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[wyoming cowboy]

Not involved in the fighting wasntit the area where illegal weapons were being smuggled into the Republic in order to create a revolution?

YFred ....Y, do you continue with the lame excuse thats been disproven over and over... On a false assumption that the Tc's were going to be annihilated, Turkey invades Cyprus....You disregard all reasons for the the coup in Cyprus, you disregard the geopolitical situation at the time, you disregard everything and make the assumption that the tc's were going to be annihilated.....your argument holds no water buddy come up with something that makes sense...YeeHah....how many tc were killed during the coup, what threats were made against the tc's who gave the green light for the coup and the invasion...how come there was no coup and invasion in the 60's, ?????? these are questions you need to answer YFred, all of a sudden you make the assertion that tc's were going to be massacred.....i can also say that ROC has to obtain nuclear weapons and strike first against Turkey .....

What evidence do you have for an "impending slaughter" of the tc's? There were no ethnic conflicts between the years of 67-74, Turk cyp villages throughout cyprus were living in relative harmony with their greek cyp compatriots, the streets of nicosia were filled with both ethnic groups working together and doing business, who or what segragated the Tc from the rest of cyprus? your answer is the Turkish army....

So you reckon that a GC junta who came to power killing their own kind had no intention of hurting TCs. Do you have any other jokes or are you a one joke cowboy, Yiii haaaaa.

Listen, Lurucina did not attack anybody in 74. Turks invaded from the north and GC NG lined up their tanks to flatten the village with 4500 people in it. It was TAF who came to their rescue. I have all the proof I need to know the real intention of the coup leaders. Why would anybody attack a village that was not involved in the fighting. You really have to wake up from this god damn deep slumber you've been in for 60 years to realities. Before Bosnia, I could understand you not believeing what the TCs say, but Bosnia removed all doubt as to what this GO mongrel was capable of, FFS wake up.

[YFred]

Not involved in the fighting wasntit the area where illegal weapons were being smuggled into the Republic in order to create a revolution?

YFred ....Y, do you continue with the lame excuse thats been disproven over and over... On a false assumption that the Tc's were going to be annihilated, Turkey invades Cyprus....You disregard all reasons for the the coup in Cyprus, you disregard the geopolitical situation at the time, you disregard everything and make the assumption that the tc's were going to be annihilated.....your argument holds no water buddy come up with something that makes sense...YeeHah....how many tc were killed during the coup, what threats were made against the tc's who gave the green light for the coup and the invasion...how come there was no coup and invasion in the 60's, ?????? these are questions you need to answer YFred, all of a sudden you make the assertion that tc's were going to be massacred.....i can also say that ROC has to obtain nuclear weapons and strike first against Turkey .....

What evidence do you have for an "impending slaughter" of the tc's? There were no ethnic conflicts between the years of 67-74, Turk cyp villages throughout cyprus were living in relative harmony with their greek cyp compatriots, the streets of nicosia were filled with both ethnic groups working together and doing business, who or what segragated the Tc from the rest of cyprus? your answer is the Turkish army....

So you reckon that a GC junta who came to power killing their own kind had no intention of hurting TCs. Do you have any other jokes or are you a one joke cowboy, Yiii haaaaa.

Listen, Lurucina did not attack anybody in 74. Turks invaded from the north and GC NG lined up their tanks to flatten the village with 4500 people in it. It was TAF who came to their rescue. I have all the proof I need to know the real intention of the coup leaders. Why would anybody attack a village that was not involved in the fighting. You really have to wake up from this god damn deep slumber you've been in for 60 years to realities. Before Bosnia, I could understand you not believeing what the TCs say, but Bosnia removed all doubt as to what this GO mongrel was capable of, FFS wake up.

Hardly old boy. You are mixing it with Kochina. I can assure you the only arms in Lurucina were for peaceful and defensive purposes, what?

[free_cyprus]

As people of the free world celebrate, today, the 20th anniversary of the release of Nelson Mandela from the clutches of the foreigners that practiced Apartheid in his native land; we, the Greek Cypriots are forced to remember, again, that we are the last remaining group of people for whom Apartheid is still forced upon.

