blame the TCs. I often read posts decrying TCs for applying for RoC passports, but it is the passport of their RoC as much as it is yours.
The RoC belongs to all Cypriots, doesn't it?

The passports don’t worry me, but there’s an increasing number of us here who are starting to get pissed off that a relatively large number of people (non tax contributing TCs) are taking advantage of the system (bludging) while harboring the enemy! All I’m saying is… if you’re paying tax to the “TRNC” then don’t come here for free services and vice versa.

The resentment here is growing…