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[Paphitis]

Paphitis wilth all due respect to the deadand their famalies but do you know how many people these GC "heros" killed before being killed?

These 5 CNG POWs were just maintaining their position along the Famugusta highway. No TCs were ever attacked within their area.

I would be surprised if these 5 POWs even killed one single Turkish soldier.

What is certain is the fact that these men lacked comprehensive military training. They were village conscripts.

I say this because they had the 'audacity' (bless their souls) to fire upon heavy Turkish Armour. They gave away their position and they were captured. I have very little understanding for their military thinking, but I believe that they are much more of a human being than I can ever be, because I can never do what they did.

VP, I request that you join me in honoring their memory along with any TCs that are also not with us today.

If we are human, then we would maintain a dignified outlook on our losses and safeguard our children from meeting the same fate down the track.

Please forgive me for my emotion in this matter........

Look, I have had a long day. Some of the things I say, may not be what you are all use to. But I will be damned for all eternity if I allow the same things to occur to your children and mine.

[Paphitis]

Every year, after ANZAC Day and Remembrance Day, the Department of Veterans’ Affairs receives many letters asking about The Ode.

The issue raised by most letters is whether the last word of the second line should be ‘condemn’ or ‘contemn’. Contemn means to ‘despise or treat with disregard’, so both words fit the context.

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them.

Good night!

[Viewpoint]

Paphitis i agree with you 100percent sympathies and respect to their famalies but what i do not agree with is that they did not or would not kill if they had to, gcs should imo question those those that gave Turkey the excuse to unleash it army.

[Paphitis]

Paphitis i agree with you 100percent sympathies and respect to their famalies but what i do not agree with is that they did not or would not kill if they had to, gcs should imo question those those that gave Turkey the excuse to unleash it army.

VP, these chaps never caused any harm to any TCs!

I also doubt very much that they would have had it in them to kill a TC.

I can speak for my relative, who's brother owned the Petrolina (now part of the TA camp) in Kythrea.

He too was a CNG conscript, who was also captured in Palekythro. His lifie was spared, because he was well liked by the TCs. He gave the TCs credit for fuel. Some TC arrived at the location of his capture, and negotiated for his life with the Turkish Army. This also spared the life of another 4 men he was in company with. They were transported to Kyrenia and then taken to Adana.

All of these men were just reservists. They were never fanatics, and they never caused any harm to the TCs!

Please repeat after me VP:

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them.

[Viewpoint]

We also know these "reservists" oath can you tell us about this ritual, they were armed for a reason and if faced with the dilema of killing to save their lives they like anyone elde may have or would kill.

[denizaksulu]

Paphitis wilth all due respect to the deadand their famalies but do you know how many people these GC "heros" killed before being killed?

These 5 CNG POWs were just maintaining their position along the Famugusta highway. No TCs were ever attacked within their area.

I would be surprised if these 5 POWs even killed one single Turkish soldier.

What is certain is the fact that these men lacked comprehensive military training. They were village conscripts.

I say this because they had the 'audacity' (bless their souls) to fire upon heavy Turkish Armour. They gave away their position and they were captured. I have very little understanding for their military thinking, but I believe that they are much more of a human being than I can ever be, because I can never do what they did.

VP, I request that you join me in honoring their memory along with any TCs that are also not with us today.

If we are human, then we would maintain a dignified outlook on our losses and safeguard our children from meeting the same fate down the track.

Please forgive me for my emotion in this matter........

Look, I have had a long day. Some of the things I say, may not be what you are all use to. But I will be damned for all eternity if I allow the same things to occur to your children and mine.

I am with you on this Paphitis. No one can condemn anyone for trying to DEFEND their country. Whether they were TC or GC.

Also there are rules of engagement /rules of war which must be adhered to.

[DTA]

We also know these "reservists" oath can you tell us about this ritual, they were armed for a reason and if faced with the dilema of killing to save their lives they like anyone elde may have or would kill.