How does Turkey's racist, forceful expulsion of GCs, and militarily imposed segregation on each and every Greek Cypriot, by virtue of his race, affect you in the personal and wider moral sense?

Greek or not Greek, we are first Humans and as such affected by the behaviour of all Humans. You didn't have to be Black to support Mandela. You don't have to be Greek to support the GCs who are discriminated today, by Ankara's policies. These policies affect ALL of us, morally and ethically.

Are Turks* a step backward for Humanity?

(Turks* = those who support Ankara; c.f. to white Supremacists of South Africa)

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh the turks the greeks and the british. there is no unity in cyprus there has never been any unity in cyprus and the way things are going there will never be unity in cyprus.

cyprus people are guilty of everything thats been talked about in this forum regarding outsiders such as turks, greeks, british, ect.

cyprots have abandoned thier identity and become turks and greeks on the technicality that speak their languege practise their riligions and take their names

anyone who calims to be turkish or greek and they are cypriots
in my eyes they are traitors, in my eyes they commit the biggest lies to come out of cyprus,

above it says we are all humans first then why do you cypriots hold onto the brainwashed notion that you are greeks and turks . does it make you better person od does it just inflame the already racism that goes on in cyprus, andf this racism is paracticed outside of cyprus to whrever theres cypriots.

this is not fantasy this is a fact and unfortunatly it has no ending and it will have no ending unless the mindset is changed and we think as one and we think as cypriots and we are united in our couse to be independent of turkey greece and britain, everythign we have in cyprus is imported by outsiders to keep control of cyprus people and when we break down everyting to the seed what we have is cypriots who are slaves to outside powers

and by saying your greeks and turks it gives life to that controling powers from outside

[wyoming cowboy]

you got me on that one, but you do admit tht weapons were being brought in through Kochina....why?

Not involved in the fighting wasntit the area where illegal weapons were being smuggled into the Republic in order to create a revolution?

YFred ....Y, do you continue with the lame excuse thats been disproven over and over... On a false assumption that the Tc's were going to be annihilated, Turkey invades Cyprus....You disregard all reasons for the the coup in Cyprus, you disregard the geopolitical situation at the time, you disregard everything and make the assumption that the tc's were going to be annihilated.....your argument holds no water buddy come up with something that makes sense...YeeHah....how many tc were killed during the coup, what threats were made against the tc's who gave the green light for the coup and the invasion...how come there was no coup and invasion in the 60's, ?????? these are questions you need to answer YFred, all of a sudden you make the assertion that tc's were going to be massacred.....i can also say that ROC has to obtain nuclear weapons and strike first against Turkey .....

What evidence do you have for an "impending slaughter" of the tc's? There were no ethnic conflicts between the years of 67-74, Turk cyp villages throughout cyprus were living in relative harmony with their greek cyp compatriots, the streets of nicosia were filled with both ethnic groups working together and doing business, who or what segragated the Tc from the rest of cyprus? your answer is the Turkish army....

So you reckon that a GC junta who came to power killing their own kind had no intention of hurting TCs. Do you have any other jokes or are you a one joke cowboy, Yiii haaaaa.

Listen, Lurucina did not attack anybody in 74. Turks invaded from the north and GC NG lined up their tanks to flatten the village with 4500 people in it. It was TAF who came to their rescue. I have all the proof I need to know the real intention of the coup leaders. Why would anybody attack a village that was not involved in the fighting. You really have to wake up from this god damn deep slumber you've been in for 60 years to realities. Before Bosnia, I could understand you not believeing what the TCs say, but Bosnia removed all doubt as to what this GO mongrel was capable of, FFS wake up.

Hardly old boy. You are mixing it with Kochina. I can assure you the only arms in Lurucina were for peaceful and defensive purposes, what?

[EPSILON]

What!

Is no one going to wish Nelson Mandela a Happy 20th Anniversary?

Or, are some people wishing he had never been released?

Yes he would never be released, because after this happen ,S. Africa is destroyed- You know some heroes -like ours (Polytechnio), are eating our foot!!for centuries - like some 1821 heroes families in Greece who are still destroying the country- to be a National heore in every place in earth is a very diificult task and Mandella was not one of them.!!!!

[Oracle]

What!

