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Postby B25 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:57 pm

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boulio wrote:y FRED can you please tell us how you came up with 35% seriouly id like to see your analysis of how you get to this number.

It’s a very clever Ottoman formula actually… he took his IQ, multiplied it by 3 and the divided by two!

(IQ x 3) / 2 = 35

Separating knowns from unknowns…

IQ x 3 = 35 x 2

IQ = (35 x 2) / 3

IQ = 23.33 :wink:


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hold on maybe he made a mistake and put the decimal point in the wrong place and it shloud read 2.3%, ha ha , DT heres your long waited answer!
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Postby B25 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:58 pm

Get Real! wrote:
boulio wrote:y FRED can you please tell us how you came up with 35% seriouly id like to see your analysis of how you get to this number.

It’s a very clever Ottoman formula actually… he took his IQ, multiplied it by 3 and the divided by two!

(IQ x 3) / 2 = 35

Separating knowns from unknowns…

IQ x 3 = 35 x 2

IQ = (35 x 2) / 3

IQ = 23.33 :wink:


Classic :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

hold on maybe he made a mistake and put the decimal point in the wrong place and it shloud read 2.3%, ha ha , DT heres your long waited answer!
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Postby B25 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:59 pm

Get Real! wrote:
boulio wrote:y FRED can you please tell us how you came up with 35% seriouly id like to see your analysis of how you get to this number.

It’s a very clever Ottoman formula actually… he took his IQ, multiplied it by 3 and the divided by two!

(IQ x 3) / 2 = 35

Separating knowns from unknowns…

IQ x 3 = 35 x 2

IQ = (35 x 2) / 3

IQ = 23.33 :wink:

Classic :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

hold on maybe he made a mistake and put the decimal point in the wrong place and it shloud read 2.3%, ha ha , DT heres your long waited answer!
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Postby B25 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:00 pm

Get Real! wrote:
boulio wrote:y FRED can you please tell us how you came up with 35% seriouly id like to see your analysis of how you get to this number.

It’s a very clever Ottoman formula actually… he took his IQ, multiplied it by 3 and the divided by two!

(IQ x 3) / 2 = 35

Separating knowns from unknowns…

IQ x 3 = 35 x 2

IQ = (35 x 2) / 3

IQ = 23.33 :wink:

Classic :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

hold on maybe he made a mistake and put the decimal point in the wrong place and it shloud read 2.3%, ha ha , DT heres your long waited answer!
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Postby B25 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:03 pm

Get Real! wrote:
boulio wrote:y FRED can you please tell us how you came up with 35% seriouly id like to see your analysis of how you get to this number.

It’s a very clever Ottoman formula actually… he took his IQ, multiplied it by 3 and the divided by two!

(IQ x 3) / 2 = 35

Separating knowns from unknowns…

IQ x 3 = 35 x 2

IQ = (35 x 2) / 3

IQ = 23.33 :wink:


Classic :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

hold on maybe he made a mistake and put the decimal point in the wrong place and it shloud read 2.3%, ha ha , DT heres your long waited answer!
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Postby YFred » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:04 pm

boulio wrote:y FRED can you please tell us how you came up with 35% seriouly id like to see your analysis of how you get to this number.

Y not. If you can pick a number from the air, so can I. That is why the negotiations are taking such a long time. If it was that easy would it take 45 years an counting.

The figures provided by the roc are not woth the paper it's written. So stop having kittens over minor detail.
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Postby georgios100 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:05 pm

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georgios100 wrote:I would like to clarify a few points.

There is going to be a line drawn on the ground. This line is of a great debate now but on the long term (50 years), it won't mean much. Remember, compensation should satisfy private land owners (if the line affects them). As far as the "crown land", which is the biggest piece of Cyprus land, will belong to the federal government as a whole. That means both communities will own the whole country together (no lines here). Canada has many lines drawn on the ground dividing the provinces which are independent from each other. All these lines form one country, Canada. Many minorities exist here, too many to mention. All are tolerated and accommodated as they should be. Originally, English and French fought for years about land, language and state. There was winners and loosers but in the end there was only one, Canada. Cyprus has a lot to learn from this example. History has proven that when compromise is achieved there can be only winners. Division, as it stands now in Cyprus, can only produce degrees of losses not winnings.

And something else to consider:

Quote from another poster.
"Think how much each party will save in defense spending. Think of freedom of businesses and resources contracts, freedom of shipping lanes for Cyprus to Turkey, think of added tourism across the island, improved economies of scale from utilities, real partnerships away from the forced situation that GC supporters espouse is supposedly working today etc. etc. etc. These can really only be achieved in a win-win scenario - not the winner takes all scenario. "

I agree 100%. This is the kind of thinking required. Positive. Proposals like this one are hard to find in this forum. All I read is arguments, fighting with words, swearing etc, totally counter productive.

