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[DT.]

Erolz, please show me which body of the EU decided to trade with the occupied areas directly.

The Council sets policy, it then give the job of finding ways of meeting those policy objectives to the Comission. The commissions plans to meet this policy objective included an aid element that has been implemented and a trade element that has not.

You can and no doubt will argue forever as to why the comissions proposals for meeting the councils policy objective have not been implemented.

What you can not argue with is that comittments were made in writing by the hightest policy making body of the EU, agreed by all EU member states with regards to the TC community that support a settlement that the EU also support but was rejected by GC.

You can and no doubt will argue forever as to if the comitments made by the EU to the TC community have been met or not but you can argue they were not made.

The council said it was determined to end the isolation of the Turkish Cypriot community. Has it done all that it can to meet this comittment ? Most GC probably do not care and most TC probably feel it has not.

Erolz, save me the lesson I had enough of EU policy in uni. I just want to know where the Council said it was determined to end the isolation of the TC's.

And which Council said it? The Council of Europe? The European Council? or the Council of the European Union?

If it was the first, then don't waste your breath.

[Get Real!]

Erolz, please show me which body of the EU decided to trade with the occupied areas directly.

The Council sets policy, it then give the job of finding ways of meeting those policy objectives to the Comission. The commissions plans to meet this policy objective included an aid element that has been implemented and a trade element that has not.

You can and no doubt will argue forever as to why the comissions proposals for meeting the councils policy objective have not been implemented.

What you can not argue with is that comittments were made in writing by the hightest policy making body of the EU, agreed by all EU member states with regards to the TC community that support a settlement that the EU also support but was rejected by GC.

You can and no doubt will argue forever as to if the comitments made by the EU to the TC community have been met or not but you can argue they were not made.

The council said it was determined to end the isolation of the Turkish Cypriot community. Has it done all that it can to meet this comittment ? Most GC probably do not care and most TC probably feel it has not.

It doesn’t ring any bells. If you’re referring to something aside from the Green Line Regulation why don’t you post a credible link to this agreement? (no abandoned drafts by the way)

Oh btw, and do so in ONE OR TWO sentences thanks... not your bloody life story!

[erolz3]

Erolz, save me the lesson I had enough of EU policy in uni. I just want to know where the Council said it was determined to end the isolation of the TC's.

And which Council said it? The Council of Europe? The European Council? or the Council of the European Union?

If it was the first, then don't waste your breath.

All of the above has been answered and direct primary links given to the irrefutable proof.

However as you are a student I will save you the trouble of having to use your own brain at all.

I just want to know where the Council said it was determined to end the isolation of the TC's.

Luxembourg on 26 April 2004.

Or if you mean where in the document of this meeting can this comittment be seen than its on page 9 of the following document.

http://www.consilium.europa.eu/ueDocs/c ... /80142.pdf

And which Council said it? The Council of Europe? The European Council? or the Council of the European Union?

Well ignoring that I have already answered this and it can be answered with a little effort and reading the document itself , the answer is

Council of the European Union

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of ... pean_Union

The Council of the European Union (officially the Council and commonly referred to as the Council of Ministers) is the principal decision-making institution of the European Union (EU).[1] It is also called Consilium as a Latin-language compromise. This Council of the EU should not be confused with the European Council (an assembly of EU heads of state or government) or the Council of Europe (a non-EU organisation of 47 states).

All clear now ?

[Oracle]

'Mississippi Mud Pie', anyone?

[erolz3]

It doesn’t ring any bells. If you’re referring to something aside from the Green Line Regulation why don’t you post a credible link to this agreement? (no abandoned drafts by the way)

Oh btw, and do so in ONE OR TWO sentences thanks... not your bloody life story!

I will try once more GR.

The Council of the European Union agreed an EU policy that expressed its determination to end the isolation of the Turkish Cypriot community. The link to this is already provided, and was provided years ago btw.

The Council invited the Commission to bring forward comprehensive
proposals to this end.

The comission did this and the results can be seen here.

http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAct ... anguage=en

Part of its proposals were

It also proposed a regulation to facilitate direct trade from the the northern part of Cyprus.

These propsals of the EU comission drawn up at the request of the Council of the European Union to meet their policy objective have not been implemented.

That is the situation today.

The EU DID make written comittments to the TC community following their support for the Annan Plan and GC rejection of it.

The EU comission charged with drawing up proposals for how to achieve this policy DID propose direct trade from the North to the EU.

Those proposals by the EU comission have not been implemented. We can argue forever as to why but that they were made and have not been implemented is fact.

[Get Real!]

Erol, you must be referring to this paragraph…

The Council is determined to put an end to the isolation of the Turkish Cypriot community and to facilitate the reunification of Cyprus by encouraging the economic development of the Turkish Cypriot community. The Council invited the Commission to bring forward comprehensive proposals to this end, with particular emphasis on the economic integration of the island and on improving contact between the two communities and with the EU. The Council recommended that the 259 million euro already earmarked for the northern part of Cyprus in the event of a settlement now be used for this purpose.

… which later materialized as the Green Line Regulation!!!

[boulio]

exactly what else do they expect?free trade?

that was offered with the famagusta proposal but once again Turkey declined.

[Get Real!]

Oh Erol… where art thou?

Did you eat of the tree I said not to???

[erolz3]

Erol, you must be referring to this paragraph…

The Council is determined to put an end to the isolation of the Turkish Cypriot community and to facilitate the reunification of Cyprus by encouraging the economic development of the Turkish Cypriot community. The Council invited the Commission to bring forward comprehensive proposals to this end, with particular emphasis on the economic integration of the island and on improving contact between the two communities and with the EU. The Council recommended that the 259 million euro already earmarked for the northern part of Cyprus in the event of a settlement now be used for this purpose.

… which later materialized as the Green Line Regulation!!!

What they materialised as were what the Council asked for. Namely comprehensive proposals to the end of ending the isolation of the TC community. I have already provided the link to what they materialised as.

Some elements of these comission proposals were implemented, like those on aid and green line regulations and some were not like those on direct trade.

As to why the ones on direct trade were not implemented and still have not been implemented one can believe anything one likes.

[DT.]

However as you are a student I will save you the trouble of having to use your own brain at all.

Don't get stroppy mate, just because you're used to debating with a bunch of monkeys on the cy44 forum who never question any of your "facts."

Thankyou for providing the link, as you know this was the lead up to the Green Line regulation which is a policy the Government of Cyprus has been trying to implement for some time.

As with your sports "isolation" when TC's freely throw around the phrase "politics has no room in sports." They don't realise for a moment the hypocrisy of all this when they are given every chance of competing internationally via the official federations, but refuse due to....you guessed it..politics.

The EU cannot and never will implement a policy of direct trade with the occupation regime, how did you guys ever think otherwise?