Is no one going to wish Nelson Mandela a Happy 20th Anniversary?

Or, are some people wishing he had never been released?

Yes he would never be released, because after this happen ,S. Africa is destroyed- You know some heroes -like ours (Polytechnio), are eating our foot!!for centuries - like some 1821 heroes families in Greece who are still destroying the country- to be a National heore in every place in earth is a very diificult task and Mandella was not one of them.!!!!

EPSILON, I'm really sorry you feel that way because this rush to condemn SA, as it's trying to find its feet after years of oppression, is not helpful. SA needs support and encouragement.

And who was so well off under Apartheid, anyway? Only a mere tiny minority, whilst the majority have been suffering for hundreds of years! It takes a lot of time to reverse all those years of hardship.

It's another parallel to Cyprus, which was only allowed three years of relative freedom to find its feet, before the greedy minority, with the help of further foreigners, deprived it of its fundamental rights, once again. Let's not let that happen to SA as well.

[YFred]

you got me on that one, but you do admit tht weapons were being brought in through Kochina....why?

Not involved in the fighting wasntit the area where illegal weapons were being smuggled into the Republic in order to create a revolution?

YFred ....Y, do you continue with the lame excuse thats been disproven over and over... On a false assumption that the Tc's were going to be annihilated, Turkey invades Cyprus....You disregard all reasons for the the coup in Cyprus, you disregard the geopolitical situation at the time, you disregard everything and make the assumption that the tc's were going to be annihilated.....your argument holds no water buddy come up with something that makes sense...YeeHah....how many tc were killed during the coup, what threats were made against the tc's who gave the green light for the coup and the invasion...how come there was no coup and invasion in the 60's, ?????? these are questions you need to answer YFred, all of a sudden you make the assertion that tc's were going to be massacred.....i can also say that ROC has to obtain nuclear weapons and strike first against Turkey .....

What evidence do you have for an "impending slaughter" of the tc's? There were no ethnic conflicts between the years of 67-74, Turk cyp villages throughout cyprus were living in relative harmony with their greek cyp compatriots, the streets of nicosia were filled with both ethnic groups working together and doing business, who or what segragated the Tc from the rest of cyprus? your answer is the Turkish army....

So you reckon that a GC junta who came to power killing their own kind had no intention of hurting TCs. Do you have any other jokes or are you a one joke cowboy, Yiii haaaaa.

Listen, Lurucina did not attack anybody in 74. Turks invaded from the north and GC NG lined up their tanks to flatten the village with 4500 people in it. It was TAF who came to their rescue. I have all the proof I need to know the real intention of the coup leaders. Why would anybody attack a village that was not involved in the fighting. You really have to wake up from this god damn deep slumber you've been in for 60 years to realities. Before Bosnia, I could understand you not believeing what the TCs say, but Bosnia removed all doubt as to what this GO mongrel was capable of, FFS wake up.

Hardly old boy. You are mixing it with Kochina. I can assure you the only arms in Lurucina were for peaceful and defensive purposes, what?

With Akritas plan in operation how else were we going to defend ourselves. Please stop this pretence that there was no plan.

[wyoming cowboy]

Whether there was or was not a paper called the Akritas plan, found on someone in 1966, is not the issue for the problem on Cyprus...The real issue is that the Tc signed an agreement in 1960...which established theRepublic of Cyprus, for four full years the Republic functioned fairly efficiently 1960,1961,1962,1963, ....
the agreement signed by the tc was abrogated therefore with an Akritas or without an Akritas...the results of the 60's would have been the same....In a democracy the minority cannot usurp the rights of the majority....Both sides have to swallow some bitter pills to end this the Gc will give up some of their lands, and the Tc have to accept that the Gc are the majority and they are a minority....otherwise the Great powers are going to stick their fingers on Cyprus again and many of us will end up like many of our ancestors have.....

you got me on that one, but you do admit tht weapons were being brought in through Kochina....why?

Not involved in the fighting wasntit the area where illegal weapons were being smuggled into the Republic in order to create a revolution?

