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What Ankara's Apartheid of Cyprus is doing to Humanity ...

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Postby aussieturk » Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:40 am

How about the mass graves found, how about neighbours turning on to the TC's and shooting them. There is plenty of evidence dickhead, otherwise Turkey would not have used its powers under the constitution to protect the TC's.

Here is something for you to think about:

"In the meantime, Nikos Sampson was declared provisional president of the new government. 'Had Turkey not intervened,' Sampson told the Greek newspaper, Eleftherotipia, on 26.02.81, 'I would not only have proclaimed Enosis but I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus as well"

wyoming cowboy wrote:And you are saying based on an assumption with no evidence Turkey invades a defenseless Cyprus to save the Tc who were not in danger but assumed to be, because there were no direct threats made against the Tc ..by the coupist, and the invasion by Turkey is justified on these grounds, and you call me stupid, where is your argumen?Its obvious to the whole world that you have no argument you need to go back to the drawing board YFRED.....YeeHaaa
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wyoming cowboy wrote:And Yfred you basically agreed that the TC and Gc's were living together throughout Cyprus, working and doing business together , but you continue with your lame argument that the coup would have brought a massacre against the TC' s.......again where is your evidence and justification....?????
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wyoming cowboy wrote:What evidence do you have for an "impending slaughter" of the tc's? There were no ethnic conflicts between the years of 67-74, Turk cyp villages throughout cyprus were living in relative harmony with their greek cyp compatriots, the streets of nicosia were filled with both ethnic groups working together and doing business, who or what segragated the Tc from the rest of cyprus? your answer is the Turkish army....

So you reckon that a GC junta who came to power killing their own kind had no intention of hurting TCs. Do you have any other jokes or are you a one joke cowboy, Yiii haaaaa.

What are you stupid or what. What are you expecting to find evidence of their intentions?
Do you think they wrote it down and filed it under the heading " What we are about to do to the TCs"
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Postby wyoming cowboy » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:30 am

ASSTurk, you dont know what you are talking about, i lived in Cyprus pre 74 and we had Tc living in the village next to mine, they worked, traded and socialized with GC...the villages that had problems were mostly solved..there were no intercommunal problems recorded from 67-preinvasion 1974...There was no justification for Turkey to invade, and illegally occuppy Cyprus and ethnically cleanse Gc citizens from their ancestral homes....
aussieturk wrote:How about the mass graves found, how about neighbours turning on to the TC's and shooting them. There is plenty of evidence dickhead, otherwise Turkey would not have used its powers under the constitution to protect the TC's.

Here is something for you to think about:

"In the meantime, Nikos Sampson was declared provisional president of the new government. 'Had Turkey not intervened,' Sampson told the Greek newspaper, Eleftherotipia, on 26.02.81, 'I would not only have proclaimed Enosis but I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus as well"

wyoming cowboy wrote:And you are saying based on an assumption with no evidence Turkey invades a defenseless Cyprus to save the Tc who were not in danger but assumed to be, because there were no direct threats made against the Tc ..by the coupist, and the invasion by Turkey is justified on these grounds, and you call me stupid, where is your argumen?Its obvious to the whole world that you have no argument you need to go back to the drawing board YFRED.....YeeHaaa
YFred wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:And Yfred you basically agreed that the TC and Gc's were living together throughout Cyprus, working and doing business together , but you continue with your lame argument that the coup would have brought a massacre against the TC' s.......again where is your evidence and justification....?????
YFred wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:What evidence do you have for an "impending slaughter" of the tc's? There were no ethnic conflicts between the years of 67-74, Turk cyp villages throughout cyprus were living in relative harmony with their greek cyp compatriots, the streets of nicosia were filled with both ethnic groups working together and doing business, who or what segragated the Tc from the rest of cyprus? your answer is the Turkish army....

So you reckon that a GC junta who came to power killing their own kind had no intention of hurting TCs. Do you have any other jokes or are you a one joke cowboy, Yiii haaaaa.

What are you stupid or what. What are you expecting to find evidence of their intentions?
Do you think they wrote it down and filed it under the heading " What we are about to do to the TCs"
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Postby Gasman » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:20 pm

But what is all this? I have just been informed on another thread that GCs and TCs lived together happily and could do so again. That it was only the Politicians who caused any problems.
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Postby YFred » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:28 pm

Gasman wrote:But what is all this? I have just been informed on another thread that GCs and TCs lived together happily and could do so again. That it was only the Politicians who caused any problems.