A friendly reminder to the mods. Do you job. Keep it respectable, Delete the inflammatory comments and bad language, thanks.

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If you're willing to give up your land in the north for compensation then go right ahead. Where do you get the balls though to assume that the rest of the Cypriots that come from the occupied areas will be happy with compensation?


Everything in this world has a price, so does land. Compensation will satisfy some displaced Cypriots but not all, you are right. There is going to be some degree of unhappiness out there, based on "I want my land back no matter how much money if offered". Pure sentimental reasons. Fairness is a relative word here. Nothing is perfect. But we like to say we have democracy in Cyprus. So let's exercise democracy. Let the people vote and be heard. Property issue included in the vote. The majority decision will stand.

When searching for a solution we should put on the table proposals that may "fly". Displaying "balls" got us nowhere so far, only boldness will.

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Postby B25 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:13 pm

georgios100 wrote:
DT. wrote:
georgios100 wrote:I would like to clarify a few points.

There is going to be a line drawn on the ground. This line is of a great debate now but on the long term (50 years), it won't mean much. Remember, compensation should satisfy private land owners (if the line affects them). As far as the "crown land", which is the biggest piece of Cyprus land, will belong to the federal government as a whole. That means both communities will own the whole country together (no lines here). Canada has many lines drawn on the ground dividing the provinces which are independent from each other. All these lines form one country, Canada. Many minorities exist here, too many to mention. All are tolerated and accommodated as they should be. Originally, English and French fought for years about land, language and state. There was winners and loosers but in the end there was only one, Canada. Cyprus has a lot to learn from this example. History has proven that when compromise is achieved there can be only winners. Division, as it stands now in Cyprus, can only produce degrees of losses not winnings.

And something else to consider:

Quote from another poster.
"Think how much each party will save in defense spending. Think of freedom of businesses and resources contracts, freedom of shipping lanes for Cyprus to Turkey, think of added tourism across the island, improved economies of scale from utilities, real partnerships away from the forced situation that GC supporters espouse is supposedly working today etc. etc. etc. These can really only be achieved in a win-win scenario - not the winner takes all scenario. "

I agree 100%. This is the kind of thinking required. Positive. Proposals like this one are hard to find in this forum. All I read is arguments, fighting with words, swearing etc, totally counter productive.

A friendly reminder to the mods. Do you job. Keep it respectable, Delete the inflammatory comments and bad language, thanks.

Georgios100


If you're willing to give up your land in the north for compensation then go right ahead. Where do you get the balls though to assume that the rest of the Cypriots that come from the occupied areas will be happy with compensation?


Everything in this world has a price, so does land. Compensation will satisfy some displaced Cypriots but not all, you are right. There is going to be some degree of unhappiness out there, based on "I want my land back no matter how much money if offered". Pure sentimental reasons. Fairness is a relative word here. Nothing is perfect. But we like to say we have democracy in Cyprus. So let's exercise democracy. Let the people vote and be heard. Property issue included in the vote. The majority decision will stand.

When searching for a solution we should put on the table proposals that may "fly". Displaying "balls" got us nowhere so far, only boldness will.

Georgios100


Thats easy to say from someone who has ditched his country to live abroad and then want the compensation to get on with his sad little life away. All the while the GCs who are here and longing for their ancestral homes have to put it to a vote.

Lets all vote democratically to take your sister/mother/wife and majority rules, yes??? Somethings are more than just a vote George, don't play silly beggars with peoples feelings just because you want to be 'Alright'

P.S. No offence intended, just an example to illustare what you propose.
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Postby boulio » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:13 pm

Y not. If you can pick a number from the air, so can I. That is why the negotiations are taking such a long time. If it was that easy would it take 45 years an counting.

The figures provided by the roc are not woth the paper it's written. So stop having kittens over minor detail.


the figures by the roc and based on the colonial british land registry.im still waiting for your numbers.
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Postby YFred » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:14 pm

boulio wrote:
Y not. If you can pick a number from the air, so can I. That is why the negotiations are taking such a long time. If it was that easy would it take 45 years an counting.

The figures provided by the roc are not woth the paper it's written. So stop having kittens over minor detail.


the figures by the roc and based on the colonial british land registry.im still waiting for your numbers.

I am going to use them for lottery next week so you can't have them.
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