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Postby Malapapa » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:27 am

Viewpoint wrote:Time will prove us right, thats why Turkey will not open her ports unless the EU make good on their promise.


See what happens, erolz when you mislead the hoi polloi into believing the EU "promised" direct trade to the "TRNC"?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:31 am

Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Time will prove us right, thats why Turkey will not open her ports unless the EU make good on their promise.


See what happens, erolz when you mislead the hoi polloi into believing the EU "promised" direct trade to the "TRNC"?


Time and your good work in not finding a solution and who knows what will happen, the EU will not wait for you to solve the thorn you stuck in their side which is bleeding everyday.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:31 am

Viewpoint wrote:Time will prove us right, thats why Turkey will not open her ports unless the EU make good on their promise.

You mean unless the EU gives you the freedom you want which would of course violate her member! :roll:

It's not gonna happen...
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:34 am

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Time will prove us right, thats why Turkey will not open her ports unless the EU make good on their promise.

You mean unless the EU gives you the freedom you want which would of course violate her member! :roll:

It's not gonna happen...


Why your one sided membership a bleeding thorn wound in their side and continued non solution will only bring a relaxation of embargoes, the principles of the EU are equality for all which clearly the GCs are blocking and therefore violating.
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Postby erolz3 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:47 am

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The European Commission acts as the EU's executive arm and is responsible for initiating legislation and the day-to-day running of the EU. It is intended to act solely in the interest of the EU as a whole, as opposed to the Council which consists of leaders of member states who reflect national interests.


Its their job to create EU legislation. I think they understand the legal implications of their proposals.


EU Commissioners are politicians not lawyers and certainly not specialists in international law. Even Tony Blair, who was a lawyer had to take advice re: the Iraq war from the UK's attorney general.


I understand why you need to believe that the reason direct trade proposals by the EU comission are down to them being illegal and not down to the politics of the RoC putting national interest before EU common interest and your determination to do so is quite impressive in

The idea that the EU comission , a body who's very role within the EU is to be responsible for initating EU legislation, does not have competent legal experts that assist it when drafting proposals like the direct trade one is quite a feat of self delusion.

Malapapa wrote:I don't agree with bypassing international law for perceived political expediency. It causes all kinds of problems.


Well clearly the EU comission, a body of qualified people including legal experts, whose role it is as body includes creating legislation does not agree with you as a private indivdual with unkown expertiese that direct trade bypasses international law.

Myabe they are wrong and you are right about EU and international law, but somehow I doubt that.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:50 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Time will prove us right, thats why Turkey will not open her ports unless the EU make good on their promise.

You mean unless the EU gives you the freedom you want which would of course violate her member! :roll:

It's not gonna happen...


Why your one sided membership a bleeding thorn wound in their side and continued non solution will only bring a relaxation of embargoes, the principles of the EU are equality for all which clearly the GCs are blocking and therefore violating.

There is no incentive for the EU to violate one of her members in favor of a tiny community that along with Turkey was condemned by the UN for attempting to twist Cyprus’ territorial integrity!

Get a grip on reality…
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:53 am

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Time will prove us right, thats why Turkey will not open her ports unless the EU make good on their promise.

You mean unless the EU gives you the freedom you want which would of course violate her member! :roll:

It's not gonna happen...


Why your one sided membership a bleeding thorn wound in their side and continued non solution will only bring a relaxation of embargoes, the principles of the EU are equality for all which clearly the GCs are blocking and therefore violating.

There is no incentive for the EU to violate one of her members in favor of a tiny community that along with Turkey was condemned by the UN for attempting to twist Cyprus’ territorial integrity!

Get a grip on reality…


Size does not matter here, but if it did 70 million has far more weight than your population, the core issue here is a level playing field and with another deadlock and no hope of a solution we will move near permanent division meaing a relaxation of the isolation on the TCs therefore the TRNC.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:53 am

erolz3 wrote:I understand why you need to believe that the reason direct trade proposals by the EU comission are down to them being illegal and not down to the politics of the RoC...

:roll: There is plenty of international legislation to thwart direct trade...

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... icle16.htm
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:55 am

Where there is a will there is a way nothing is written in stone.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:56 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Time will prove us right, thats why Turkey will not open her ports unless the EU make good on their promise.

You mean unless the EU gives you the freedom you want which would of course violate her member! :roll:

It's not gonna happen...


Why your one sided membership a bleeding thorn wound in their side and continued non solution will only bring a relaxation of embargoes, the principles of the EU are equality for all which clearly the GCs are blocking and therefore violating.


Why don't you prove to us that there is an embargo and shut the fuck up. Silence will do your cause more good ... so far no one believes you, because you are everywhere! :roll: Embargo? No way! VP is free to rant and rave ....
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