YFred ....Y, do you continue with the lame excuse thats been disproven over and over... On a false assumption that the Tc's were going to be annihilated, Turkey invades Cyprus....You disregard all reasons for the the coup in Cyprus, you disregard the geopolitical situation at the time, you disregard everything and make the assumption that the tc's were going to be annihilated.....your argument holds no water buddy come up with something that makes sense...YeeHah....how many tc were killed during the coup, what threats were made against the tc's who gave the green light for the coup and the invasion...how come there was no coup and invasion in the 60's, ?????? these are questions you need to answer YFred, all of a sudden you make the assertion that tc's were going to be massacred.....i can also say that ROC has to obtain nuclear weapons and strike first against Turkey .....

What evidence do you have for an "impending slaughter" of the tc's? There were no ethnic conflicts between the years of 67-74, Turk cyp villages throughout cyprus were living in relative harmony with their greek cyp compatriots, the streets of nicosia were filled with both ethnic groups working together and doing business, who or what segragated the Tc from the rest of cyprus? your answer is the Turkish army....

So you reckon that a GC junta who came to power killing their own kind had no intention of hurting TCs. Do you have any other jokes or are you a one joke cowboy, Yiii haaaaa.

Listen, Lurucina did not attack anybody in 74. Turks invaded from the north and GC NG lined up their tanks to flatten the village with 4500 people in it. It was TAF who came to their rescue. I have all the proof I need to know the real intention of the coup leaders. Why would anybody attack a village that was not involved in the fighting. You really have to wake up from this god damn deep slumber you've been in for 60 years to realities. Before Bosnia, I could understand you not believeing what the TCs say, but Bosnia removed all doubt as to what this GO mongrel was capable of, FFS wake up.

Hardly old boy. You are mixing it with Kochina. I can assure you the only arms in Lurucina were for peaceful and defensive purposes, what?

With Akritas plan in operation how else were we going to defend ourselves. Please stop this pretence that there was no plan.

[Gasman]

Both sides have to swallow some bitter pills to end this the Gc will give up some of their lands, and the Tc have to accept that the Gc are the majority and they are a minority....otherwise the Great powers are going to stick their fingers on Cyprus again and many of us will end up like many of our ancestors have.....

That does seem a more likely outcome to me than some of the outcomes demanded by the more extreme GCs and TCs on the forum.

I imagine that some of the 'Great Powers' are completely fed up with the situation in Cyprus and are past caring much - just go through the motions and pay 'diplomatic' lip service to it whenever it rises to the surface.

I don't think comparisons with SA by the GCs, or, for that matter, comparisons with Kosovo by the TRNC supporters are meaningful or helpful. They seem to be made out of desperation.

[aussieturk]

How about the mass graves found, how about neighbours turning on to the TC's and shooting them. There is plenty of evidence dickhead, otherwise Turkey would not have usded its powers under the constitution to protect the TC's.

Here is something for you to think about:

"In the meantime, Nikos Sampson was declared provisional president of the new government. 'Had Turkey not intervened,' Sampson told the Greek newspaper, Eleftherotipia, on 26.02.81, 'I would not only have proclaimed Enosis but I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus as well"

And you are saying based on an assumption with no evidence Turkey invades a defenseless Cyprus to save the Tc who were not in danger but assumed to be, because there were no direct threats made against the Tc ..by the coupist, and the invasion by Turkey is justified on these grounds, and you call me stupid, where is your argumen?Its obvious to the whole world that you have no argument you need to go back to the drawing board YFRED.....YeeHaaa

And Yfred you basically agreed that the TC and Gc's were living together throughout Cyprus, working and doing business together , but you continue with your lame argument that the coup would have brought a massacre against the TC' s.......again where is your evidence and justification....?????

What evidence do you have for an "impending slaughter" of the tc's? There were no ethnic conflicts between the years of 67-74, Turk cyp villages throughout cyprus were living in relative harmony with their greek cyp compatriots, the streets of nicosia were filled with both ethnic groups working together and doing business, who or what segragated the Tc from the rest of cyprus? your answer is the Turkish army....

So you reckon that a GC junta who came to power killing their own kind had no intention of hurting TCs. Do you have any other jokes or are you a one joke cowboy, Yiii haaaaa.

What are you stupid or what. What are you expecting to find evidence of their intentions?
Do you think they wrote it down and filed it under the heading " What we are about to do to the TCs"