Viewpoint, Im a Tc and 6 of my dads cousins were killed (their bodies have never been found), But if the guys in the picture were captured (they surrendered) and as is said they had nothing to do with killing innocent TCs, then we should not justify them being killed. We should offer a sincere apology and that should be it.

If they died in combat that is different, but if they were executed with no just reason then we should never try to excuse it, otherwise we would be just as bad as the sympathisers of the EOKA c**ts.

[Viewpoint]

We also know these "reservists" oath can you tell us about this ritual, they were armed for a reason and if faced with the dilema of killing to save their lives they like anyone elde may have or would kill.

Viewpoint, Im a Tc and 6 of my dads cousins were killed (their bodies have never been found), But if the guys in the picture were captured (they surrendered) and as is said they had nothing to do with killing innocent TCs, then we should not justify them being killed. We should offer a sincere apology and that should be it.

If they died in combat that is different, but if they were executed with no just reason then we should never try to excuse it, otherwise we would be just as bad as the sympathisers of the EOKA c**ts.

I agree with what you are saying if that is the case but how do we know or can be certain that they did not and would not kill anyone?

[DTA]

We also know these "reservists" oath can you tell us about this ritual, they were armed for a reason and if faced with the dilema of killing to save their lives they like anyone elde may have or would kill.

Viewpoint, Im a Tc and 6 of my dads cousins were killed (their bodies have never been found), But if the guys in the picture were captured (they surrendered) and as is said they had nothing to do with killing innocent TCs, then we should not justify them being killed. We should offer a sincere apology and that should be it.

If they died in combat that is different, but if they were executed with no just reason then we should never try to excuse it, otherwise we would be just as bad as the sympathisers of the EOKA c**ts.

I agree with what you are saying if that is the case but how do we know or can be certain that they did not and would not kill anyone?

Ok I here what you are saying, and if you have evidence to say that they have then I will back you 100%. But if you have not then we need to take the only evidence that we have and that is of a poster on here that has told us of the personal connection with one of the people in that picture.

We need just to say sorry and let it be otherwise we will be taking the stance of poster like oracle GR and DT who claim that the TMT commited the crimes against TCs even with all the evidence that proves this is not true, who are so bias that they can no longer see the wood from the trees, we should strive to be above this, we should strive to be better.

[Viewpoint]

We also know these "reservists" oath can you tell us about this ritual, they were armed for a reason and if faced with the dilema of killing to save their lives they like anyone elde may have or would kill.

Viewpoint, Im a Tc and 6 of my dads cousins were killed (their bodies have never been found), But if the guys in the picture were captured (they surrendered) and as is said they had nothing to do with killing innocent TCs, then we should not justify them being killed. We should offer a sincere apology and that should be it.

If they died in combat that is different, but if they were executed with no just reason then we should never try to excuse it, otherwise we would be just as bad as the sympathisers of the EOKA c**ts.

I agree with what you are saying if that is the case but how do we know or can be certain that they did not and would not kill anyone?

Ok I here what you are saying, and if you have evidence to say that they have then I will back you 100%. But if you have not then we need to take the only evidence that we have and that is of a poster on here that has told us of the personal connection with one of the people in that picture.

We need just to say sorry and let it be otherwise we will be taking the stance of poster like oracle GR and DT who claim that the TMT commited the crimes against TCs even with all the evidence that proves this is not true, who are so bias that they can no longer see the wood from the trees, we should strive to be above this, we should strive to be better.

Striving to be better only leaves you exposed and vunerable to vultures like Oracle Piratis DT Malapapa and company, these are people who support that we forced ourselves into ghettos for the fun of it and killed our own purely for the shock value. You are free to expose yourself but I will defend my people to the bitter end, these people do not understand about forgiveness they want to dupe us into false security for the revenge seeking opportunity to take control of the whole island and force us into just another minority status in our own country.