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[Oracle]

You can make an argument that the status quo established after 1974 by Turkey in Cyprus is aparthied but doing so brings no illumination to the reality of that staus quo is and how and why it came to exist and doing so is also an inherent insult to those who did live under aparthied.

I don't care for the list of "reasons" you propagate to try and justify Apartheid in Cyprus!


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[Oracle]

As people of the free world celebrate, today, the 20th anniversary of the release of Nelson Mandela from the clutches of the foreigners that practiced Apartheid in his native land; we, the Greek Cypriots are forced to remember, again, that we are the last remaining group of people for whom Apartheid is still forced upon.

How does Turkey's racist, forceful expulsion of GCs, and militarily imposed segregation on each and every Greek Cypriot, by virtue of his race, affect you in the personal and wider moral sense?

Greek or not Greek, we are first Humans and as such affected by the behaviour of all Humans. You didn't have to be Black to support Mandela. You don't have to be Greek to support the GCs who are discriminated today, by Ankara's policies. These policies affect ALL of us, morally and ethically.

Are Turks* a step backward for Humanity?

(Turks* = those who support Ankara; c.f. to white Supremacists of South Africa)

I urge anyone who has not seen the film, Invictus, to do so, and see how easily we can put so much inhumanity behind us, to forge a better future as one nation.

The only obstacle to that new beginning is the Turkish Army -- which has to depart and stop the mechanism by which Ankara administers Apartheid, within our ethnically cleansed country.

End the cycle of fear ....


Invictus

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll.
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.

William Ernest Henley

[wyoming cowboy]

A typical response from a Turk, 200,000, refugees uproated from their ancestral homes, Greek cyp churches desecrated murder torture mass executions and the Turk asks"What ethnic cleansing"?

The Turks are a step backward for humanity, whoever invented them was looking to create a race of people who choose to commit genocide, ethnic cleansing and religious contempt...The Turk ethnically cleanses Cyprus, and calls it a peace operation, it continuously bombards its population of the evilness of the Greek cyp...The truth is always buried in Turkey, what the Turks have not realized is that you cannot bury the truth.....

WTF

What cleansing has taken place? The GC's live on one side, the TC's on the other. There has been no violence against either for 36 years?

[paliometoxo]

there has been some small incidence

[YFred]

A typical response from a Turk, 200,000, refugees uproated from their ancestral homes, Greek cyp churches desecrated murder torture mass executions and the Turk asks"What ethnic cleansing"?

The Turks are a step backward for humanity, whoever invented them was looking to create a race of people who choose to commit genocide, ethnic cleansing and religious contempt...The Turk ethnically cleanses Cyprus, and calls it a peace operation, it continuously bombards its population of the evilness of the Greek cyp...The truth is always buried in Turkey, what the Turks have not realized is that you cannot bury the truth.....

WTF

What cleansing has taken place? The GC's live on one side, the TC's on the other. There has been no violence against either for 36 years?

Compared to the impending mass slaughter of 150000 TCs it must have seemed like a tea party!

[wyoming cowboy]

What evidence do you have for an "impending slaughter" of the tc's? There were no ethnic conflicts between the years of 67-74, Turk cyp villages throughout cyprus were living in relative harmony with their greek cyp compatriots, the streets of nicosia were filled with both ethnic groups working together and doing business, who or what segragated the Tc from the rest of cyprus? your answer is the Turkish army....

[YFred]

What evidence do you have for an "impending slaughter" of the tc's? There were no ethnic conflicts between the years of 67-74, Turk cyp villages throughout cyprus were living in relative harmony with their greek cyp compatriots, the streets of nicosia were filled with both ethnic groups working together and doing business, who or what segragated the Tc from the rest of cyprus? your answer is the Turkish army....

So you reckon that a GC junta who came to power killing their own kind had no intention of hurting TCs. Do you have any other jokes or are you a one joke cowboy, Yiii haaaaa.

[wyoming cowboy]

YFred ....Y, do you continue with the lame excuse thats been disproven over and over... On a false assumption that the Tc's were going to be annihilated, Turkey invades Cyprus....You disregard all reasons for the the coup in Cyprus, you disregard the geopolitical situation at the time, you disregard everything and make the assumption that the tc's were going to be annihilated.....your argument holds no water buddy come up with something that makes sense...YeeHah....how many tc were killed during the coup, what threats were made against the tc's who gave the green light for the coup and the invasion...how come there was no coup and invasion in the 60's, ?????? these are questions you need to answer YFred, all of a sudden you make the assertion that tc's were going to be massacred.....i can also say that ROC has to obtain nuclear weapons and strike first against Turkey .....

What evidence do you have for an "impending slaughter" of the tc's? There were no ethnic conflicts between the years of 67-74, Turk cyp villages throughout cyprus were living in relative harmony with their greek cyp compatriots, the streets of nicosia were filled with both ethnic groups working together and doing business, who or what segragated the Tc from the rest of cyprus? your answer is the Turkish army....

So you reckon that a GC junta who came to power killing their own kind had no intention of hurting TCs. Do you have any other jokes or are you a one joke cowboy, Yiii haaaaa.

[Get Real!]

There has been no violence against either for 36 years?

Casualties while serving on the demarcation line (1976..1996)

http://thecyprusproblem.100webspace.net ... morial.htm

And not to mention the Solomou and Isaak debacle, or DT’s father in law being murdered in the “TRNC” a couple of years ago!

So what do you now think? Should you cease from posting and do more reading, or shall I just continue exposing your ignorance because you enjoy it?

[YFred]

YFred ....Y, do you continue with the lame excuse thats been disproven over and over... On a false assumption that the Tc's were going to be annihilated, Turkey invades Cyprus....You disregard all reasons for the the coup in Cyprus, you disregard the geopolitical situation at the time, you disregard everything and make the assumption that the tc's were going to be annihilated.....your argument holds no water buddy come up with something that makes sense...YeeHah....how many tc were killed during the coup, what threats were made against the tc's who gave the green light for the coup and the invasion...how come there was no coup and invasion in the 60's, ?????? these are questions you need to answer YFred, all of a sudden you make the assertion that tc's were going to be massacred.....i can also say that ROC has to obtain nuclear weapons and strike first against Turkey .....

What evidence do you have for an "impending slaughter" of the tc's? There were no ethnic conflicts between the years of 67-74, Turk cyp villages throughout cyprus were living in relative harmony with their greek cyp compatriots, the streets of nicosia were filled with both ethnic groups working together and doing business, who or what segragated the Tc from the rest of cyprus? your answer is the Turkish army....

So you reckon that a GC junta who came to power killing their own kind had no intention of hurting TCs. Do you have any other jokes or are you a one joke cowboy, Yiii haaaaa.

Listen, Lurucina did not attack anybody in 74. Turks invaded from the north and GC NG lined up their tanks to flatten the village with 4500 people in it. It was TAF who came to their rescue. I have all the proof I need to know the real intention of the coup leaders. Why would anybody attack a village that was not involved in the fighting. You really have to wake up from this god damn deep slumber you've been in for 60 years to realities. Before Bosnia, I could understand you not believeing what the TCs say, but Bosnia removed all doubt as to what this GO mongrel was capable of, FFS wake up.