Your interpretation is not right. They started the problem, but now the population lost trust. And while you are suffocating them with love, you ain't gon a get it back are you?
Enjoy your suffocation, it will not last much longer.
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Postby aussieturk » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:17 am

Believe what you will, hide your head in the sand.

How about I send you a list of TC's missing since the 60's, yes over 600? Yes I know there is a longer list of GC's missing as well. These are facts and neither one of us should be proud of. Just because your village was wonderful, there are many villages that weren't.

Pre 1974, TC's were treated like second class citizens, they were bullied and harassed (not by everyone, but enough to cause migration to other countries). TC's always felt they were not secure in their own country, they were treated as not Cypriots but as Turks.


wyoming cowboy wrote:AussieTurk, you dont know what you are talking about, i lived in Cyprus pre 74 and we had Tc living in the village next to mine, they worked, traded and socialized with GC...the villages that had problems were mostly solved..there were no intercommunal problems recorded from 67-preinvasion 1974...There was no justification for Turkey to invade, and illegally occuppy Cyprus and ethnically cleanse Gc citizens from their ancestral homes....
aussieturk wrote:How about the mass graves found, how about neighbours turning on to the TC's and shooting them. There is plenty of evidence dickhead, otherwise Turkey would not have used its powers under the constitution to protect the TC's.

Here is something for you to think about:

"In the meantime, Nikos Sampson was declared provisional president of the new government. 'Had Turkey not intervened,' Sampson told the Greek newspaper, Eleftherotipia, on 26.02.81, 'I would not only have proclaimed Enosis but I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus as well"

wyoming cowboy wrote:And you are saying based on an assumption with no evidence Turkey invades a defenseless Cyprus to save the Tc who were not in danger but assumed to be, because there were no direct threats made against the Tc ..by the coupist, and the invasion by Turkey is justified on these grounds, and you call me stupid, where is your argumen?Its obvious to the whole world that you have no argument you need to go back to the drawing board YFRED.....YeeHaaa
YFred wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:And Yfred you basically agreed that the TC and Gc's were living together throughout Cyprus, working and doing business together , but you continue with your lame argument that the coup would have brought a massacre against the TC' s.......again where is your evidence and justification....?????
YFred wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:What evidence do you have for an "impending slaughter" of the tc's? There were no ethnic conflicts between the years of 67-74, Turk cyp villages throughout cyprus were living in relative harmony with their greek cyp compatriots, the streets of nicosia were filled with both ethnic groups working together and doing business, who or what segragated the Tc from the rest of cyprus? your answer is the Turkish army....

So you reckon that a GC junta who came to power killing their own kind had no intention of hurting TCs. Do you have any other jokes or are you a one joke cowboy, Yiii haaaaa.

What are you stupid or what. What are you expecting to find evidence of their intentions?
Do you think they wrote it down and filed it under the heading " What we are about to do to the TCs"
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Postby Gasman » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:14 am

Pre 1974, TC's were treated like second class citizens, they were bullied and harassed (not by everyone, but enough to cause migration to other countries). TC's always felt they were not secure in their own country, they were treated as not Cypriots but as Turks.


Going by the views expressed here in this forum, I believe that, if 'reunification' were, by some miracle, to come about, that is what would probably happen again.

A lot of the hatred and discrimination seems to have been turned towards the Turks and Turkish Army since 1974. If the Turkish Army were to leave and TCs and GCs were back together again, I cannot see a Cyprus where the sort of GCs who hold the more extreme views expressed on this forum would just welcome them as their equals. Especially those who had married Turkish partners and the children of those marriages.

Lots of GCs I know hate and despise ALL and anything 'Arabic', they won't employ them (would rather employ a less qualified or competent East European) and seem to lump them all together whether they are from Palestine, Iraq, Lebanon or wherever. They usually refer to them as just 'immigrants' (and that does make me smile when they say that to me - when I point out that I am an immigrant too, they quickly are at pains to assure me that that 'is different' lol!) Mind you, I know plenty of ex pat Brits in Cyprus who refer to all incomers (other than Brits) as 'immigrants' in the same tone - one of disgust.
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