Cyprus-Forum.com

[DTA]

...although I do feel the Turkish intervension was justified,...

Hello, what’s this you started out with?

Er hello... you ignore my question. I asked where is my proposal for re-unification which you oppose... and you post this, you joker!!!

I ask you again where is my proposal for re-unification which you oppose?

dont be like Oracle I gave you more credit... dont avoid the question... you said that you oppose my 'idea' of re-unification... so post what my proposal is... unless of course you are a racist and a lie just like your so called oracle? Which in your credit you have already admitted to being... are you a fascist as well... how many GCs are Racist like you have admitted to being? if you are indicative (wow i spelt it right after half a bottle of JD) of GCs then why should the TC want a unification of cyprus without guarentees?

[B25]

We also know these "reservists" oath can you tell us about this ritual, they were armed for a reason and if faced with the dilema of killing to save their lives they like anyone elde may have or would kill.

Viewpoint, Im a Tc and 6 of my dads cousins were killed (their bodies have never been found), But if the guys in the picture were captured (they surrendered) and as is said they had nothing to do with killing innocent TCs, then we should not justify them being killed. We should offer a sincere apology and that should be it.

If they died in combat that is different, but if they were executed with no just reason then we should never try to excuse it, otherwise we would be just as bad as the sympathisers of the EOKA c**ts.

I agree with what you are saying if that is the case but how do we know or can be certain that they did not and would not kill anyone?

VP, irrescpective of whether they did kill or were going to kill, they were PoWs and as such should have been afforded the protection of the Geneva convention. A soilders job is to do just that in battle. Taking your logic, no PoW would be spare since the whole reason he is there is to kill.

DTA, you are being led by a Venomous Person and a dark alley of hatred. You sound like a very reasonable TC and I can now see you in a better light, but rules of engagement are just that. VP has no leg to stand on, he should have condemned their brutal murder unreservedly.

[Paphitis]

As this is a very personal issue for Paphitis I will extend my hand in apology for the loss of human life and wish that we could undo all the deaths but unfortunately we have no magic wand, Im truely sorry Paphitis.

Appreciate it VP!

Please let it be known that I don't demand any sympathy, just want people to respect these 5 POWs. Just want people to respect all the fallen in a dignified way.

I too apologise for any TC losses. I also wish I had a magic wand to bring back to life all the GCs and TCs that lost their lives, but that is not possible.

What is important now, is hat we leave all these atrocities in the past. Never forget, as we will then be doomed to relive the same hell. Just leave the past and look at a better future in a united a free Cyprus, where such things will never happen again! Only then will all these deaths not be in vain....

I'm certain this is what all those GC and TC fallen would want as well, because they don't want to see us relive the same pain and suffering.

[Get Real!]

...although I do feel the Turkish intervension was justified,...

Hello, what’s this you started out with?

Er hello... you ignore my question. I asked where is my proposal for re-unification which you oppose... and you post this, you joker!!!

I ask you again where is my proposal for re-unification which you oppose?

Are you not in support of a BBF or BBC? If not then why use a word like “unity” when in actual fact Cyprus is a clear case of an illegal invasion & occupation (UN), making the word “unification” most inappropriate and deceiving.

Which in your credit you have already admitted to being... are you a fascist as well... how many GCs are Racist like you have admitted to being?

If you’ve come here thinking that by calling complete strangers “fascists” you’ve got a good argument in a debating forum then you won’t last in here. Stick to posting when you’re sober…

[Viewpoint]

As this is a very personal issue for Paphitis I will extend my hand in apology for the loss of human life and wish that we could undo all the deaths but unfortunately we have no magic wand, Im truely sorry Paphitis.

Appreciate it VP!

Please let it be known that I don't demand any sympathy, just want people to respect these 5 POWs. Just want people to respect all the fallen in a dignified way.

I too apologise for any TC losses. I also wish I had a magic wand to bring back to life all the GCs and TCs that lost their lives, but that is not possible.

What is important now, is hat we leave all these atrocities in the past. Never forget, as we will then be doomed to relive the same hell. Just leave the past and look at a better future in a united a free Cyprus, where such things will never happen again! Only then will all these deaths not be in vain....

I'm certain this is what all those GC and TC fallen would want as well, because they don't want to see us relive the same pain and suffering.

Paphitis we understand your pain as ours is the same but what GCs are trying to do is force us into minority status in our own country, this as you probably know we will never accept even if it means fighting for our rights so my son or even yours (presuming you have one) could also be one of those POWS if we try to force the other side into a solution or position they will rebel against.

[Paphitis]

As this is a very personal issue for Paphitis I will extend my hand in apology for the loss of human life and wish that we could undo all the deaths but unfortunately we have no magic wand, Im truely sorry Paphitis.

Appreciate it VP!

Please let it be known that I don't demand any sympathy, just want people to respect these 5 POWs. Just want people to respect all the fallen in a dignified way.

I too apologise for any TC losses. I also wish I had a magic wand to bring back to life all the GCs and TCs that lost their lives, but that is not possible.

What is important now, is hat we leave all these atrocities in the past. Never forget, as we will then be doomed to relive the same hell. Just leave the past and look at a better future in a united a free Cyprus, where such things will never happen again! Only then will all these deaths not be in vain....

I'm certain this is what all those GC and TC fallen would want as well, because they don't want to see us relive the same pain and suffering.

Paphitis we understand your pain as ours is the same but what GCs are trying to do is force us into minority status in our own country, this as you probably know we will never accept even if it means fighting for our rights so my son or even yours (presuming you have one) could also be one of those POWS if we try to force the other side into a solution or position they will rebel against.

VP, the RoC is negotiating a BBF (Federation and not a Confederacy) with one single international identity, single citizenship, and single sovereignty. Both constituent states of the Federation will be of equal status, and the Turkish Constituent State, will have its own House of Representatives, Judiciary and armed police force.

The RoC has also compromised by proposing that 50,000 settlers will be allowed to stay on humanitarian grounds.

Federally, all Cypriot citizens will be represented proportionally, based on one man one vote.

We have already offered many more compromises, for little in return. The RoC is negotiating a solution based on segregation of both communities. It is official partition between the 2 Cypriot communities or a system of Apartheid (to use Oracle's emotive language).

What Turkey wants is to control the whole island by controlling the Cypriot EEZ, FIR, and immigration policies. This will see the GCs lose control of all of Cyprus and this can never be accepted by us, which is why we are doomed to have the current status quo for some time to come.

With all the good will extended by the GCs towards the TCs, then why not extend some good will in return by opening up Ammochostos to the 45,000 GC refugees. The area is just a wasteland now, so I don't see why you are clinging on to it. If the 45,000 GC refugees can return, then we only have another 115,000 GC refugees to worry about instead of 160,000.

Your side will also gain a substantial PR victory...